can't backup downloaded file due to file's "security prope..

sstephy wrote:
> After I installed SP2 I noticed 'some' files cannot be copied to a
> CD. I get a pop-up message saying: "Confirm Stream Loss. File
> contains extra information attached to it that might be lost if you
> continue copying. The contents of the file will not be affected. Do
> you want to continue?" I've stopped here because I'm not sure what
> will happen to the file. This is happening to file types downloaded
> from the net, camera's photos or items right clicked and saved from
> the net. but NOT every every file.
> The properties box of the files say: "This file came from another
> computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer". There
> is a box that I can click --"UNNBLOCK" -- which allows me to copy the
> files to a disk.
>
> Is there a setting I can change to stop this from being added to
> files I am saving to my hard-drive so that I don't have to do this
> manually to every single file this 'block' has been added to?
> Thanks, Steph

It's a non-problem.
I got confused by that too. What it usually means, is that the Properties,
Summary tab for those files has information added by someone. Perhaps you
or someone else added notes in that tab to explain or remember something
about the use of the file. It's called an Alternate Data Stream and has
nothing to do with the operability of the file itself or anything else; it's
simply information ABOUT the file. CD format cannot support the ADS and
thus the data in the Summary data is not able to be copied.
You can however copy to other NTFS drives and that summary data will go
along with the file; it's an NTFS feature. CD formats are not NTFS.
The file itself will copy fine and nothing is wrong with anything. It's
just that the comments or whatever is written in the Summary tab cannot go
along with the file to the CD.
I see another poster gave you a link for learning about ADS; it's a decent
link.

HTH
Pop`

You answered my question so well. Thank you.

Just to confirm that what I'm doing is correct -- I can copy the files with
ADS in them to a CD and only the info in the summary tab will not copy,
right?

What's strange is that there is nothing in the Property's summary tabs.
There are read me files attached and in some photographs there is the basic
picture info, but that's it.

Do you think there is any reason to run one of the programs that remove the
ADS info added to the files?

One lingering question -- why didn't I notice this until 'after' I upgraded
to Win SP2?

Thanks SO much for your help. Steph

"Pop`" wrote:

> sstephy wrote:
> > After I installed SP2 I noticed 'some' files cannot be copied to a
> > CD. I get a pop-up message saying: "Confirm Stream Loss. File
> > contains extra information attached to it that might be lost if you
> > continue copying. The contents of the file will not be affected. Do
> > you want to continue?" I've stopped here because I'm not sure what
> > will happen to the file. This is happening to file types downloaded
> > from the net, camera's photos or items right clicked and saved from
> > the net. but NOT every every file.
> > The properties box of the files say: "This file came from another
> > computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer". There
> > is a box that I can click --"UNNBLOCK" -- which allows me to copy the
> > files to a disk.
> >
> > Is there a setting I can change to stop this from being added to
> > files I am saving to my hard-drive so that I don't have to do this
> > manually to every single file this 'block' has been added to?
> > Thanks, Steph
>
> It's a non-problem.
> I got confused by that too. What it usually means, is that the Properties,
> Summary tab for those files has information added by someone. Perhaps you
> or someone else added notes in that tab to explain or remember something
> about the use of the file. It's called an Alternate Data Stream and has
> nothing to do with the operability of the file itself or anything else; it's
> simply information ABOUT the file. CD format cannot support the ADS and
> thus the data in the Summary data is not able to be copied.
> You can however copy to other NTFS drives and that summary data will go
> along with the file; it's an NTFS feature. CD formats are not NTFS.
> The file itself will copy fine and nothing is wrong with anything. It's
> just that the comments or whatever is written in the Summary tab cannot go
> along with the file to the CD.
> I see another poster gave you a link for learning about ADS; it's a decent
> link.
>
> HTH
> Pop`
>
>
>

I answered my own question about why this happened as soon as I switched to
Win SP2. Here's the scoop:
With the Advent of XP SP2 when a file1 is downloaded from the internet (i.e.
by clicking on a link in explorer2) to an NTFS volume an Alternate Data
Stream (Zone.Identifier) is created along side the downloaded file (i.e.
downloadedfile.exe:zone.identifier). The content of this file is used as a
security by Windows XP as security data to determine the publisher/source of
the file.

I'm all set now to let my files fly to that cd without any more worries.

