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Chris O

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Since: May 22, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:11 am
Post subject: New Sound Card Install Disables Graphics Card
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I've been installing sound cards for 15 years and never had a problem til
now. I'm running Win XP SP2 on Pent 4 3 Gig chip, a Gig of Mem, a GeForce
6800 GS OC 256MB graphics card in the AGP slot which was running fine with my
last sound card: a Creative Labs 5.1 capacity card, a dial up modem, and a
little card with an extra set of USB ports that are unused. So I still have
like 4 or 5 open PCI slots.

I bought a new 7.1 Creative Labs speaker system and had to get a 7.1
capacity card to run them: a Sound Blaster X-fi card.

When I installed the new sound card my graphics display went to absolute
garbage with a message showing "code 12 insufficient resouces" message. I
took the sound card back out, reinstalled my graphics card and it runs fine
again.

I guessed it was an IRQ issue and checked my BIOS and System Information
files. The BIOS had a curtailed listing of my system with all the IRQ
settings listed as "Auto".
This being the first time I have had to check an IRQ issue since I put this
computer together and seeing the "Auto" setting, I can only assume that Win
XP sets IRQs automatically, True?

In System Info it listed all the IRQs showing 2,3,4,5,7,10, 17,20, 21 as
unused with the listing going all the way to 23. I have been under the
impression for a very long time now that IRQs only go from 0-14. Did they add
additional IRQs with Win XP?

Should I reset my BIOS to "Manual" and reasign the IRQs? If so is there
rules of ordering them I should know?

Also, can anyone tell me, with all the open slots and extra IRQs showing,
why did the system force my graphics card to share time with my USB flight
sim controllers? It seems to me the last thing you would want is your
graphics card to have to share time with anything.
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Malke

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Since: Nov 11, 2005
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:30 am
Post subject: Re: New Sound Card Install Disables Graphics Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Chris O wrote:
> I've been installing sound cards for 15 years and never had a problem til
> now. I'm running Win XP SP2 on Pent 4 3 Gig chip, a Gig of Mem, a GeForce
> 6800 GS OC 256MB graphics card in the AGP slot which was running fine with my
> last sound card: a Creative Labs 5.1 capacity card, a dial up modem, and a
> little card with an extra set of USB ports that are unused. So I still have
> like 4 or 5 open PCI slots.
>
> I bought a new 7.1 Creative Labs speaker system and had to get a 7.1
> capacity card to run them: a Sound Blaster X-fi card.
>
> When I installed the new sound card my graphics display went to absolute
> garbage with a message showing "code 12 insufficient resouces" message. I
> took the sound card back out, reinstalled my graphics card and it runs fine
> again.
>
> I guessed it was an IRQ issue and checked my BIOS and System Information
> files. The BIOS had a curtailed listing of my system with all the IRQ
> settings listed as "Auto".
> This being the first time I have had to check an IRQ issue since I put this
> computer together and seeing the "Auto" setting, I can only assume that Win
> XP sets IRQs automatically, True?
>
> In System Info it listed all the IRQs showing 2,3,4,5,7,10, 17,20, 21 as
> unused with the listing going all the way to 23. I have been under the
> impression for a very long time now that IRQs only go from 0-14. Did they add
> additional IRQs with Win XP?
>
> Should I reset my BIOS to "Manual" and reasign the IRQs? If so is there
> rules of ordering them I should know?
>
> Also, can anyone tell me, with all the open slots and extra IRQs showing,
> why did the system force my graphics card to share time with my USB flight
> sim controllers? It seems to me the last thing you would want is your
> graphics card to have to share time with anything.

Refer to your motherboard manual for which PCI slots are the shared ones
and move the sound card to a non-shared slot. A rule of thumb is to
never install a sound card in the slot next to the AGP slot but your
motherboard manual will tell you precisely which ones are shared.


Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
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V Green

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Since: Nov 10, 2004
Posts: 41



(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:37 pm
Post subject: Re: New Sound Card Install Disables Graphics Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Chris O" <ChrisO RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:43922554-5B18-41EB-9A17-20D00C55AE90@microsoft.com...
> I've been installing sound cards for 15 years and never had a problem til
> now. I'm running Win XP SP2 on Pent 4 3 Gig chip, a Gig of Mem, a GeForce
> 6800 GS OC 256MB graphics card in the AGP slot which was running fine with my
> last sound card: a Creative Labs 5.1 capacity card, a dial up modem, and a
> little card with an extra set of USB ports that are unused. So I still have
> like 4 or 5 open PCI slots.
>
> I bought a new 7.1 Creative Labs speaker system and had to get a 7.1
> capacity card to run them: a Sound Blaster X-fi card.
>
> When I installed the new sound card my graphics display went to absolute
> garbage with a message showing "code 12 insufficient resouces" message. I
> took the sound card back out, reinstalled my graphics card and it runs fine
> again.
>
> I guessed it was an IRQ issue and checked my BIOS and System Information
> files. The BIOS had a curtailed listing of my system with all the IRQ
> settings listed as "Auto".
> This being the first time I have had to check an IRQ issue since I put this
> computer together and seeing the "Auto" setting, I can only assume that Win
> XP sets IRQs automatically, True?
>
> In System Info it listed all the IRQs showing 2,3,4,5,7,10, 17,20, 21 as
> unused with the listing going all the way to 23. I have been under the
> impression for a very long time now that IRQs only go from 0-14. Did they add
> additional IRQs with Win XP?
>
> Should I reset my BIOS to "Manual" and reasign the IRQs? If so is there
> rules of ordering them I should know?
>
> Also, can anyone tell me, with all the open slots and extra IRQs showing,
> why did the system force my graphics card to share time with my USB flight
> sim controllers? It seems to me the last thing you would want is your
> graphics card to have to share time with anything.

Save yourself a lot of grief and get rid of the Creative stuff.

They have had problems for years - I stopped using them when I
encountered the "PCI latency" problem with a Live! many years ago
and have never looked back.
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Chris O

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:57 am
Post subject: Re: New Sound Card Install Disables Graphics Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks Malke,
Not placing the sound card next to the AGP slot was told to me by Creative
Labs. I tried the card in 2 different slots with the same result. As for my
question about shared IRQs, the AGP slot is the only place I can put the
graphics card and what I want to do is get the USB stuff away from it. My
flight controllers are plugged into one of the USB slots coming off the
Mother Board itself so I think I need to manually reset them. How is that
done?

I'm running a Gigabyte mother board and I have found the manual is like in
Pigeon English with insufficient information in many areas so "precise" help
from that source is looking dim.

Can you tell me if this issue of "Auto" in regard to the IRQs settings in my
BIOS is Win. XP or is that an invention of Gigabyte(the mother board
supplier) and can anyone tell my why I have 23 IRQs discribed when all
references I've seen are from 0 to 15 ?

Thanks for the input V Green. I'm hoping that the Creative Labs 7.1
Speaker system is not the problem and so you are suggesting I just changing
out the sound card would be the better option. What do you suggest?

"Malke" wrote:

> Chris O wrote:
> > I've been installing sound cards for 15 years and never had a problem til
> > now. I'm running Win XP SP2 on Pent 4 3 Gig chip, a Gig of Mem, a GeForce
> > 6800 GS OC 256MB graphics card in the AGP slot which was running fine with my
> > last sound card: a Creative Labs 5.1 capacity card, a dial up modem, and a
> > little card with an extra set of USB ports that are unused. So I still have
> > like 4 or 5 open PCI slots.
> >
> > I bought a new 7.1 Creative Labs speaker system and had to get a 7.1
> > capacity card to run them: a Sound Blaster X-fi card.
> >
> > When I installed the new sound card my graphics display went to absolute
> > garbage with a message showing "code 12 insufficient resouces" message. I
> > took the sound card back out, reinstalled my graphics card and it runs fine
> > again.
> >
> > I guessed it was an IRQ issue and checked my BIOS and System Information
> > files. The BIOS had a curtailed listing of my system with all the IRQ
> > settings listed as "Auto".
> > This being the first time I have had to check an IRQ issue since I put this
> > computer together and seeing the "Auto" setting, I can only assume that Win
> > XP sets IRQs automatically, True?
> >
> > In System Info it listed all the IRQs showing 2,3,4,5,7,10, 17,20, 21 as
> > unused with the listing going all the way to 23. I have been under the
> > impression for a very long time now that IRQs only go from 0-14. Did they add
> > additional IRQs with Win XP?
> >
> > Should I reset my BIOS to "Manual" and reasign the IRQs? If so is there
> > rules of ordering them I should know?
> >
> > Also, can anyone tell me, with all the open slots and extra IRQs showing,
> > why did the system force my graphics card to share time with my USB flight
> > sim controllers? It seems to me the last thing you would want is your
> > graphics card to have to share time with anything.
>
> Refer to your motherboard manual for which PCI slots are the shared ones
> and move the sound card to a non-shared slot. A rule of thumb is to
> never install a sound card in the slot next to the AGP slot but your
> motherboard manual will tell you precisely which ones are shared.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
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V Green

