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Paul H

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(Msg. 61) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I hope we get an answer before a week from tomorrow! Even though I don't
like it, it would be the easiest option for me.
Thanks,
Paul

"t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:ecrzNCPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
> Brink, aka Shawn, has one at Sevenforums.com
> Would you mind check it out ?
> Or, that is one the same ?
> t-4-2
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
>> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
>> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran RemoveThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that
>>> were
>>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted is
>>> not
>>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade. Unless
>>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the mailto
>>> and
>>> other protocols that are affected.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>>> the Subject line also.
>>>
>>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>>
>>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>>> frustrated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>>> far as
>>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>>> average
>>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>>> links don't work."
>>>>
>>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>>> others)?
>>>>
>>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>>> 7?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Gary VanderMolen

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Since: Dec 28, 2007
Posts: 292



(Msg. 62) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Which particular link at SevenForums?
I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5..html
with the following results:
a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"t-4-2" <dhuang1.TakeThisOut@cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:ecrzNCPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
> Brink, aka Shawn, has one at Sevenforums.com
> Would you mind check it out ?
> Or, that is one the same ?
> t-4-2
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
>> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
>> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.TakeThisOut@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that were
>>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted is
>>> not
>>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade. Unless
>>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the mailto
>>> and
>>> other protocols that are affected.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>>> the Subject line also.
>>>
>>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>>
>>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>>> frustrated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.TakeThisOut@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>>> far as
>>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>>> average
>>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>>> links don't work."
>>>>
>>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>>> others)?
>>>>
>>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>>> 7?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Gary VanderMolen

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Since: Dec 28, 2007
Posts: 292



(Msg. 63) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

CORRECTION:
I have again downloaded the "Windows Mail2.zip" file, extracted the
"Windows Mail2.reg" file, and ran it, and this time it did the trick!
Windows Mail can now be configured as the default mail program
under Windows 7.
What I don't know is whether the original "Windows Mail.zip" file
is still required also. I had used it some time ago with less than
stellar results. However, the author indicates that the second file
is "in addition to" the first file. If that is true, I don't know why he
doesn't just combine the two files into one.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:%23lCtNjPTKHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Which particular link at SevenForums?
I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5..html
with the following results:
a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:ecrzNCPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
> Brink, aka Shawn, has one at Sevenforums.com
> Would you mind check it out ?
> Or, that is one the same ?
> t-4-2
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
>> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
>> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran RemoveThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that were
>>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted is
>>> not
>>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade. Unless
>>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the mailto
>>> and
>>> other protocols that are affected.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>>> the Subject line also.
>>>
>>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>>
>>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>>> frustrated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>>> far as
>>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>>> average
>>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>>> links don't work."
>>>>
>>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>>> others)?
>>>>
>>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>>> 7?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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t-4-2

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(Msg. 64) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

'Windows Mail - Windows 7 Forums'
(http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html)

t-4-2

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:#lCtNjPTKHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Which particular link at SevenForums?
> I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
> http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5.html
> with the following results:
> a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
> b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
> but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:ecrzNCPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Gary,
>> Brink, aka Shawn, has one at Sevenforums.com
>> Would you mind check it out ?
>> Or, that is one the same ?
>> t-4-2
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
>>> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
>>> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran RemoveThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>>>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that
>>>> were
>>>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted is
>>>> not
>>>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade. Unless
>>>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the
>>>> mailto
>>>> and
>>>> other protocols that are affected.
>>>>
>>>> steve
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>>>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>>>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>>>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>>>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>>>> the Subject line also.
>>>>
>>>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>>>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>>>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>>>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>>>
>>>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>>>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>>>> frustrated.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>>>> far as
>>>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>>>> average
>>>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>>>> links don't work."
>>>>>
>>>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>>>> others)?
>>>>>
>>>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>>>> 7?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Gary VanderMolen

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(Msg. 65) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

