Accessing This Group without a NewsReader..?

achoo wrote:
> Hi,
> My friend has finally got on the net using one of those usb-wireless
> modems.
> The company he uses doesnt have a server, so he cant even use Outlook
> Express. (I tried setting it up for him supplying the same details that
> I use;(not My actual details) he is not too computer literate.)
>
> What can he do to get access to this and other groups on the microsoft
> server? Is there a browser way-in? (he has FireFox)
>
> Xp home, SP2, fully patched.
>
> Thanks

I can see the WinXP General and Hardware groups here. This is the
web way to the groups.

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=...rosoft.

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=...rosoft.

*******

For a free news server, you can use aioe.org .
It allows posting of a limited number of text messages
per day, and has no authentication requirement. There
are a few other free news servers, where you have to set
up an account. You don't have to sign up or anything, to
use this. Binaries here are not supported. This isn't a site
for movie downloading or anything.

http://www.aioe.org/

nntp.aioe.org port 119 and others (I use port 119)

The AIOE server has some restrictions, on posted content.
You can't post the exact same message twice, because the
server compares the article checksum against previous
articles. You can't place too long a line in your posting.
Crossposting is limited as well.

If an article you post on AIOE is rejected, be careful to
edit the message and change at least one character in it,
so the message will not be rejected a second time because
it is identical to the previous one.

Paul

"achoo" <sneezy RemoveThis @cold.com> wrote in message
news:OPwDBZEwKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> My friend has finally got on the net using one of those usb-wireless
> modems.
> The company he uses doesnt have a server, so he cant even use Outlook
> Express.

I don't understand that statement.
The News server that this group is on is entirely independent of any ISP.


Setting up Outlook Express/Windows Mail/Windows Live Mail to access
Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express/Windows Mail/Windows Live
Mail Newsreader
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx

On 10 Mar, 11:55, "Gordon" <gordonbpar....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "achoo" <sne....DeleteThis@cold.com> wrote in message
>
> news:OPwDBZEwKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> > Hi,
> > My friend has finally got on the net using one of those usb-wireless
> > modems.
> > The company he uses doesnt have a server, so he cant even use Outlook
> > Express.
>
> I don't understand that statement.
> The News server that this group is on is entirely independent of any ISP.
>
> Setting up Outlook Express/Windows Mail/Windows Live Mail to access
> Microsoft newsgroupshttp://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
>
> Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express/Windows Mail/Windows Live
> Mail Newsreaderhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx

What's wrong with what I do.... Just go to Google groups and pretty
well all of them are there!

"achoo" <sneezy RemoveThis @cold.com> wrote in message
news:OPwDBZEwKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > snip
>
> Xp home, SP2, fully patched.

Your question has been answered in the other replies.

XP Home with SP2 is NOT "fully patched". Support for XP at the SP2
level ends on July 13 of this year....four months from now. After that
date, there will be no updates available for XP at that SP level, so
that computer will not receive any patches.

Unless it is updated to SP3, it will be open to any vulnerabilities
patched after that date.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

"Paul" <nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com> wrote in message
news:hn820p$2fs$2@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> For a free news server, you can use aioe.org .
> It allows posting of a limited number of text messages
> per day, and has no authentication requirement.

If the OP wants THIS group then he can subscribe direct to the MS news
server. No restrictions on numbers of posts per day there...

"Pete L" <peterlavington RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 10 Mar, 11:55, "Gordon" <gordonbpar... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "achoo" <sne... RemoveThis @cold.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:OPwDBZEwKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > My friend has finally got on the net using one of those usb-wireless
>> > modems.
>> > The company he uses doesnt have a server, so he cant even use Outlook
>> > Express.
>>
>> I don't understand that statement.
>> The News server that this group is on is entirely independent of any ISP.
>>
>> Setting up Outlook Express/Windows Mail/Windows Live Mail to access
>> Microsoft
>> newsgroupshttp://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
>>
>> Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express/Windows Mail/Windows Live
>> Mail
>> Newsreaderhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx
>
> What's wrong with what I do.... Just go to Google groups and pretty
> well all of them are there!

Many people block posters using Googlegroups because of spam and mostly
sheer idiocy.

If he's running WinXP, he's got a newsreader (Outlook Express) and can
access the MS newsgroups via the free MS newsserver:

Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Or he can access the MS newsgroups via the clunky, unreliable web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx

Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After that
date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any further
critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows
Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

achoo wrote:
> Hi,
> My friend has finally got on the net using one of those usb-wireless
> modems.
> The company he uses doesnt have a server, so he cant even use Outlook
> Express. (I tried setting it up for him supplying the same details that
> I use;(not My actual details) he is not too computer literate.)
>
> What can he do to get access to this and other groups on the microsoft
> server? Is there a browser way-in? (he has FireFox)
>
> Xp home, SP2, fully patched.
>
> Thanks

From: "Gordon" <gordonbparker DeleteThis @yahoo.com>

| Many people block posters using Googlegroups because of spam and mostly
| sheer idiocy.


