Windows 7 email program?

I want to stress again what PA Bear already mentioned.
If you plan to use Windows Live Mail with Windows 7, install it
on your Vista computer now. Hopefully it will auto-import all
your WM stuff. Then you can copy your WLM data from your
Vista computer and restore it on your Windows 7 computer.
A free third party program will do that job very nicely:

http://www.staticbackup.com/windows-live-mail-backup/
http://www.staticbackup.com/products.htm#swmbf

It does not transfer contacts, so you should handle those separately.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote in message news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I must
> be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of folders, many
> nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have 8 or more email
> addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is OEX any good? TIA,
> Paul
>

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Win7 does not include any default Mail Client but you can
> install one of your choosing (e.g., Windows Live Mail; MS
> Outlook; Eudora; Thunderbird).
>
> You might consider migrating from Windows Mail to Windows
> Live Mail now to ease the transition (assuming you wanna
> use Windows Live Mail as your default Mail Client in
> Win7).

Do I assume correctly that W-7 will not support Windows
Mail? I'm currently using it, and am happy with it, so I'd
prefer not to make another switch (as I did when I went to
Vista, switching from Outlook Express to Windows Mail.)

Thanks.

There is a hack available to allow some use of WM in Windows 7.
There are limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow
Windows Mail to be set as the default mail client.

I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"CWLee" <cdubyalee.TakeThisOut@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message news:%23bMtqMRSKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Do I assume correctly that W-7 will not support Windows
> Mail? I'm currently using it, and am happy with it, so I'd
> prefer not to make another switch (as I did when I went to
> Vista, switching from Outlook Express to Windows Mail.)

Our sister forum, 'Windows 7 Forums' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) ,
might provide a good source of information for you.


--
lemur

::If *ANYONE* in this forum helps you, please click on
their *REP* icon. Thanks! (the middle scale icon in the upper right
corner)::

OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they are
somewhat lacking their success.

I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping into
Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.

steve

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I must
> be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of folders, many
> nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have 8 or more email
> addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is OEX any good? TIA,
> Paul

That is correct at the moment. The WinMail application in Win7 is unusable
at the moment.

There is no need for users to update to Win7 and lose basic OS functionality
if they are happy with XP or Vista.

steve

"CWLee" <cdubyalee.RemoveThis@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
news:%23bMtqMRSKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Win7 does not include any default Mail Client but you can install one of
>> your choosing (e.g., Windows Live Mail; MS Outlook; Eudora; Thunderbird).
>>
>> You might consider migrating from Windows Mail to Windows Live Mail now
>> to ease the transition (assuming you wanna use Windows Live Mail as your
>> default Mail Client in Win7).
>
> Do I assume correctly that W-7 will not support Windows Mail? I'm
> currently using it, and am happy with it, so I'd prefer not to make
> another switch (as I did when I went to Vista, switching from Outlook
> Express to Windows Mail.)
>
> Thanks.

Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the Outlook
Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7? Thunderbird looks
good, except there's no way to convert to it without hours of error-prone
drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person with this
issue. Is there another credible alternative, with a conversion path?

"Steve Cochran" <scochran DeleteThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they are
> somewhat lacking their success.
>
> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping into
> Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>
> steve
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I
>> must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of
>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have 8
>> or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is OEX
>> any good? TIA, Paul
>
>

Suggestion only......
Before you install Win7,
assuming you are now using Windows Mail, install Windows Live Mail. All you
messages, contacts etc will be transferred from WM to WLM automatically.
Now, go get your Win 7 which supports Windows Live Mail.
P.S. Windows Live Mail is to REPLACE Windows Mail which was shelved to the
back corner by MS.
Link to install Windows Live Mail : http://download.live.com
t-4-2

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
news:Oq0drWcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the Outlook
> Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7? Thunderbird looks
> good, except there's no way to convert to it without hours of error-prone
> drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person with this
> issue. Is there another credible alternative, with a conversion path?
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.DeleteThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
>> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they are
>> somewhat lacking their success.
>>
>> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping
>> into Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I
>>> must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of
>>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have 8
>>> or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is OEX
>>> any good? TIA, Paul
>>
>>
>

I did as you suggested. After my files were converted, I started using Live
Mail. I DO NOT LIKE THE LEFT (FOLDERS) COLUMN! I need another email
client. This "Live" stuff tries to make me use functions I do not want. I
do not want to use instant messaging, for example, and I have my own ways of
organizing pictures. So I'll probably uninstall all of the "live" stuff.