That's just the basic copy/install procedure, which doesn't include any
of the .reg files necessary to make WM the default mail program.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:%23e9pcoPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> 'Windows Mail - Windows 7 Forums'
> (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html)
>
> t-4-2
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:#lCtNjPTKHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Which particular link at SevenForums?
>> I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
>> http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5..html
>> with the following results:
>> a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
>> b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
>> but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> news:ecrzNCPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Gary,
>>> Brink, aka Shawn, has one at Sevenforums.com
>>> Would you mind check it out ?
>>> Or, that is one the same ?
>>> t-4-2
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
>>>> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
>>>> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran RemoveThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>>>>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that
>>>>> were
>>>>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted is
>>>>> not
>>>>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade. Unless
>>>>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the
>>>>> mailto
>>>>> and
>>>>> other protocols that are affected.
>>>>>
>>>>> steve
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>>>>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>>>>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>>>>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>>>>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>>>>> the Subject line also.
>>>>>
>>>>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>>>>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>>>>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>>>>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>>>>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>>>>> frustrated.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>>>>> far as
>>>>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>>>>> average
>>>>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>>>>> links don't work."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>>>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>>>>> others)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>>>>> 7?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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t-4-2

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Since: Jul 03, 2009
Posts: 34



(Msg. 66) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Thank you.
So, now with this basic copy/install method and the Windows Mail2.reg file,
we can have Win 7 with WM running as default e-mail program. Correct ?
Sounds simple without " hacking ".
t-4-2

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:ersA2tPTKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> That's just the basic copy/install procedure, which doesn't include any
> of the .reg files necessary to make WM the default mail program.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "t-4-2" <dhuang1.RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23e9pcoPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> 'Windows Mail - Windows 7 Forums'
>> (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html)
>>
>> t-4-2
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:#lCtNjPTKHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Which particular link at SevenForums?
>>> I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
>>> http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5.html
>>> with the following results:
>>> a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
>>> b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
>>> but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1.RemoveThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:ecrzNCPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Gary,
>>>> Brink, aka Shawn, has one at Sevenforums.com
>>>> Would you mind check it out ?
>>>> Or, that is one the same ?
>>>> t-4-2
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
>>>>> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
>>>>> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.RemoveThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade.
>>>>>> Unless
>>>>>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the
>>>>>> mailto
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> other protocols that are affected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>>>>>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>>>>>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>>>>>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>>>>>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>>>>>> the Subject line also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>>>>>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>>>>>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>>>>>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>>>>>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>>>>>> frustrated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.RemoveThis@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>>>>>> far as
>>>>>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>>>>>> links don't work."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>>>>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>>>>>> others)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>>>>>> 7?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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(Msg. 67) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:33 pm
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I would like someone to try it with just the "Windows Mail2.reg" file.
I have a hunch that the original "Windows Mail.reg" file is also
required.

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"t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:OcIbdzPTKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thank you.
> So, now with this basic copy/install method and the Windows Mail2.reg file,
> we can have Win 7 with WM running as default e-mail program. Correct ?
> Sounds simple without " hacking ".
> t-4-2
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ersA2tPTKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> That's just the basic copy/install procedure, which doesn't include any
>> of the .reg files necessary to make WM the default mail program.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23e9pcoPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> 'Windows Mail - Windows 7 Forums'
>>> (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail.html)
>>>
>>> t-4-2
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:#lCtNjPTKHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Which particular link at SevenForums?
>>>> I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
>>>> http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5..html
>>>> with the following results:
>>>> a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
>>>> b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
>>>> but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:ecrzNCPTKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Gary,
>>>>> Brink, aka Shawn, has one at Sevenforums.com
>>>>> Would you mind check it out ?
>>>>> Or, that is one the same ?
>>>>> t-4-2
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
>>>>>> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
>>>>>> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran RemoveThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade.
>>>>>>> Unless
>>>>>>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the
>>>>>>> mailto
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> other protocols that are affected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>>>>>>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>>>>>>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>>>>>>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>>>>>>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>>>>>>> the Subject line also.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>>>>>>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>>>>>>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>>>>>>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>>>>>>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>>>>>>> frustrated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>>>>>>> far as
>>>>>>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>>>>>>> average
>>>>>>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>>>>>>> links don't work."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>>>>>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>>>>>>> others)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>>>>>>> 7?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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(Msg. 68) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:57 pm
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As I indicated, there is a lot more involved than just what's in those
files. Even if you got WinMail default, you still have functionality loss.

steve

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
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CORRECTION:
I have again downloaded the "Windows Mail2.zip" file, extracted the
"Windows Mail2.reg" file, and ran it, and this time it did the trick!
Windows Mail can now be configured as the default mail program
under Windows 7.
What I don't know is whether the original "Windows Mail.zip" file
is still required also. I had used it some time ago with less than
stellar results. However, the author indicates that the second file
is "in addition to" the first file. If that is true, I don't know why he
doesn't just combine the two files into one.

