Question about SP3 download size

From: "dairyman" <not_a_valid_email_address.DeleteThis@yahellsux.com.au>

| I have a question.
|
| After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3 RC2", I want to try it.
| But my connection is limited, which means if I exceed the data allowance, my connection
| will slow down. So, is there a way to get a smaller setup file for SP3?
|
| Thank you.

Unless you are a PAID Beta tester -- Don't!

Wait until it is formally released.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Try The Windows Update Method As Described On http://www.neowin.net/

P.S. Keep In Mind That This Is Still Beta Software, Just FYI.

"dairyman" <not_a_valid_email_address.DeleteThis@yahellsux.com.au> wrote in message
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>I have a question.
>
> After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3 RC2", I
> want to try it. But my connection is limited, which means if I exceed the
> data allowance, my connection will slow down. So, is there a way to get a
> smaller setup file for SP3?
>
> Thank you.

"dairyman" <not_a_valid_email_address DeleteThis @yahellsux.com.au> wrote in message
news:OAuvipBdIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I have a question.
>
> After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3 RC2", I want
> to try it. But my connection is limited, which means if I exceed the data
> allowance, my connection will slow down. So, is there a way to get a smaller
> setup file for SP3?
>
> Thank you.


Questions about SP3 should be posted to this forum.

Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=2010&SiteID=17

That said, the current release candidate of SP3 should only be installed on a
test system. If you want to roll the dice, be my guest. When you encounter
problems with your system, don't say you weren't warned.

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 2 via Windows Update
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114f3599-12af...b2-aab1

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"dairyman" wrote in message
news:OAuvipBdIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I have a question.
>
> After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3
> RC2", I want to try it. But my connection is limited, which means if
> I exceed the data allowance, my connection will slow down. So, is
> there a way to get a smaller setup file for SP3?


Service packs are cumulative. That means you get everything include
in prior service packs and all (or most) updates or patches after the
last service pack. There is no "incremental" service pack that
includes only the changes rolled up into that service pack that are
NOT included in prior service packs. Again, service packs are
cumulative. Each one has everything from before and new stuff, too.

So are you going to save an image of your hard disk partition(s) to
ensure that you can remove SP-3 when you do find problems? Are you
going to test the service pack within a virtual machine? Or are you
looking forward to reformatting the partition(s) and doing a fresh
install of the OS during which your computer is unusable until you
reinstall all your applications, too, and then go through all that
configuration and tweaking again?

Testing Beta's Is Fun, I Plan 2 Test It Later Tonight Using Microsoft
Virtual PC 2007, In Order 2 Install It On Top Of My Existing Windows Vista
Service Pack 1 Enterprise Edition RTM Installation, Just FYI.

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "dairyman" <not_a_valid_email_address RemoveThis @yahellsux.com.au>
>
> | I have a question.
> |
> | After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3 RC2",
> I want to try it.
> | But my connection is limited, which means if I exceed the data
> allowance, my connection
> | will slow down. So, is there a way to get a smaller setup file for SP3?
> |
> | Thank you.
>
> Unless you are a PAID Beta tester -- Don't!
>
> Wait until it is formally released.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
>

Sorry, Patrick, but that is not true. The file downloaded for RC2 (which
went on the public site yesterday) is only a herald file and changes a
registry key so that the upgrade can be offered by WU. Then WU will
download only what the user requires. On an SP2 system that is fully
patched to date the download will be about 65MB. On an SP1 system that has
never been patched the download will be 300+ MB.

"Patrick Keenan" <test.RemoveThis@dev.null> wrote in message
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> "dairyman" <not_a_valid_email_address.RemoveThis@yahellsux.com.au> wrote in message
> news:OAuvipBdIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I have a question.
>>
>> After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3 RC2", I
>> want to try it. But my connection is limited, which means if I exceed the
>> data allowance, my connection will slow down. So, is there a way to get a
>> smaller setup file for SP3?
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> This isn't the place to ask, but the answer is almost certainly no. It
> won't be on the Windows Update servers till after it's gone gold, so the
> only option is the full file.
>
> If you want it, find another system that doesn't have a limited
> connection, perhaps a friend in an office or an internet cafe, and burn it
> to CD. You can then share this CD with others who want to try this
> pre-release version, and accept the risks.
>
> You will likely also have to remove it prior to installing the "gold"
> release version.
>
> HTH
> -pk

Bad information, not researched. MS is distributing a registry patch that
you run and the sp3 express install shows up in WU.