"t-4-2" <dhuang1 DeleteThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:%23j%23GjqcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Suggestion only......
> Before you install Win7,
> assuming you are now using Windows Mail, install Windows Live Mail. All
> you messages, contacts etc will be transferred from WM to WLM
> automatically.
> Now, go get your Win 7 which supports Windows Live Mail.
> P.S. Windows Live Mail is to REPLACE Windows Mail which was shelved to the
> back corner by MS.
> Link to install Windows Live Mail : http://download.live.com
> t-4-2
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
> news:Oq0drWcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the Outlook
>> Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7? Thunderbird looks
>> good, except there's no way to convert to it without hours of error-prone
>> drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person with this
>> issue. Is there another credible alternative, with a conversion path?
>>
>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran DeleteThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
>> news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
>>> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they are
>>> somewhat lacking their success.
>>>
>>> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping
>>> into Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>>>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I
>>>> must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of
>>>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have 8
>>>> or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is OEX
>>>> any good? TIA, Paul
>>>
>>>
>>

You can make Windows Live Mail as web-unaware as you want.
There certainly is no need to use instant messaging with it, or the
"photo email" option.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message news:eguxbliSKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I did as you suggested. After my files were converted, I started using Live
> Mail. I DO NOT LIKE THE LEFT (FOLDERS) COLUMN! I need another email
> client. This "Live" stuff tries to make me use functions I do not want. I
> do not want to use instant messaging, for example, and I have my own ways of
> organizing pictures. So I'll probably uninstall all of the "live" stuff.
>
> "t-4-2" <dhuang1.DeleteThis@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23j%23GjqcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Suggestion only......
>> Before you install Win7,
>> assuming you are now using Windows Mail, install Windows Live Mail. All
>> you messages, contacts etc will be transferred from WM to WLM
>> automatically.
>> Now, go get your Win 7 which supports Windows Live Mail.
>> P.S. Windows Live Mail is to REPLACE Windows Mail which was shelved to the
>> back corner by MS.
>> Link to install Windows Live Mail : http://download.live.com
>> t-4-2
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:Oq0drWcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the Outlook
>>> Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7? Thunderbird looks
>>> good, except there's no way to convert to it without hours of error-prone
>>> drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person with this
>>> issue. Is there another credible alternative, with a conversion path?
>>>
>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran.DeleteThis@oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
>>>> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they are
>>>> somewhat lacking their success.
>>>>
>>>> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping
>>>> into Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>>>>
>>>> steve
>>>>
>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>>>>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I
>>>>> must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of
>>>>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have 8
>>>>> or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is OEX
>>>>> any good? TIA, Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

Sorry to hear that you dislike WLM.
For your information : When you were installing WLM, your were OFFERED
several programs, i.e. Live Messenger, Writer, etc. You did not have to take
any of them. You could have declined all of them except the mail client,
WLM.
I don't know what you don't like about the Folder Pane. To me, it's better
than Windows Mail because Windows Mail dump all e-mails to one In-box even
though you may have different accounts. I have 3 different accounts, and
e-mails coming from different accounts will be downloaded to their
respective accounts.
I definitely don't know what do you mean by " my own ways of organizing
pictures ". Both WLM and WM do not organize pictures. It's up to you.
Windows Mail ( WM ) has Windows Photo Gallery. Windows Live Mail ( WLM ) has
Windows Live Photo Gallery. Slight different names, same animal.
Anyway, good luck searching for another e-mail client. I can't make
recommendation because I don't know any.

t-4-2

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
news:eguxbliSKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I did as you suggested. After my files were converted, I started using
> Live Mail. I DO NOT LIKE THE LEFT (FOLDERS) COLUMN! I need another email
> client. This "Live" stuff tries to make me use functions I do not want.
> I do not want to use instant messaging, for example, and I have my own
> ways of organizing pictures. So I'll probably uninstall all of the "live"
> stuff.
>
> "t-4-2" <dhuang1 DeleteThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23j%23GjqcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Suggestion only......
>> Before you install Win7,
>> assuming you are now using Windows Mail, install Windows Live Mail. All
>> you messages, contacts etc will be transferred from WM to WLM
>> automatically.
>> Now, go get your Win 7 which supports Windows Live Mail.
>> P.S. Windows Live Mail is to REPLACE Windows Mail which was shelved to
>> the back corner by MS.
>> Link to install Windows Live Mail : http://download.live.com
>> t-4-2
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
>> news:Oq0drWcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the
>>> Outlook Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7?
>>> Thunderbird looks good, except there's no way to convert to it without
>>> hours of error-prone drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm the
>>> only person with this issue. Is there another credible alternative,
>>> with a conversion path?
>>>
>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran DeleteThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
>>>> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they are
>>>> somewhat lacking their success.
>>>>
>>>> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping
>>>> into Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>>>>
>>>> steve
>>>>
>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>>>>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I
>>>>> must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of
>>>>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have
>>>>> 8 or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is
>>>>> OEX any good? TIA, Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

If you could tolerate the Folders Pane, you can uninstall the rest of the
programs that you do not want.
Start button > Control Panel > Programs and Features. Scroll to and select
Windows Live Essentials, right click > Uninstall. Follow the prompts, select
the programs you want to get rid of.

t-4-2

"t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:OiOYd7iSKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Sorry to hear that you dislike WLM.
> For your information : When you were installing WLM, your were OFFERED
> several programs, i.e. Live Messenger, Writer, etc. You did not have to
> take any of them. You could have declined all of them except the mail
> client, WLM.
> I don't know what you don't like about the Folder Pane. To me, it's better
> than Windows Mail because Windows Mail dump all e-mails to one In-box even
> though you may have different accounts. I have 3 different accounts, and
> e-mails coming from different accounts will be downloaded to their
> respective accounts.
> I definitely don't know what do you mean by " my own ways of organizing
> pictures ". Both WLM and WM do not organize pictures. It's up to you.
> Windows Mail ( WM ) has Windows Photo Gallery. Windows Live Mail ( WLM )
> has Windows Live Photo Gallery. Slight different names, same animal.
> Anyway, good luck searching for another e-mail client. I can't make
> recommendation because I don't know any.
>
> t-4-2
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in message
> news:eguxbliSKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I did as you suggested. After my files were converted, I started using
>> Live Mail. I DO NOT LIKE THE LEFT (FOLDERS) COLUMN! I need another
>> email client. This "Live" stuff tries to make me use functions I do not
>> want. I do not want to use instant messaging, for example, and I have my
>> own ways of organizing pictures. So I'll probably uninstall all of the
>> "live" stuff.
>>
>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1 RemoveThis @cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23j%23GjqcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Suggestion only......
>>> Before you install Win7,
>>> assuming you are now using Windows Mail, install Windows Live Mail. All
>>> you messages, contacts etc will be transferred from WM to WLM
>>> automatically.
>>> Now, go get your Win 7 which supports Windows Live Mail.
>>> P.S. Windows Live Mail is to REPLACE Windows Mail which was shelved to
>>> the back corner by MS.
>>> Link to install Windows Live Mail : http://download.live.com
>>> t-4-2
>>>
>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Oq0drWcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the
>>>> Outlook Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7?
>>>> Thunderbird looks good, except there's no way to convert to it without
>>>> hours of error-prone drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm the
>>>> only person with this issue. Is there another credible alternative,
>>>> with a conversion path?
>>>>
>>>> "Steve Cochran" <scochran RemoveThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
>>>>> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they
>>>>> are somewhat lacking their success.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping
>>>>> into Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>> steve
>>>>>
>>>>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I
>>>>>> must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of
>>>>>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have
>>>>>> 8 or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is
>>>>>> OEX any good? TIA, Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>

I don't like WLM either. I'm not sure what I'm going do except make sure I
don't update all my machines to Win7.

steve

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in message
news:Oq0drWcSKHA.4048@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the Outlook
> Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7? Thunderbird looks
> good, except there's no way to convert to it without hours of error-prone
> drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person with this
> issue. Is there another credible alternative, with a conversion path?
>
> "Steve Cochran" <scochran RemoveThis @oehelp.com> wrote in message
> news:eybNieaSKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
>> rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they are
>> somewhat lacking their success.
>>
>> I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping
>> into Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in message
>> news:4914A9B5-5AC2-4949-B79C-C2FA7DAF4B6D@microsoft.com...
>>> What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I
>>> must be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of
>>> folders, many nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have 8
>>> or more email addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is OEX
>>> any good? TIA, Paul
>>
>>
>