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"Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
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Which particular link at SevenForums?
I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5.html
with the following results:
a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"t-4-2" <dhuang1.TakeThisOut@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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> Gary,
> Brink, aka Shawn, has one at Sevenforums.com
> Would you mind check it out ?
> Or, that is one the same ?
> t-4-2
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
>> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
>> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.TakeThisOut@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that
>>> were
>>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted is
>>> not
>>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade. Unless
>>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the mailto
>>> and
>>> other protocols that are affected.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>>> the Subject line also.
>>>
>>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>>
>>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>>> frustrated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.TakeThisOut@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>>> far as
>>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>>> average
>>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>>> links don't work."
>>>>
>>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>>> others)?
>>>>
>>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>>> 7?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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(Msg. 69) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:59 pm
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I'm working on it, but it involves much more than the superficial files that
have been posted.

Also, are you now advocating (since you are using it) mixing OS files
between the two systems, since that is the only way you and others have
gotten a functional version?

steve

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
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Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.

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"Steve Cochran" <scochran RemoveThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
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> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that were
> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted is not
> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade. Unless
> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the mailto
> and
> other protocols that are affected.
>
> steve
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
> the Subject line also.
>
> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>
> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
> frustrated.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>> far as
>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>> average
>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>> links don't work."
>>
>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>> others)?
>>
>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>> 7?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 70) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:21 pm
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Until recently, none of the implementations of BASIC had the advantages of
Fortran, COBOL or Pascal. The original design criteria for BASIC was that it
could be used with minimal resources. Pascal was designed to show that a
well-designed language could be used with equivalent minimal resources.

I have not spent time learning the latest version of VB, but it seems to
finally support object-oriented programming.

I joined the Army in the early 70's and began programming in COBOL then.


