Windows 7 email program?

Gary VanderMolen;1158234 Wrote:
> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "CWLee" <cdubyalee@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@newsgroup> > >
> > >
> > > "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@newsgroup> wrote:
> > >
> > > "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
> > > after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
> > > Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
> > > work well under Windows 7."
> > >
> > > That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
> > > automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
> > > that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
> > > I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
> > > revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
> > > sources of info about how a novice might manage this
> > > simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
> > >
> > > Many thanks.
> > > > >


Paul H. If you visit the Mozilla Thunderbird page there will be a link
to the addon called ImportExport. Download it to your desktop, or
wherever, run Thunderbird and select Tools - Addons. Get it to install
it. Then just import your saved emails.

Trust me, it's easier than it sounds.

Like Gary Vandermolen, I'm running both quite happily. If one falls
over, use the other :D


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Has anyone used Thunderbird with Win 7?


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"lemur" <guest.DeleteThis@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:297b0d3d5916f83291aa7e086d9b23e7@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Has anyone used Thunderbird with Win 7?

Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ... does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
Mail ???

Ann


"Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
I've been running both programs simultaneously since
February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>
> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
> work well under Windows 7."
>
> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>
> Many thanks.
>

Yes. If you know how to " hack " it.

t-4-2

"aussieann" <ann.TakeThisOut@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ...
> does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will be
> available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
> Mail ???
>
> Ann
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.TakeThisOut@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
> news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>> work well under Windows 7."
>>
>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>
>

There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.

I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.


I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"aussieann" <ann RemoveThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say .... does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
> Mail ???
>
> Ann
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>> work well under Windows 7."
>>
>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>
>

Gary, I'm confused by your statements. On October 11,
above, you said:

"Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
I've been running both programs simultaneously since
February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7. You
don't need to do anything special. ... ".

Then today, October 12, you say:

"There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail
in
Win7. ... There are limitations to that hack. For one
thing, it doesn't allow WM to be set as the default mail
client."

To make things murkier for me, t-4-2 wrote, on October 11:

"WLM and WM will co-exist. You do have to assign one as the
Default program, and each time you open the non-default one,
you'll be asked if you want to change it to default. Just
click NO."

Further clarification appreciated, not just from Gary and
t-4-2, but from anyone with experience using both MW and
MLM.

Thanks.

Thanks t-4-2 .... I am aware of that hack ... guess I was kinda hoping MS had listened to the many pleas from the stationery makers
and decided to make WM available as well as WLM .... naive but one can but hope ... lmao

Ann

"t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message news:uqWzxu4SKHA.764@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Yes. If you know how to " hack " it.

t-4-2

"aussieann" <ann RemoveThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ...
> does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will be
> available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
> Mail ???
>
> Ann
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "CWLee" <cdubyalee RemoveThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
> news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary RemoveThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>> work well under Windows 7."
>>
>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>
>

Many thanks for your reply ... I was aware of that hack but was hoping that it wouldn't be necessary, and I sincerely hope that
future upgrades do 'not' make WM even less compatible :- ((( ...... WLM in it's present state is not HTML scripted stationery user
friendly and to upgrade solely to that program is not an option for the thousands of people in the stationery world ... to be able
to use it in conjunction with WM .... using WLM as the default but able to send the HTML scripted stationery by WinMail is the only
option we can see at the moment ... other than having 2 computers of course ... lol

Ann

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary DeleteThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:%23Y%23MGg5SKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.

I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.


I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"aussieann" <ann DeleteThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ... does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
> Mail ???
>
> Ann
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary DeleteThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "CWLee" <cdubyalee DeleteThis @post.harvard.edu> wrote in message news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary DeleteThis @NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>> work well under Windows 7."
>>
>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>
>

You're very welcome, Ann.
I'm not into stationery or editing HTML source code, and I guess
MS feels not enough of its users are, otherwise they'd make it
more of a priority.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:%23JIoXc6SKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Many thanks for your reply ... I was aware of that hack but was hoping that it wouldn't be necessary, and I sincerely hope that
> future upgrades do 'not' make WM even less compatible :- ((( ...... WLM in it's present state is not HTML scripted stationery user
> friendly and to upgrade solely to that program is not an option for the thousands of people in the stationery world ... to be able
> to use it in conjunction with WM .... using WLM as the default but able to send the HTML scripted stationery by WinMail is the only
> option we can see at the moment ... other than having 2 computers of course ... lol
>
> Ann
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:%23Y%23MGg5SKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
> Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
> from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
> limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
> set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
> click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.
>
> I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
> newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.
>
>
> I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
> compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
> upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "aussieann" <ann.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say .... does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
>> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
>> Mail ???
>>
>> Ann
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
>> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
>> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
>> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
>> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
>> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.RemoveThis@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.RemoveThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>>> work well under Windows 7."
>>>
>>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