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:31 pm
Post subject: Re: New Sound Card Install Disables Graphics Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Chris O" <ChrisO.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B66FE7F1-0F78-40F4-AE74-C6BC9ADC969E@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Malke,
> Not placing the sound card next to the AGP slot was told to me by Creative
> Labs. I tried the card in 2 different slots with the same result. As for my
> question about shared IRQs, the AGP slot is the only place I can put the
> graphics card and what I want to do is get the USB stuff away from it. My
> flight controllers are plugged into one of the USB slots coming off the
> Mother Board itself so I think I need to manually reset them. How is that
> done?
>
> I'm running a Gigabyte mother board and I have found the manual is like in
> Pigeon English with insufficient information in many areas so "precise" help
> from that source is looking dim.
>
> Can you tell me if this issue of "Auto" in regard to the IRQs settings in my
> BIOS is Win. XP or is that an invention of Gigabyte(the mother board
> supplier) and can anyone tell my why I have 23 IRQs discribed when all
> references I've seen are from 0 to 15 ?
>
> Thanks for the input V Green. I'm hoping that the Creative Labs 7.1
> Speaker system is not the problem and so you are suggesting I just changing
> out the sound card would be the better option. What do you suggest?

You should not have to jump through all these IRQ, etc.
hoops to get this thing to run. That's indicative of a badly written
driver, something that Creative specializes in.

Try a Turtle Beach card.

>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> > Chris O wrote:
> > > I've been installing sound cards for 15 years and never had a problem til
> > > now. I'm running Win XP SP2 on Pent 4 3 Gig chip, a Gig of Mem, a GeForce
> > > 6800 GS OC 256MB graphics card in the AGP slot which was running fine with
my
> > > last sound card: a Creative Labs 5.1 capacity card, a dial up modem, and a
> > > little card with an extra set of USB ports that are unused. So I still
have
> > > like 4 or 5 open PCI slots.
> > >
> > > I bought a new 7.1 Creative Labs speaker system and had to get a 7.1
> > > capacity card to run them: a Sound Blaster X-fi card.
> > >
> > > When I installed the new sound card my graphics display went to absolute
> > > garbage with a message showing "code 12 insufficient resouces" message. I
> > > took the sound card back out, reinstalled my graphics card and it runs
fine
> > > again.
> > >
> > > I guessed it was an IRQ issue and checked my BIOS and System Information
> > > files. The BIOS had a curtailed listing of my system with all the IRQ
> > > settings listed as "Auto".
> > > This being the first time I have had to check an IRQ issue since I put
this
> > > computer together and seeing the "Auto" setting, I can only assume that
Win
> > > XP sets IRQs automatically, True?
> > >
> > > In System Info it listed all the IRQs showing 2,3,4,5,7,10, 17,20, 21 as
> > > unused with the listing going all the way to 23. I have been under the
> > > impression for a very long time now that IRQs only go from 0-14. Did they
add
> > > additional IRQs with Win XP?
> > >
> > > Should I reset my BIOS to "Manual" and reasign the IRQs? If so is there
> > > rules of ordering them I should know?
> > >
> > > Also, can anyone tell me, with all the open slots and extra IRQs showing,
> > > why did the system force my graphics card to share time with my USB flight
> > > sim controllers? It seems to me the last thing you would want is your
> > > graphics card to have to share time with anything.
> >
> > Refer to your motherboard manual for which PCI slots are the shared ones
> > and move the sound card to a non-shared slot. A rule of thumb is to
> > never install a sound card in the slot next to the AGP slot but your
> > motherboard manual will tell you precisely which ones are shared.
> >
> >
> > Malke
> > --
> > Elephant Boy Computers
> > www.elephantboycomputers.com
> > "Don't Panic!"
> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >
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