"Steve Cochran" <scochran.DeleteThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I've been around with computers since the mid-70's and have gone
> from Fortran, to BASIC, back to Fortran, back to BASIC and then a little C
> and then more BASIC. Keep in mind that it at least 3 or 4 flavors of
> BASIC, so they really can't be equated.
>
> GWBASIC was not included also.
>
> steve
>
> "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis.DeleteThis@SamHobbs.org> wrote in message
> news:ukCU$wDTKHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Which is unfortunate; that is, that languages such as Fortran, COBOL and
>> Pascal got less support in the DOS and Windows (PC) environments. Even
>> C/C++ got less support than it could have. Microsoft is as successful as
>> it is due to DOS and Basic ... oh let's see, wasn't it Basic that came
>> first for the PC? The Basic that Microsoft provided for the PC was
>> proprietary and they have favored it because it is proprietary; Basic was
>> never favored by computer language specialists. Pascal was explicitly
>> designed to be a superior replacement for Basic, designed to be a real
>> language. Basic was originally designed for only educational purposes.
>>
>> So yes, Basic was often the only choice, even for those of us that wanted
>> something better, and it is unfortunate that Basic was the only choice
>> when it was.
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.DeleteThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:uD4rkG$SKHA.4780@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Fortran was abandoned by MS for the PC, so I used compiled BASIC for
>>> many of my scientific programs back in the 80's and 90's. It was the
>>> most viable option for the PC. Then MS abandoned that for Windows and
>>> its subsequent languages, of which Fortran is not included.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.DeleteThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:u3NbVRrSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> BASIC is not optimized for scientific or financial applications.
>>> In college I used Fortran for my engineering classes.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:uNXFdFnSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have never been able to understand COBOL, but then I was taking
>>>>lessons
>>>> once a week in Community College.
>>>> My favourite was Basic Language. I still have the book written by David
>>>> A.
>>>> Lien, " Learning Basic For Tandy Computers ".
>>>>
>>>> t-4-2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:e4R7flmSKHA.352@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi Tea-for-two,
>>>>> I have 16 accounts that get checked every 5 minutes. I have my own 2
>>>>> ATT.NET, Gmail, a few for www.verifycharges.com, a few for
>>>>> www.PCHplano.com, and a few for some other projects I'm working on.
>>>>> I've
>>>>> turned others on and off over that past few years as I've played with
>>>>> projects. So my left panel is a mess in "Live". I like most of my
>>>>> mail
>>>>> in "Inbox", with a few directed to specific other sub-folders. I like
>>>>> to
>>>>> have my sub-folders beneath my Inbox. Some I keep expanded and most I
>>>>> keep collapsed, unless I'm looking for something in one of them - they
>>>>> are
>>>>> mostly just for storage of historical mail. I think I mentioned that
>>>>> I
>>>>> keep all of my email - this is my entire filing system - all 37,000
>>>>> mails,
>>>>> I think! I should probably move it all to a data base, and simplify
>>>>> me
>>>>> email life. But, how to get there from here?
>>>>> I think I'll uninstall the entire "Live" collection and find an email
>>>>> client that I can live with, because I DO want to go to W7! Maybe
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> use Thunderbird, and initially just convert my main folders, then
>>>>> convert
>>>>> the others, and maybe weed out or consolidate them as I need them.
>>>>> Since
>>>>> I have 5 computers networked here in the house, and I only want to
>>>>> convert
>>>>> 2 to W7, I have plenty of places to keep the old stuff until I need
>>>>> it.
>>>>> I'm 70 and earn some $ writing COBOL (yup, that old stuff) (that I
>>>>> should
>>>>> be doing right now) so between PC's, TV (I'm addicted, and use Tivo
>>>>> extensively - who has time for commercials, except for football),
>>>>> reading
>>>>> (fiction only - no self improvement) and grandkids (eight of them), I
>>>>> hardly have time to sleep, and I've never been more content than right
>>>>> now.
>>>>> But Microsoft is messing with me by not continuing the Outlook Express
>>>>> way
>>>>> of doing things!
>>>>> Thanks for letting me vent! And tolerate the typos I'll see
>>>>> immediately
>>>>> after clicking "Send"!
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OiOYd7iSKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Sorry to hear that you dislike WLM.
>>>>>> For your information : When you were installing WLM, your were
>>>>>> OFFERED
>>>>>> several programs, i.e. Live Messenger, Writer, etc. You did not have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> take any of them. You could have declined all of them except the mail
>>>>>> client, WLM.
>>>>>> I don't know what you don't like about the Folder Pane. To me, it's
>>>>>> better than Windows Mail because Windows Mail dump all e-mails to one
>>>>>> In-box even though you may have different accounts. I have 3
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> accounts, and e-mails coming from different accounts will be
>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>> to their respective accounts.
>>>>>> I definitely don't know what do you mean by " my own ways of
>>>>>> organizing
>>>>>> pictures ". Both WLM and WM do not organize pictures. It's up to you.
>>>>>> Windows Mail ( WM ) has Windows Photo Gallery. Windows Live Mail (
>>>>>> WLM )
>>>>>> has Windows Live Photo Gallery. Slight different names, same animal.
>>>>>> Anyway, good luck searching for another e-mail client. I can't make
>>>>>> recommendation because I don't know any.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> t-4-2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eguxbliSKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> I did as you suggested. After my files were converted, I started
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> Live Mail. I DO NOT LIKE THE LEFT (FOLDERS) COLUMN! I need another
>>>>>>> email client. This "Live" stuff tries to make me use functions I do
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> want. I do not want to use instant messaging, for example, and I
>>>>>>> have my
>>>>>>> own ways of organizing pictures. So I'll probably uninstall all of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> "live" stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23j%23GjqcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Suggestion only......
>>>>>>>> Before you install Win7,
>>>>>>>> assuming you are now using Windows Mail, install Windows Live Mail.
>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>> you messages, contacts etc will be transferred from WM to WLM
>>>>>>>> automatically.
>>>>>>>> Now, go get your Win 7 which supports Windows Live Mail.
>>>>>>>> P.S. Windows Live Mail is to REPLACE Windows Mail which was shelved
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the back corner by MS.
>>>>>>>> Link to install Windows Live Mail : http://download.live.com
>>>>>>>> t-4-2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:Oq0drWcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the
>>>>>>>>> Outlook Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7?
>>>>>>>>> Thunderbird looks good, except there's no way to convert to it
>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>> hours of error-prone drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> only person with this issue. Is there another credible
>>>>>>>>> alternative,
>>>>>>>>> with a conversion path?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.DeleteThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> are somewhat lacking their success.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than
>>>>>>>>>> jumping
>>>>>>>>>> into Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few
>>>>>>>>>>> days?
>>>>>>>>>>> I must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I
>>>>>>>>>>> have 8 or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks
>>>>>>>>>>> automatically. Is OEX any good? TIA, Paul
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 71) Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:41 pm
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In general, I would not advocate mixing OS files.
However, no one has figured out a different way to make
Windows Mail work under Windows 7, and it doesn't seem
to cause any harm.
I still don't advocate it for the average user.

