Black shut down screen

I think you lost me. Apparently you're talking about downloading something
and running it. What is "online" about that?

Does "online" no longer mean "connected to the web?"

JimL

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:OMwoeLmBKHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> Download page:
> http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
>
> Install, run and then click on the 'SMART' tab.
> From the Hard disk pulldown list pick your hard drive.
> Just below the Model # are the words:
> "Perform an in dept online analysis ....." click on this button
> and you should see your drive results.

Yes, SpeedFan will read your hard drives SMART values
and then allow you to connect (the online part) to their web
site to compare your drive SMART values against data
they have collected for the same make and model as your drive.

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"JimL" <inkleput.TakeThisOut@isp.com> wrote in message
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>I think you lost me. Apparently you're talking about downloading something
>and running it. What is "online" about that?
>
> Does "online" no longer mean "connected to the web?"
>
> JimL
>
> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:OMwoeLmBKHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Download page:
>> http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
>>
>> Install, run and then click on the 'SMART' tab.
>> From the Hard disk pulldown list pick your hard drive.
>> Just below the Model # are the words:
>> "Perform an in dept online analysis ....." click on this button
>> and you should see your drive results.
>
>
>

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:uM%23JThOBKHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?FamilyID=1b286e6d-8912...18-b570


Someone "a long way from here" suggested I might be low on disk space. I
have 9 gb on my system partition. Could anything about shutdown need more
than that to do a qhick shutdown? Of course there's the 1 gb HiPileIt.sys
file (or something like that) for starters. Let's see if I can find the
right name. ... Oops, hiberfil.sys. I was noticing that my hard drive is
going full tilt for that whole 5 minutes. Does that sound like a bunch of
file swapping going on?

I could move some stuff around and expand C: if it would do any good.

--
JimL

Is that 9GB the total size of the partition
or is it 9GB of free space?

Either way what is the size of your system partition?

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"JimL" <inkleput RemoveThis @isp.com> wrote in message
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> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:uM%23JThOBKHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?FamilyID=1b286e6d-8912...18-b570
>
>
> Someone "a long way from here" suggested I might be low on disk space. I
> have 9 gb on my system partition. Could anything about shutdown need more
> than that to do a qhick shutdown? Of course there's the 1 gb HiPileIt.sys
> file (or something like that) for starters. Let's see if I can find the
> right name. ... Oops, hiberfil.sys. I was noticing that my hard drive is
> going full tilt for that whole 5 minutes. Does that sound like a bunch of
> file swapping going on?
>
> I could move some stuff around and expand C: if it would do any good.
>
> --
> JimL
>
>
>

9 gb free.

The system partition is 22.5 gb. 13 something in use.

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:O8U2clCCKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Is that 9GB the total size of the partition
> or is it 9GB of free space?
>
> Either way what is the size of your system partition?
>
> --
> JS
> http://www.pagestart.com
>
>
>
> "JimL" <inkleput.DeleteThis@isp.com> wrote in message
> news:306f8$4a629861$c4db828$32135@DIALUPUSA.NET...
>> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:uM%23JThOBKHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?FamilyID=1b286e6d-8912...18-b570
>>
>>
>> Someone "a long way from here" suggested I might be low on disk space. I
>> have 9 gb on my system partition. Could anything about shutdown need
>> more than that to do a qhick shutdown? Of course there's the 1 gb
>> HiPileIt.sys file (or something like that) for starters. Let's see if I
>> can find the right name. ... Oops, hiberfil.sys. I was noticing that my
>> hard drive is going full tilt for that whole 5 minutes. Does that sound
>> like a bunch of file swapping going on?
>>
>> I could move some stuff around and expand C: if it would do any good.
>>
>> --
>> JimL
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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JimL wrote:
> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:uM%23JThOBKHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?FamilyID=1b286e6d-8912...18-b570
>
>
> Someone "a long way from here" suggested I might be low on disk space. I
> have 9 gb on my system partition. Could anything about shutdown need more
> than that to do a qhick shutdown? Of course there's the 1 gb HiPileIt.sys
> file (or something like that) for starters. Let's see if I can find the
> right name. ... Oops, hiberfil.sys. I was noticing that my hard drive is
> going full tilt for that whole 5 minutes. Does that sound like a bunch of
> file swapping going on?
>
> I could move some stuff around and expand C: if it would do any good.