When Gary mentioned WM could not be default, it applied in Win7.
When I said " switching " default between WM and WLM, I was talking about
Vista, NOT Win7.

t-4-2

"CWLee" <cdubyalee.TakeThisOut@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
news:#DEmk08SKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Gary, I'm confused by your statements. On October 11, above, you said:
>
> "Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7. You don't need to do
> anything special. ... ".
>
> Then today, October 12, you say:
>
> "There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
> Win7. ... There are limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't
> allow WM to be set as the default mail client."
>
> To make things murkier for me, t-4-2 wrote, on October 11:
>
> "WLM and WM will co-exist. You do have to assign one as the Default
> program, and each time you open the non-default one, you'll be asked if
> you want to change it to default. Just click NO."
>
> Further clarification appreciated, not just from Gary and t-4-2, but from
> anyone with experience using both MW and MLM.
>
> Thanks.
>

Fortran was abandoned by MS for the PC, so I used compiled BASIC for many of
my scientific programs back in the 80's and 90's. It was the most viable
option for the PC. Then MS abandoned that for Windows and its subsequent
languages, of which Fortran is not included.

steve

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary.TakeThisOut@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
news:u3NbVRrSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
BASIC is not optimized for scientific or financial applications.
In college I used Fortran for my engineering classes.

--
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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"t-4-2" <dhuang1.TakeThisOut@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:uNXFdFnSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I have never been able to understand COBOL, but then I was taking lessons
> once a week in Community College.
> My favourite was Basic Language. I still have the book written by David A.
> Lien, " Learning Basic For Tandy Computers ".
>
> t-4-2
>
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote in message
> news:e4R7flmSKHA.352@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Tea-for-two,
>> I have 16 accounts that get checked every 5 minutes. I have my own 2
>> ATT.NET, Gmail, a few for www.verifycharges.com, a few for
>> www.PCHplano.com, and a few for some other projects I'm working on. I've
>> turned others on and off over that past few years as I've played with
>> projects. So my left panel is a mess in "Live". I like most of my mail
>> in "Inbox", with a few directed to specific other sub-folders. I like to
>> have my sub-folders beneath my Inbox. Some I keep expanded and most I
>> keep collapsed, unless I'm looking for something in one of them - they
>> are
>> mostly just for storage of historical mail. I think I mentioned that I
>> keep all of my email - this is my entire filing system - all 37,000
>> mails,
>> I think! I should probably move it all to a data base, and simplify me
>> email life. But, how to get there from here?
>> I think I'll uninstall the entire "Live" collection and find an email
>> client that I can live with, because I DO want to go to W7! Maybe I'll
>> use Thunderbird, and initially just convert my main folders, then convert
>> the others, and maybe weed out or consolidate them as I need them. Since
>> I have 5 computers networked here in the house, and I only want to
>> convert
>> 2 to W7, I have plenty of places to keep the old stuff until I need it.
>> I'm 70 and earn some $ writing COBOL (yup, that old stuff) (that I should
>> be doing right now) so between PC's, TV (I'm addicted, and use Tivo
>> extensively - who has time for commercials, except for football), reading
>> (fiction only - no self improvement) and grandkids (eight of them), I
>> hardly have time to sleep, and I've never been more content than right
>> now.
>> But Microsoft is messing with me by not continuing the Outlook Express
>> way
>> of doing things!
>> Thanks for letting me vent! And tolerate the typos I'll see immediately
>> after clicking "Send"!
>> Paul
>>
>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1.TakeThisOut@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> news:OiOYd7iSKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Sorry to hear that you dislike WLM.
>>> For your information : When you were installing WLM, your were OFFERED
>>> several programs, i.e. Live Messenger, Writer, etc. You did not have to
>>> take any of them. You could have declined all of them except the mail
>>> client, WLM.
>>> I don't know what you don't like about the Folder Pane. To me, it's
>>> better than Windows Mail because Windows Mail dump all e-mails to one
>>> In-box even though you may have different accounts. I have 3 different
>>> accounts, and e-mails coming from different accounts will be downloaded
>>> to their respective accounts.
>>> I definitely don't know what do you mean by " my own ways of organizing
>>> pictures ". Both WLM and WM do not organize pictures. It's up to you.
>>> Windows Mail ( WM ) has Windows Photo Gallery. Windows Live Mail ( WLM )
>>> has Windows Live Photo Gallery. Slight different names, same animal.
>>> Anyway, good luck searching for another e-mail client. I can't make
>>> recommendation because I don't know any.
>>>
>>> t-4-2
>>>
>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eguxbliSKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> I did as you suggested. After my files were converted, I started using
>>>> Live Mail. I DO NOT LIKE THE LEFT (FOLDERS) COLUMN! I need another
>>>> email client. This "Live" stuff tries to make me use functions I do
>>>> not
>>>> want. I do not want to use instant messaging, for example, and I have
>>>> my
>>>> own ways of organizing pictures. So I'll probably uninstall all of the
>>>> "live" stuff.
>>>>
>>>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1.TakeThisOut@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23j%23GjqcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Suggestion only......
>>>>> Before you install Win7,
>>>>> assuming you are now using Windows Mail, install Windows Live Mail.
>>>>> All
>>>>> you messages, contacts etc will be transferred from WM to WLM
>>>>> automatically.
>>>>> Now, go get your Win 7 which supports Windows Live Mail.
>>>>> P.S. Windows Live Mail is to REPLACE Windows Mail which was shelved to
>>>>> the back corner by MS.
>>>>> Link to install Windows Live Mail : http://download.live.com
>>>>> t-4-2
>>>>>
>>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Oq0drWcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the
>>>>>> Outlook Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7?
>>>>>> Thunderbird looks good, except there's no way to convert to it
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> hours of error-prone drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> only person with this issue. Is there another credible alternative,
>>>>>> with a conversion path?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.TakeThisOut@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they
>>>>>>> are somewhat lacking their success.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than
>>>>>>> jumping
>>>>>>> into Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days?
>>>>>>>> I must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of
>>>>>>>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I
>>>>>>>> have 8 or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks
>>>>>>>> automatically. Is OEX any good? TIA, Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