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"Steve Cochran" <scochran.DeleteThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:edj%23zBQTKHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I'm working on it, but it involves much more than the superficial files that
> have been posted.
>
> Also, are you now advocating (since you are using it) mixing OS files
> between the two systems, since that is the only way you and others have
> gotten a functional version?
>
> steve
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.DeleteThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Ov7q$4OTKHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
> all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
> use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.DeleteThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:09DF2489-8C2F-44D6-ABF0-A8129672F167@microsoft.com...
>> That's because you haven't replaced the correct registry values that were
>> removed during the upgrade. One registry file that has been posted is not
>> nearly adequate to replace what was removed during the upgrade. Unless
>> those values are reset, then Windows doesn't work in terms of the mailto
>> and
>> other protocols that are affected.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.DeleteThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:e0znKwDTKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> MailTo links are typically found on a web page.
>> One example is Craigslist listings. When clicking on such a
>> link to contact the person who placed the ad, the browser sends
>> the request to the OS, which then opens the default email program,
>> starts a new email message and it fills in the 'To' address and often
>> the Subject line also.
>>
>> A related function that won't work in Windows Mail on Win7 is the
>> Mail button in any other program, including Internet Explorer.
>> Likewise, when using Windows Live Photo Gallery, the Email button
>> on its toolbar won't call up Windows Mail.
>>
>> A savvy person who is determined to use WM on Win7 can use the
>> appropriate manual workarounds, but the average user will become
>> frustrated.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.DeleteThis@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>> news:OIq7BmDTKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.DeleteThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as
>>> far as
>>> the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the
>>> average
>>> user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo
>>> links don't work."
>>>
>>> By "MailTo" links do you mean addresses/contacts cannot be
>>> inserted in outgoing mail (either new mail, or replies to
>>> others)?
>>>
>>> What other parts of Windows Mail do not work under Windows
>>> 7?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 72) Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:54 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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What I was trying to show was this:

http://www.oehelp.com/capture2.jpg

<G>

steve

"aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:u88ZGbATKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The option I like the best is not updating to Win7 ... lol .... but in
> time that will not be an option as more people need to
> purchase new 'puters, so I guess we need to look at all other options to
> try and ensure the future of this extremely popular hobby
> .... many thanks for the info re that and also Winmail Steve .. more
> avenues to explore and save info on Smile)
>
> Ann
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.RemoveThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:ujgolJ$SKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I'm still working on things in the background trying to come up with
> alternatives for the stationery users as well as others. There are
> alternatives, such as using XP in an virtual environment on the Win7
> machines ("XP Mode" or just XP depending upon the hardware capabilities of
> the machine), as well as other options, such as not updating to Win7.
> There
> is also the potential to get Winmail working on a Win7 machine without
> copying any files over from other OSs, but that is a bit more challenging.
> <g>
>
> steve
>
> "aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:%23JIoXc6SKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Many thanks for your reply ... I was aware of that hack but was hoping
>> that it wouldn't be necessary, and I sincerely hope that
>> future upgrades do 'not' make WM even less compatible :- ((( ...... WLM
>> in
>> it's present state is not HTML scripted stationery user
>> friendly and to upgrade solely to that program is not an option for the
>> thousands of people in the stationery world ... to be able
>> to use it in conjunction with WM .... using WLM as the default but able
>> to
>> send the HTML scripted stationery by WinMail is the only
>> option we can see at the moment ... other than having 2 computers of
>> course ... lol
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23Y%23MGg5SKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
>> Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
>> from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
>> limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
>> set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
>> click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.
>>
>> I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
>> newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.
>>
>>
>> I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
>> compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
>> upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ...
>>> does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
>>> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will
>>> be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
>>> Mail ???
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
>>> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
>>> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
>>> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
>>> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
>>> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.RemoveThis@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>>>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>>>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>>>> work well under Windows 7."
>>>>
>>>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>>>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>>>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>>>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>>>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>>>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>>>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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(Msg. 73) Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:48 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Huh? What does the link you provided demonstrate? Strange "+" and "-" on
the display, and what they cause. OEX is in the background. I am extremely
confused. If this is not using Windows Mail under W7, I'm out of luck,
because I can't get my mail back out of Windows mail (#&^@* Microsoft!) and
back to Outlook Express.
Steve, I appreciate your help, and wish I understood it. Paul

