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Since: Aug 01, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:14 am
Post subject: Back up
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I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a re-installation
DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double clicking
the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
where I might be going wrong, please.
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Ken Blake, MVP

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:51 am
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:14:08 -0700, p <p DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

> I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a re-installation
> DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
> instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double clicking
> the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
> where I might be going wrong, please.


You're not going wrong at all. Dell apparently didn't include the
file. However you can download ntbackup.msi at
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi

But be aware that as backup software goes, this is probably the
*worst* available choice. I strongly suggest that you investigate a
third-party choice like my personal favorite, Acronis True Image.



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Harry Ohrn

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Since: Sep 21, 2004
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:29 pm
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The NTBackup program is a highly stripped down version of a program called
Backup MyPC which originated with Veritas then went to Stomp Inc and is now
distributed through Roxio. No loss for you not having it as the NTBackup
program cannot burn directly to CD or DVD anyway. You have to save the file
to a billion floppies, or to a tape drive or hard drive first and then burn
the backup to disc. The NTBackup program that ships with Windows is for the
most part useless to home users. In addition to not being able to burn
directly to CD or DVD it can not split large files it creates into smaller
chunks so you can manually span a file across multiple CD's, it cannot
create an Automated System Recovery backup to recover your system state and
it is not backward compatible with earlier version of the same program.
Little wonder some OEM's choose to not include it. You'd be better off with
a decent backup program like the full version of Backup MyPC or a program
like Acronis TrueImage. These can backup to optical media, can span disc,
can create full system restore images and can be scheduled. Yes they cost a
few dollars but isn't your backups worth the cost?

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Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"p" <p DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:395F464D-4C0B-44FC-BEF9-F973A8A120C0@microsoft.com...
>I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a
>re-installation
> DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
> instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double
> clicking
> the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
> where I might be going wrong, please.
> --
> p
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:29 pm
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Thanks Harry,

You're right, it's worth a few dollars (in my case £'s)

Thanks again,
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p


"Harry Ohrn" wrote:

> The NTBackup program is a highly stripped down version of a program called
> Backup MyPC which originated with Veritas then went to Stomp Inc and is now
> distributed through Roxio. No loss for you not having it as the NTBackup
> program cannot burn directly to CD or DVD anyway. You have to save the file
> to a billion floppies, or to a tape drive or hard drive first and then burn
> the backup to disc. The NTBackup program that ships with Windows is for the
> most part useless to home users. In addition to not being able to burn
> directly to CD or DVD it can not split large files it creates into smaller
> chunks so you can manually span a file across multiple CD's, it cannot
> create an Automated System Recovery backup to recover your system state and
> it is not backward compatible with earlier version of the same program.
> Little wonder some OEM's choose to not include it. You'd be better off with
> a decent backup program like the full version of Backup MyPC or a program
> like Acronis TrueImage. These can backup to optical media, can span disc,
> can create full system restore images and can be scheduled. Yes they cost a
> few dollars but isn't your backups worth the cost?
>
> --
>
>
> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>
>
> "p" <p DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:395F464D-4C0B-44FC-BEF9-F973A8A120C0@microsoft.com...
> >I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a
> >re-installation
> > DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
> > instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double
> > clicking
> > the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
> > where I might be going wrong, please.
> > --
> > p
>
>
>
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John Barnett MVP

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Since: Oct 11, 2004
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:12 pm
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Most probable is that Dell have left the backup application off the
re-installation disk. Some manufacturer's do this and, instead, post the
NTbackup.exe file on their support website. The file isn't particularly
large, so check the Dell support site first. If you can't find it on the
Dell support site then visit my website http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Click the Contact Me tab and email me using the email address on the webpage
and I will send you the file. Please put "NTBackup File Request" in the
subject line of your email otherwise my spam filter will automatically
delete it.

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Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"p" <p.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:395F464D-4C0B-44FC-BEF9-F973A8A120C0@microsoft.com...
>I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a
>re-installation
> DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
> instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double
> clicking
> the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
> where I might be going wrong, please.
> --
> p
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:12 pm
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John,

Thanks very much.

I'll start with Dell and if there's no joy, I'll go to your site.

Thanks again,
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p


"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

> Most probable is that Dell have left the backup application off the
> re-installation disk. Some manufacturer's do this and, instead, post the
> NTbackup.exe file on their support website. The file isn't particularly
> large, so check the Dell support site first. If you can't find it on the
> Dell support site then visit my website http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Click the Contact Me tab and email me using the email address on the webpage
> and I will send you the file. Please put "NTBackup File Request" in the
> subject line of your email otherwise my spam filter will automatically
> delete it.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
> "p" <p DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:395F464D-4C0B-44FC-BEF9-F973A8A120C0@microsoft.com...
> >I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a
> >re-installation
> > DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
> > instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double
> > clicking
> > the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any suggestions
> > where I might be going wrong, please.
> > --
> > p
>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:24 am
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Acronis can be had on Amazon at a very good price (£)

"p" <p.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:24EC9ECB-9CC2-445D-A753-2A19D0A8FA67@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Harry,
>
> You're right, it's worth a few dollars (in my case £'s)
>
> Thanks again,
> --
> p
>
>
> "Harry Ohrn" wrote:
>
>> The NTBackup program is a highly stripped down version of a program
>> called
>> Backup MyPC which originated with Veritas then went to Stomp Inc and is
>> now
>> distributed through Roxio. No loss for you not having it as the NTBackup
>> program cannot burn directly to CD or DVD anyway. You have to save the
>> file
>> to a billion floppies, or to a tape drive or hard drive first and then
>> burn
>> the backup to disc. The NTBackup program that ships with Windows is for
>> the
>> most part useless to home users. In addition to not being able to burn
>> directly to CD or DVD it can not split large files it creates into
>> smaller
>> chunks so you can manually span a file across multiple CD's, it cannot
>> create an Automated System Recovery backup to recover your system state
>> and
>> it is not backward compatible with earlier version of the same program.
>> Little wonder some OEM's choose to not include it. You'd be better off
>> with
>> a decent backup program like the full version of Backup MyPC or a program
>> like Acronis TrueImage. These can backup to optical media, can span disc,
>> can create full system restore images and can be scheduled. Yes they cost
>> a
>> few dollars but isn't your backups worth the cost?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
>> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>>
>>
>> "p" <p.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:395F464D-4C0B-44FC-BEF9-F973A8A120C0@microsoft.com...
>> >I have XP Home pre-installed by Dell. I also have from Dell a
>> >re-installation
>> > DVD. Unfortunately, I cannot back-up data onto a CD. I follow the
>> > instructions to add the utility and all goes well as far as double
>> > clicking
>> > the Valueadd folder and then Msft but no Ntbackup appears. Any
>> > suggestions
>> > where I might be going wrong, please.
>> > --
>> > p
>>
>>
>>
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