That hiberfil.sys is what's created when you put the pc into
hibernation. You'd think that once you came out of hibernation that it
would delete the file, but alas it doesn't.

--

Roy Smith
Windows XP Pro SP3

Your still OK on disk space.

Full Tilt drive activity:
Find a process that could be the cause - Process Explorer:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

You mentioned drive has bad blocks, did you check the SMART values?

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"JimL" <inkleput RemoveThis @isp.com> wrote in message
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>9 gb free.
>
> The system partition is 22.5 gb. 13 something in use.
>
> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:O8U2clCCKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Is that 9GB the total size of the partition
>> or is it 9GB of free space?
>>
>> Either way what is the size of your system partition?
>>
>> --
>> JS
>> http://www.pagestart.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "JimL" <inkleput RemoveThis @isp.com> wrote in message
>> news:306f8$4a629861$c4db828$32135@DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>> "JS" <@> wrote in message
>>> news:uM%23JThOBKHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?FamilyID=1b286e6d-8912...18-b570
>>>
>>>
>>> Someone "a long way from here" suggested I might be low on disk space.
>>> I have 9 gb on my system partition. Could anything about shutdown need
>>> more than that to do a qhick shutdown? Of course there's the 1 gb
>>> HiPileIt.sys file (or something like that) for starters. Let's see if I
>>> can find the right name. ... Oops, hiberfil.sys. I was noticing that
>>> my hard drive is going full tilt for that whole 5 minutes. Does that
>>> sound like a bunch of file swapping going on?
>>>
>>> I could move some stuff around and expand C: if it would do any good.
>>>
>>> --
>>> JimL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> JimL
>
>
>

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:ufbXxMHCKHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Full Tilt drive activity:
> Find a process that could be the cause - Process Explorer:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
>

On it.

> You mentioned drive has bad blocks, did you check the SMART values?

First thing off. Which makes me doubt either SMART or whatever is reporting
the errors knows what it's doing. (BTW, the block errors haven't appeared
for two days.) I haven't found an actual sector checker that doesn't
promise to screw around doing automatic repairs. I'll permit that either
when hell freezes over or when someone guarantees on pain of death that my
system will be intact when it's done. I'd just like to see an actual
report -graphic, pseudo-graphic or whatever - of what's bad.

(Well, I found a couple such utilities, but they both demanded that they be
connected to the internet while doing the testing - whereupon I deleted them
from my system. What the @#$% does a sector checker need to be connected to
the internet for? Other than downloading malware?)

I can't make much sense of most SMART data, but one utility showed 3 Good
ratings and the rest Very Good. Another one merely shows OK on all values.

OH, it _does_ predict that my spin up time should exceed proper limits in
April 2017!!!

Thanks

--
JimL

"Roy Smith" <rasmith1959.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uSKQP8GCKHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> That hiberfil.sys is what's created when you put the pc into
> hibernation. You'd think that once you came out of hibernation that it
> would delete the file, but

So I've been told, but I found instructions on how to delete it (after
turning off the process in registry). Upon restoring the process later it
built a new copy immediately upon boot. Blame it on the Bossa Nova. (Are
you old enough to have ever heard that song?)

> alas it doesn't.

Alas? I see you're a grand master of understatement!

--
JimL

Disk Diagnostic Utilities from:

Western Digital's Data LifeGuard Diagnostics
http://support.wdc.com/download/?cxml=n&pid=999&swid=3

Seagate's SeaTools
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools

Maxtor (Now Seagate SeaTools)
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=SeaTools&vgnex...d=720bd

Fujitsu's Utilities
http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/storage/hdd/support/utilities.html

Samsung's Disk manager software
http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/shdiag.htm

Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test software
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT

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http://www.pagestart.com



"JimL" <inkleput RemoveThis @isp.com> wrote in message
news:87cf7$4a634cca$c4db853$29970@DIALUPUSA.NET...
> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:ufbXxMHCKHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Full Tilt drive activity:
>> Find a process that could be the cause - Process Explorer:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx
>>
>
> On it.
>
>> You mentioned drive has bad blocks, did you check the SMART values?
>
> First thing off. Which makes me doubt either SMART or whatever is
> reporting the errors knows what it's doing. (BTW, the block errors
> haven't appeared for two days.) I haven't found an actual sector checker
> that doesn't promise to screw around doing automatic repairs. I'll permit
> that either when hell freezes over or when someone guarantees on pain of
> death that my system will be intact when it's done. I'd just like to see
> an actual report -graphic, pseudo-graphic or whatever - of what's bad.
>
> (Well, I found a couple such utilities, but they both demanded that they
> be connected to the internet while doing the testing - whereupon I deleted
> them from my system. What the @#$% does a sector checker need to be
> connected to the internet for? Other than downloading malware?)
>
> I can't make much sense of most SMART data, but one utility showed 3 Good
> ratings and the rest Very Good. Another one merely shows OK on all
> values.
>
> OH, it _does_ predict that my spin up time should exceed proper limits in
> April 2017!!!
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> JimL
>
>
>

Thanks. I guess I should have elaborated on the sector checking issue.

This drive is Hitachi. I found a DFT EXE which was nothing more than a
SMART reader that gives you less than a generic SMART reader I have.
Instructions say you have to use their diskette based boot utility (that may
or may not check sectors), but I have no floppy drive. (While he's changing
the world Obama should outlaw diskettes.) Upon query they said you _can_
use a boot CD instead.

There again - I can't get my CD burner to work (see coming post).

Thanks. You have been very helpful in all this.

JimL

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23r35FwJCKHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> Disk Diagnostic Utilities from:
>
> Western Digital's Data LifeGuard Diagnostics
> http://support.wdc.com/download/?cxml=n&pid=999&swid=3
>
> Seagate's SeaTools
> http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools
>
> Maxtor (Now Seagate SeaTools)
> http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=SeaTools&vgnex...d=720bd
>
> Fujitsu's Utilities
> http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/storage/hdd/support/utilities.html
>
> Samsung's Disk manager software
> http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/shdiag.htm
>
> Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test software
> http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT
>
> --
> JS
> http://www.pagestart.com

Active Hard Disk Monitor
http://www.disk-monitor.com/

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http://www.pagestart.com



"JimL" <inkleput.DeleteThis@isp.com> wrote in message
news:47c68$4a638532$c4db8d7$26380@DIALUPUSA.NET...
> Thanks. I guess I should have elaborated on the sector checking issue.
>
> This drive is Hitachi. I found a DFT EXE which was nothing more than a
> SMART reader that gives you less than a generic SMART reader I have.
> Instructions say you have to use their diskette based boot utility (that
> may or may not check sectors), but I have no floppy drive. (While he's
> changing the world Obama should outlaw diskettes.) Upon query they said
> you _can_ use a boot CD instead.
>
> There again - I can't get my CD burner to work (see coming post).
>
> Thanks. You have been very helpful in all this.
>
> JimL
>
> "JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23r35FwJCKHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Disk Diagnostic Utilities from:
>>
>> Western Digital's Data LifeGuard Diagnostics
>> http://support.wdc.com/download/?cxml=n&pid=999&swid=3
>>
>> Seagate's SeaTools
>> http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools
>>
>> Maxtor (Now Seagate SeaTools)
>> http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=SeaTools&vgnex...d=720bd
>>
>> Fujitsu's Utilities
>> http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/storage/hdd/support/utilities.html
>>
>> Samsung's Disk manager software
>> http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/shdiag.htm
>>
>> Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test software
>> http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT
>>
>> --
>> JS
>> http://www.pagestart.com
>
>

"JS" <@> wrote in message news:%23TUBY0hBKHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

2) Find and display a Process that could be the cause try Process Explorer:

<snip>

> Then mouse over the process that's using most or all the CPU %.

Perhaps I'm missing a point, but this item looks to be pretty central and it
doesn't seem to take into consideration the fact that the 5 minute delay and
its attendant disk thrashing start after XP is 99% shut down. CPU useage is
minimal during the pre-shutdown lull.

It does occur to me that I may be able, one at a time, to shut down this or
that process prior to shutdown and see if killing it stops the nonsense.

Thanks

--
JimL