"Steve Cochran" <scochran.TakeThisOut@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:402554E2-9094-432F-97CE-9D3EA2AAAAFC@microsoft.com...
> What I was trying to show was this:
>
> http://www.oehelp.com/capture2.jpg
>
> <G>
>
> steve
>
> "aussieann" <ann.TakeThisOut@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:u88ZGbATKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> The option I like the best is not updating to Win7 ... lol .... but in
>> time that will not be an option as more people need to
>> purchase new 'puters, so I guess we need to look at all other options to
>> try and ensure the future of this extremely popular hobby
>> .... many thanks for the info re that and also Winmail Steve .. more
>> avenues to explore and save info on Smile)
>>
>> Ann
>>
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.TakeThisOut@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:ujgolJ$SKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I'm still working on things in the background trying to come up with
>> alternatives for the stationery users as well as others. There are
>> alternatives, such as using XP in an virtual environment on the Win7
>> machines ("XP Mode" or just XP depending upon the hardware capabilities
>> of
>> the machine), as well as other options, such as not updating to Win7.
>> There
>> is also the potential to get Winmail working on a Win7 machine without
>> copying any files over from other OSs, but that is a bit more
>> challenging.
>> <g>
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "aussieann" <ann.TakeThisOut@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23JIoXc6SKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Many thanks for your reply ... I was aware of that hack but was hoping
>>> that it wouldn't be necessary, and I sincerely hope that
>>> future upgrades do 'not' make WM even less compatible :- ((( ...... WLM
>>> in
>>> it's present state is not HTML scripted stationery user
>>> friendly and to upgrade solely to that program is not an option for the
>>> thousands of people in the stationery world ... to be able
>>> to use it in conjunction with WM .... using WLM as the default but able
>>> to
>>> send the HTML scripted stationery by WinMail is the only
>>> option we can see at the moment ... other than having 2 computers of
>>> course ... lol
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:%23Y%23MGg5SKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
>>> Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
>>> from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
>>> limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
>>> set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
>>> click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.
>>>
>>> I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
>>> newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.
>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
>>> compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
>>> upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "aussieann" <ann.TakeThisOut@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say
>>>> ...
>>>> does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
>>>> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will
>>>> be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
>>>> Mail ???
>>>>
>>>> Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
>>>> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
>>>> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
>>>> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
>>>> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
>>>> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.TakeThisOut@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>>>>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>>>>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>>>>> work well under Windows 7."
>>>>>
>>>>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>>>>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>>>>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>>>>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>>>>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>>>>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>>>>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 74) Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:25 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Many thanks Steve <g> .... I can see how the virtual environment works now and does not appear too complicated, but when I look at
the homepage at what is involved in setting it all up I can't in all honesty see many able to get the ISO's etc and being able to
set it up .... though I suppose if getting a new computer that could be done by a tech guy .... anyhow like a squirrel am saving all
and everything and hoping that something else will come up in the near future .. smile
Ann

"Steve Cochran" <scochran DeleteThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message news:402554E2-9094-432F-97CE-9D3EA2AAAAFC@microsoft.com...
What I was trying to show was this:

