Upgrading Windows XP Pro To Vista When The Day Arrives

No. OEM versions of Windows have a unique license
that is permentantly tied to the first computer it is installed
and activated on. Besides, upgrading means the new license
incorpoartes the orignal license used for the upgrade.

Q.==> Can I sell or give away old versions of my software when I acquire an upgrade?

A.==> No. Because the original full version software and the upgrade version software
together are a single software program, you will need to retain the prior version in order
to establish your eligibility for the upgrade license.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

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"D. Spencer Hines"wrote:

| Millions of folks are now using OEM versions of Windows XP.
|
| When they eventually want to upgrade to Vista will they be able to buy a
| commercial upgrade and then be able to port the Vista install to a NEW
| computer when the first one craters?
|
| DSH

Thank You.

So, am I understanding you correctly?

Under the current ROE, because we are talking WAR here not just EULA's --
WAR Against Software Pirates -- Which Has Turned Into Cruel & Unusual
Punishment for Millions of Honest Folks -- users will be able to upgrade an
OEM copy of Windows XP with a commercial upgrade and then easily and legally
port the new COMPLETE install of Vista to a NEW computer -- as long as they
remove it from the OLD one or cannot because the computer has cratered and
they cannot use it anymore?

DSH

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>
>> Millions of folks are now using OEM versions of Windows XP.
>>
>> When they eventually want to upgrade to Vista will they be able to
>> buy a commercial upgrade and then be able to port the Vista install
>> to a NEW computer when the first one craters?
>
>
> We'll have to wait to see how the EULA reads when it's released, but it's
> a reasonable expectation that the rules will be the same as they are now.
> If so, the answer will be yes.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Thank You.
>
> So, am I understanding you correctly?
>
> Under the current ROE, because we are talking WAR here not just
> EULA's -- WAR Against Software Pirates -- Which Has Turned Into Cruel
> & Unusual Punishment for Millions of Honest Folks -- users will be
> able to upgrade an OEM copy of Windows XP with a commercial upgrade
> and then easily and legally port the new COMPLETE install of Vista to
> a NEW computer -- as long as they remove it from the OLD one or
> cannot because the computer has cratered and they cannot use it
> anymore?



No, I didn't say that. I said that I don't know what the rules will be. What
the rules will be haven't been announced yet.

I also said that it's a reasonable expectation that the rules will be the
same as they are now.


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:uA2xG9cJGHA.2864@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>>
>>> Millions of folks are now using OEM versions of Windows XP.
>>>
>>> When they eventually want to upgrade to Vista will they be able to
>>> buy a commercial upgrade and then be able to port the Vista install
>>> to a NEW computer when the first one craters?
>>
>>
>> We'll have to wait to see how the EULA reads when it's released, but
>> it's a reasonable expectation that the rules will be the same as
>> they are now. If so, the answer will be yes.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup

Nope, you misunderstood what I wrote.

I said under the current ROE -- no change.

That's called a HYPOTHESIS.

It is the Same HYPOTHESIS you made yourself.

I quote you to yourself:

>We'll have to wait to see how the EULA reads when it's released, but
>it's a reasonable expectation that the rules will be the same as
>they are now. If so, the answer will be yes.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Nope, you misunderstood what I wrote.
>
> I said under the current ROE -- no change.
>
> That's called a HYPOTHESIS.
>
> It is the Same HYPOTHESIS you made yourself.
>
> I quote you to yourself:
>
>>We'll have to wait to see how the EULA reads when it's released, but
>>it's a reasonable expectation that the rules will be the same as
>>they are now. If so, the answer will be yes.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake.TakeThisOut@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:u%238U4PdJGHA.3492@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> [...]
How strange, the English language can be re-
Interpreted

to mean some thing else by so many people.
Joe

New Hypothesis:

Honest Citizen buys new computer with OEM Windows XP Pro installed.

She upgrades it to SP1, then to SP2 in 2005 and to SP3 in 2006.

She also installs many other bits and pieces of software from Microsoft and
other vendors and is smart enough to back up her entire hard disk with the
Windows XP Backup Program.

In June 2007 her computer goes belly up and is thenceforth only useful as a
door stop.

1. Will she be able to reinstall everything from her Windows XP backup,
including the OS, to a new computer in July 2007?

2. Will she be able to buy a COMMERCIAL upgrade version of Vista and
install it on said new computer?

If not, she is hosed.

DSH

DSH

As you like to mince words, here is something for you..

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Mince away, and quit trolling..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> New Hypothesis:
>
> Honest Citizen buys new computer with OEM Windows XP Pro installed.
>
> She upgrades it to SP1, then to SP2 in 2005 and to SP3 in 2006.
>
> She also installs many other bits and pieces of software from Microsoft
> and other vendors and is smart enough to back up her entire hard disk with
> the Windows XP Backup Program.
>
> In June 2007 her computer goes belly up and is thenceforth only useful as
> a door stop.
>
> 1. Will she be able to reinstall everything from her Windows XP backup,
> including the OS, to a new computer in July 2007?
>
> 2. Will she be able to buy a COMMERCIAL upgrade version of Vista and
> install it on said new computer?
>
> If not, she is hosed.
>
> DSH
>

It's always amusing to see people who are stumped and discombobulated cry:

"Troll!"

When they find themselves _in extremis_.

They seem to think "Troll!" is some sort of talisman that will ward off Evil
Spirits.

How Abysmally Ignorant Of Them.

DSH

As has been pointed out here before, the correct term for you is
"patronizing troll". We understand you have been accused of the same in
many other newsgroups.


"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's always amusing to see people who are stumped and discombobulated cry:
>
> "Troll!"
>
> When they find themselves _in extremis_.
>
> They seem to think "Troll!" is some sort of talisman that will ward off
> Evil Spirits.
>
> How Abysmally Ignorant Of Them.
>
> DSH
>

DSH

It is not a question of being stumped so much as no desire to get into a war
of words with somebody who is determined to antagonise..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u$hWL0fJGHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> It's always amusing to see people who are stumped and discombobulated cry:
>
> "Troll!"
>
> When they find themselves _in extremis_.
>
> They seem to think "Troll!" is some sort of talisman that will ward off
> Evil Spirits.
>
> How Abysmally Ignorant Of Them.
>
> DSH
>

Thank you.

But we seem to have some conflicting advice here.

My question had nothing to do with giving away or selling the old versions
of the MS software -- just using it on a new SINGLE computer when the first
one becomes a very expensive doorstop.

DSH

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch DeleteThis @nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23XsHRyfJGHA.3728@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> No. OEM versions of Windows have a unique license
> that is permentantly tied to the first computer it is installed
> and activated on. Besides, upgrading means the new license
> incorpoartes the orignal license used for the upgrade.
>
> Q.==> Can I sell or give away old versions of my software when I acquire
> an upgrade?
>
> A.==> No. Because the original full version software and the upgrade
> version software together are a single software program, you will
> need to retain the prior version in order to establish your eligibility
> for the upgrade license.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "D. Spencer Hines"wrote:
>
> | Millions of folks are now using OEM versions of Windows XP.
> |
> | When they eventually want to upgrade to Vista will they be able to buy a
> | commercial upgrade and then be able to port the Vista install to a NEW
> | computer when the first one craters?
> |
> | DSH

An OEM version of Windows is non-transferable to a different computer.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

It's always amusing to see people who are stumped and discombobulated cry:

"Troll!"

Or some equally silly variant...

When they find themselves _in extremis_.

They seem to think "Troll!" is some sort of talisman that will ward off
Evil Spirits.

How Abysmally Ignorant Of Them.

DSH