Thank you Pop and John John for your help. You're great! Steph.

"Pop`" wrote:

> sstephy wrote:
> > After I installed SP2 I noticed 'some' files cannot be copied to a
> > CD. I get a pop-up message saying: "Confirm Stream Loss. File
> > contains extra information attached to it that might be lost if you
> > continue copying. The contents of the file will not be affected. Do
> > you want to continue?" I've stopped here because I'm not sure what
> > will happen to the file. This is happening to file types downloaded
> > from the net, camera's photos or items right clicked and saved from
> > the net. but NOT every every file.
> > The properties box of the files say: "This file came from another
> > computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer". There
> > is a box that I can click --"UNNBLOCK" -- which allows me to copy the
> > files to a disk.
> >
> > Is there a setting I can change to stop this from being added to
> > files I am saving to my hard-drive so that I don't have to do this
> > manually to every single file this 'block' has been added to?
> > Thanks, Steph
>
> It's a non-problem.
> I got confused by that too. What it usually means, is that the Properties,
> Summary tab for those files has information added by someone. Perhaps you
> or someone else added notes in that tab to explain or remember something
> about the use of the file. It's called an Alternate Data Stream and has
> nothing to do with the operability of the file itself or anything else; it's
> simply information ABOUT the file. CD format cannot support the ADS and
> thus the data in the Summary data is not able to be copied.
> You can however copy to other NTFS drives and that summary data will go
> along with the file; it's an NTFS feature. CD formats are not NTFS.
> The file itself will copy fine and nothing is wrong with anything. It's
> just that the comments or whatever is written in the Summary tab cannot go
> along with the file to the CD.
> I see another poster gave you a link for learning about ADS; it's a decent
> link.
>
> HTH
> Pop`
>
>
>

sstephy wrote:
> I answered my own question about why this happened as soon as I
> switched to Win SP2. Here's the scoop:
> With the Advent of XP SP2 when a file1 is downloaded from the
> internet (i.e. by clicking on a link in explorer2) to an NTFS volume
> an Alternate Data Stream (Zone.Identifier) is created along side the
> downloaded file (i.e. downloadedfile.exe:zone.identifier). The
> content of this file is used as a security by Windows XP as security
> data to determine the publisher/source of the file.
>
> I'm all set now to let my files fly to that cd without any more
> worries.
>
> Thank you Pop and John John for your help. You're great! Steph.

Your'e welcome. And, it's great to see you wen tthe extra mile that
completed your lingering questions. KUDOS.

Pop`


>
> "Pop`" wrote:
>
>> sstephy wrote:
>>> After I installed SP2 I noticed 'some' files cannot be copied to a
>>> CD. I get a pop-up message saying: "Confirm Stream Loss. File
>>> contains extra information attached to it that might be lost if you
>>> continue copying. The contents of the file will not be affected. Do
>>> you want to continue?" I've stopped here because I'm not sure what
>>> will happen to the file. This is happening to file types downloaded
>>> from the net, camera's photos or items right clicked and saved from
>>> the net. but NOT every every file.
>>> The properties box of the files say: "This file came from another
>>> computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer". There
>>> is a box that I can click --"UNNBLOCK" -- which allows me to copy
>>> the files to a disk.
>>>
>>> Is there a setting I can change to stop this from being added to
>>> files I am saving to my hard-drive so that I don't have to do this
>>> manually to every single file this 'block' has been added to?
>>> Thanks, Steph
>>
>> It's a non-problem.
>> I got confused by that too. What it usually means, is that the
>> Properties, Summary tab for those files has information added by
>> someone. Perhaps you or someone else added notes in that tab to
>> explain or remember something about the use of the file. It's
>> called an Alternate Data Stream and has nothing to do with the
>> operability of the file itself or anything else; it's simply
>> information ABOUT the file. CD format cannot support the ADS and
>> thus the data in the Summary data is not able to be copied. You
>> can however copy to other NTFS drives and that summary data will go
>> along with the file; it's an NTFS feature. CD formats are not
>> NTFS. The file itself will copy fine and nothing is wrong with
>> anything. It's just that the comments or whatever is written in the
>> Summary tab cannot go along with the file to the CD. I see another
>> poster gave you a link for learning about ADS; it's a decent link.
>>
>> HTH
>> Pop`