I'm still working on things in the background trying to come up with
alternatives for the stationery users as well as others. There are
alternatives, such as using XP in an virtual environment on the Win7
machines ("XP Mode" or just XP depending upon the hardware capabilities of
the machine), as well as other options, such as not updating to Win7. There
is also the potential to get Winmail working on a Win7 machine without
copying any files over from other OSs, but that is a bit more challenging.
<g>

steve

"aussieann" <ann.DeleteThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:%23JIoXc6SKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Many thanks for your reply ... I was aware of that hack but was hoping
> that it wouldn't be necessary, and I sincerely hope that
> future upgrades do 'not' make WM even less compatible :- ((( ...... WLM in
> it's present state is not HTML scripted stationery user
> friendly and to upgrade solely to that program is not an option for the
> thousands of people in the stationery world ... to be able
> to use it in conjunction with WM .... using WLM as the default but able to
> send the HTML scripted stationery by WinMail is the only
> option we can see at the moment ... other than having 2 computers of
> course ... lol
>
> Ann
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.DeleteThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23Y%23MGg5SKHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
> Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
> from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
> limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
> set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
> click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.
>
> I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
> newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.
>
>
> I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
> compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
> upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>
>
> "aussieann" <ann.DeleteThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:uAyCrs4SKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ...
>> does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
>> Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will
>> be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
>> Mail ???
>>
>> Ann
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.DeleteThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:uLVYPjvSKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
>> I've been running both programs simultaneously since
>> February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
>> You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
>> incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
>> leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
>>
>>
>> "CWLee" <cdubyalee.DeleteThis@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
>> news:%23mMKAasSKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary.DeleteThis@NoMail.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
>>> after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
>>> Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
>>> work well under Windows 7."
>>>
>>> That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
>>> automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
>>> that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
>>> I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
>>> revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
>>> sources of info about how a novice might manage this
>>> simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>