http://www.oehelp.com/capture2.jpg

<G>

steve

"aussieann" <ann DeleteThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:u88ZGbATKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The option I like the best is not updating to Win7 ... lol .... but in
> time that will not be an option as more people need to
> purchase new 'puters, so I guess we need to look at all other options to
> try and ensure the future of this extremely popular hobby
> .... many thanks for the info re that and also Winmail Steve .. more
> avenues to explore and save info on Smile)
>
> Ann
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran DeleteThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:ujgolJ$SKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I'm still working on things in the background trying to come up with
> alternatives for the stationery users as well as others. There are
> alternatives, such as using XP in an virtual environment on the Win7
> machines ("XP Mode" or just XP depending upon the hardware capabilities of
> the machine), as well as other options, such as not updating to Win7.
> There
> is also the potential to get Winmail working on a Win7 machine without
> copying any files over from other OSs, but that is a bit more challenging.
> <g>
>
> steve
>
> "aussieann" <ann DeleteThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:%23JIoXc6SKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Many thanks for your reply ... I was aware of that hack but was hoping
>> that it wouldn't be necessary, and I sincerely hope that
>> future upgrades do 'not' make WM even less compatible :- ((( ...... WLM
>> in
>> it's present state is not HTML scripted stationery user
>> friendly and to upgrade solely to that program is not an option for the
>> thousands of people in the stationery world ... to be able
>> to use it in conjunction with WM .... using WLM as the default but able
>> to
>> send the HTML scripted stationery by WinMail is the only
>> option we can see at the moment ... other than having 2 computers of
>> course ... lol
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary DeleteThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23Y%23MGg5SKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
>> Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
>> from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
>> limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
>> set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
>> click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.
>>
>> I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
>> newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.
>>
>>
>> I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
>> compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
>> upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "aussieann" <ann DeleteThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ...
>>> does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
>>> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will
>>> be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
>>> Mail ???
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary DeleteThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
>>> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
>>> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
>>> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
>>> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
>>> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee DeleteThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary DeleteThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>>>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>>>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>>>> work well under Windows 7."
>>>>
>>>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>>>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>>>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>>>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>>>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>>>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>>>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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(Msg. 75) Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:25 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 7 email program? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Have been looking at windows 7 inf etc and see that depending on the version of windows 7 installed it comes with windows virtual
and XP mode .. it's referring to installing older programs but I assume it would be the same as in your screenshot and we would be
able to access OE from it too .. smile
Ann

"aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:eFVFFHuTKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Many thanks Steve <g> .... I can see how the virtual environment works now and does not appear too complicated, but when I look at
the homepage at what is involved in setting it all up I can't in all honesty see many able to get the ISO's etc and being able to
set it up .... though I suppose if getting a new computer that could be done by a tech guy .... anyhow like a squirrel am saving all
and everything and hoping that something else will come up in the near future .. smile
Ann

"Steve Cochran" <scochran.RemoveThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message news:402554E2-9094-432F-97CE-9D3EA2AAAAFC@microsoft.com...
What I was trying to show was this:

http://www.oehelp.com/capture2.jpg

<G>

steve

"aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:u88ZGbATKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The option I like the best is not updating to Win7 ... lol .... but in
> time that will not be an option as more people need to
> purchase new 'puters, so I guess we need to look at all other options to
> try and ensure the future of this extremely popular hobby
> .... many thanks for the info re that and also Winmail Steve .. more
> avenues to explore and save info on Smile)
>
> Ann
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.RemoveThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:ujgolJ$SKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I'm still working on things in the background trying to come up with
> alternatives for the stationery users as well as others. There are
> alternatives, such as using XP in an virtual environment on the Win7
> machines ("XP Mode" or just XP depending upon the hardware capabilities of
> the machine), as well as other options, such as not updating to Win7.
> There
> is also the potential to get Winmail working on a Win7 machine without
> copying any files over from other OSs, but that is a bit more challenging.
> <g>
>
> steve
>
> "aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:%23JIoXc6SKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Many thanks for your reply ... I was aware of that hack but was hoping
>> that it wouldn't be necessary, and I sincerely hope that
>> future upgrades do 'not' make WM even less compatible :- ((( ...... WLM
>> in
>> it's present state is not HTML scripted stationery user
>> friendly and to upgrade solely to that program is not an option for the
>> thousands of people in the stationery world ... to be able
>> to use it in conjunction with WM .... using WLM as the default but able
>> to
>> send the HTML scripted stationery by WinMail is the only
>> option we can see at the moment ... other than having 2 computers of
>> course ... lol
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23Y%23MGg5SKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
>> Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
>> from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
>> limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
>> set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
>> click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.
>>
>> I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
>> newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.
>>
>>
>> I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
>> compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
>> upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ...
>>> does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
>>> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will
>>> be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
>>> Mail ???
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
>>> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
>>> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
>>> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
>>> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
>>> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>>
>>>
>>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.RemoveThis@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>>>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>>>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>>>> work well under Windows 7."
>>>>
>>>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>>>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>>>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>>>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>>>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>>>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>>>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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