Y E S !

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> If he's running WinXP, he's got a newsreader (Outlook Express) and can
> access the MS newsgroups via the free MS newsserver:
>
> Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
>
> Or he can access the MS newsgroups via the clunky, unreliable
> web-interface:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx
>
> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After
> that date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any
> further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and
> Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.
>
> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?:
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean
>

Thank to all replies, I have read them all including the ones under this
this post. (last one being leythos.)

If it is so, that he can use outlook, or any reader for that matter,
then it must have been me at fault when I tried to set-up the MS server
for him. Did manage to get to the Finish of adding this server, and it
did start to load the groups, but an error occured somewhere, then it
ceased. I will try again for him on next visit, then post back with
results. (Just one thing, what should I put in the field 'nntp' when
setting it up? I may have made an error there. Have never worked with
an i.s.p that doesnt have a server.)

Thanks

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> If he's running WinXP, he's got a newsreader (Outlook Express) and can
> access the MS newsgroups via the free MS newsserver:
>
> Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
>
> Or he can access the MS newsgroups via the clunky, unreliable
> web-interface:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx
>
> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After
> that date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any
> further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and
> Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.
>
> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?:
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean
>




Hi,

I forgot to mention that I set up a Gmail account for him, in case that
is relevant to anything.

Thanks

achoo wrote:
<snip>
> If it is so, that he can use outlook...

Careful: Outlook and Outlook Express are not the same application! The
latter includes a newsreader; the former does not.

"achoo" <sneezy.DeleteThis@cold.com> wrote in message
news:%23ftANHMwKHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> If he's running WinXP, he's got a newsreader (Outlook Express) and
>> can access the MS newsgroups via the free MS newsserver:
>>
>> Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
>>
>> Or he can access the MS newsgroups via the clunky, unreliable
>> web-interface:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx
>>
>> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010.
>> After that date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be
>> offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will
>> not work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3
>> is installed.
>>
>> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?:
>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean
>
> Thank to all replies, I have read them all including the ones under
> this this post. (last one being leythos.)
>
> If it is so, that he can use outlook, or any reader for that matter,
> then it must have been me at fault when I tried to set-up the MS
> server for him. Did manage to get to the Finish of adding this server,
> and it did start to load the groups, but an error occured somewhere,
> then it ceased. I will try again for him on next visit, then post
> back with results. (Just one thing, what should I put in the field
> 'nntp' when setting it up? I may have made an error there. Have
> never worked with an i.s.p that doesnt have a server.)

Outlook Express....NOT Outlook.
The NNTP server is msnews.microsoft.com
It does not require the user to log on, so leave that box unchecked
during account setup.
Be sure to enter a fake email address or you will end up with a mailbox
full of spam.

You say an error occurred when downloading groups...what error? Provide
all error messages word for word.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

glee wrote:
> "achoo" <sneezy.TakeThisOut@cold.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ftANHMwKHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>> If he's running WinXP, he's got a newsreader (Outlook Express) and
>>> can access the MS newsgroups via the free MS newsserver:
>>>
>>> Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups
>>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
>>>
>>> Or he can access the MS newsgroups via the clunky, unreliable
>>> web-interface:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx
>>>
>>> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010.
>>> After that date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be
>>> offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will
>>> not work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3
>>> is installed.
>>>
>>> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?:
>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean
>>>
>>
>> Thank to all replies, I have read them all including the ones under
>> this this post. (last one being leythos.)
>>
>> If it is so, that he can use outlook, or any reader for that matter,
>> then it must have been me at fault when I tried to set-up the MS
>> server for him. Did manage to get to the Finish of adding this server,
>> and it did start to load the groups, but an error occured somewhere,
>> then it ceased. I will try again for him on next visit, then post
>> back with results. (Just one thing, what should I put in the field
>> 'nntp' when setting it up? I may have made an error there. Have
>> never worked with an i.s.p that doesnt have a server.)
>
> Outlook Express....NOT Outlook.
> The NNTP server is msnews.microsoft.com
> It does not require the user to log on, so leave that box unchecked
> during account setup.
> Be sure to enter a fake email address or you will end up with a mailbox
> full of spam.
>
> You say an error occurred when downloading groups...what error? Provide
> all error messages word for word.
---------------

Yes, I did use his Outlook Express, not Outlook. (have set-up many of
these myself.)
Perhaps I mis-spelled something in nntp, but at the finish button, it
did try to load the groups.
As for the error message, I honestly cant recall right now, but one
definately came up stating something similar to 'could not load groups'.
I had a gut feeling that he should have been able to get to the
microsoft server no matter what his i.s.p situation.
Will post back as soon as I have been at his computer.

Thanks