"Patrick Keenan" <test.TakeThisOut@dev.null> wrote in message
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> "dairyman" <not_a_valid_email_address.TakeThisOut@yahellsux.com.au> wrote in message
> news:OAuvipBdIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I have a question.
>>
>> After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3 RC2", I
>> want to try it. But my connection is limited, which means if I exceed the
>> data allowance, my connection will slow down. So, is there a way to get a
>> smaller setup file for SP3?
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> This isn't the place to ask, but the answer is almost certainly no. It
> won't be on the Windows Update servers till after it's gone gold, so the
> only option is the full file.
>
> If you want it, find another system that doesn't have a limited
> connection, perhaps a friend in an office or an internet cafe, and burn it
> to CD. You can then share this CD with others who want to try this
> pre-release version, and accept the risks.
>
> You will likely also have to remove it prior to installing the "gold"
> release version.
>
> HTH
> -pk

From: <kevpan815.DeleteThis@nospam.hotmail.com>

| Testing Beta's Is Fun, I Plan 2 Test It Later Tonight Using Microsoft
| Virtual PC 2007, In Order 2 Install It On Top Of My Existing Windows Vista
| Service Pack 1 Enterprise Edition RTM Installation, Just FYI.
|

Beta testing of Microsoft software should ONLY be performed by paid Beta Testers.

Beta testing should ONLY be performed on non-production computers and should NEVER be
performed by the casual PC user based upon the Chaos and Complex Systems in a Computing
Platform postulate.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: <kevpan815 DeleteThis @nospam.hotmail.com>
>
> | Testing Beta's Is Fun, I Plan 2 Test It Later Tonight Using Microsoft
> | Virtual PC 2007, In Order 2 Install It On Top Of My Existing Windows
> Vista
> | Service Pack 1 Enterprise Edition RTM Installation, Just FYI.
> |
>
> Beta testing of Microsoft software should ONLY be performed by paid Beta
> Testers.

Who are you to make these rules? RC2 is public and available for everyone.

>
> Beta testing should ONLY be performed on non-production computers and
> should NEVER be
> performed by the casual PC user based upon the Chaos and Complex Systems
> in a Computing
> Platform postulate.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
>

Patrick Keenan wrote:
> "dairyman" <not_a_valid_email_address.RemoveThis@yahellsux.com.au> wrote in message
> news:OAuvipBdIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I have a question.
>>
>> After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3
>> RC2", I want to try it. But my connection is limited, which means if I
>> exceed the data allowance, my connection will slow down. So, is there
>> a way to get a smaller setup file for SP3?
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> This isn't the place to ask, but the answer is almost certainly no. It
> won't be on the Windows Update servers till after it's gone gold, so the
> only option is the full file.
>
> If you want it, find another system that doesn't have a limited
> connection, perhaps a friend in an office or an internet cafe, and burn
> it to CD. You can then share this CD with others who want to try this
> pre-release version, and accept the risks.
>
> You will likely also have to remove it prior to installing the "gold"
> release version.
>
> HTH
> -pk

Alright. Thanks!

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:13:22 +1030, dairyman
<not_a_valid_email_address.RemoveThis@yahellsux.com.au> wrote:

>I have a question.
>
>After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3 RC2", I want to try it.
>But my connection is limited, which means if I exceed the data allowance, my connection will
>slow down. So, is there a way to get a smaller setup file for SP3?
>
>Thank you.

Why ask HERE? You are asking about unsupported, unreleased, not fully
tested BETA software. It is off topic HERE so take this elsewhere

If you are up-to-date on your Microsoft updates, the download is less than
60MB.

PABear has suggested you can get a SP3 CD when SP3 is publicly released. It
isn't F-R-E-E (There's a S/H charge) but the fees are probably nominal.

As far as the "net nannies" blathering on about what can or cannot be
discussed here - disregard them.

This is a public newsgroup about WindowsXP for general questions. If it is
beta software, download at your own risk.


"PaulMaudib" <none RemoveThis @none.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:13:22 +1030, dairyman
> <not_a_valid_email_address RemoveThis @yahellsux.com.au> wrote:
>
>>I have a question.
>>
>>After reading some overheated puff about this new "Windows XP SP3 RC2", I
>>want to try it.
>>But my connection is limited, which means if I exceed the data allowance,
>>my connection will
>>slow down. So, is there a way to get a smaller setup file for SP3?
>>
>>Thank you.
>
> Why ask HERE? You are asking about unsupported, unreleased, not fully
> tested BETA software. It is off topic HERE so take this elsewhere
>

From: "Webster" <somewhere RemoveThis @yahoo.com>

| If you are up-to-date on your Microsoft updates, the download is less than
| 60MB.
|
| PABear has suggested you can get a SP3 CD when SP3 is publicly released. It
| isn't F-R-E-E (There's a S/H charge) but the fees are probably nominal.
|
| As far as the "net nannies" blathering on about what can or cannot be
| discussed here - disregard them.
|
| This is a public newsgroup about WindowsXP for general questions. If it is
| beta software, download at your own risk.
|

Just like there was an administrative update for SP2 (EXE file ~260MB) that is available as
a download I will wait until there is an administrative update for SP3 (expected ~310MB).

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp