Palm III. Can I still get a 3.5 or 4.1 upgrade.

Jim Anderson wrote:
> In article <part1of1.1.Ms4u0FfIw89Bew.RemoveThis@ue.ph>, Trouble@Mill says...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an old Palm III, that I want to use as a DataLogger for my car. I've
>> found the relevant cables and software, but it needs a minimum OS of 3.5.
>>
>> It looks like Palm pulled these upgrades a long time ago.
>>
>> Are there any alternate sources.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>
> I don't have a link anymore, but the VX had a free upgrade to 3.5, if
> you interrupted the install and go into the advanced mode, it will flash
> a III or any Dragonball CPU PDA.
>
> The official 4.1 upgrade CD can be found on eBay off-and-on. But the
> only things it adds to 3.5 are SD card related.
>
> You should look for a TRG Pro, it was a III with a CF card slot added
> on. It's OS 3.5.1 already had all of the additions of Palm OS4.1 6
> months before Palm released it.

Check the palm site:
http://www.palm.com/us/support/palm3/?prop5=handhelds&prop6=palm%20iii...ents=ev

It list the out of the box version with each handheld and the posible
upgrades

In article <tklqk.34836$co7.19106@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com>,
keith_nuttle.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net says...

>
> Check the palm site:
> http://www.palm.com/us/support/palm3/?prop5=handhelds&prop6=palm%20iii...ents=ev
>
> It list the out of the box version with each handheld and the posible
> upgrades
>

No longer, Palm reclaimed server space by removing old updates and the
pages that link them. I.e. the III had 12 or so update/downloads and
Palm now says no updates available.

"Trouble@Mill" <Trouble@mill.> wrote in message
news:part1of1.1.Ms4u0FfIw89Bew@ue.ph...
> Hi,
>
> I have an old Palm III, that I want to use as a DataLogger for my car.
> I've
> found the relevant cables and software, but it needs a minimum OS of 3.5.
>
> It looks like Palm pulled these upgrades a long time ago.
>
> Are there any alternate sources.
>
> Cheers.
>

http://www.palm.com/us/support/35upgrade/index.html *seems* still to be
alive. I started down the trail of links and got a "file download" panel.
There also seem to be detailed installation instructions.

Harold Fuchs
London, England

"Harold Fuchs" <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote:
>"Trouble@Mill" <Trouble@mill.> wrote in message
>news:part1of1.1.Ms4u0FfIw89Bew@ue.ph...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an old Palm III, that I want to use as a DataLogger for my car.
>> I've
>> found the relevant cables and software, but it needs a minimum OS of 3.5.
>>
>> It looks like Palm pulled these upgrades a long time ago.
>>
>> Are there any alternate sources.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>
>http://www.palm.com/us/support/35upgrade/index.html *seems* still to be
>alive. I started down the trail of links and got a "file download" panel.
>There also seem to be detailed installation instructions.
>
>Harold Fuchs
>London, England

Sorry, I had to "postpone" this for a couple of weeks.

That link is for the Vx, not the III.

Cheers.

Jim Anderson <fro2750 RemoveThis @frontiernet.my_finger.net> wrote:
>In article <part1of1.1.Ms4u0FfIw89Bew RemoveThis @ue.ph>, Trouble@Mill says...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an old Palm III, that I want to use as a DataLogger for my car. I've
>> found the relevant cables and software, but it needs a minimum OS of 3.5.
>>
>> It looks like Palm pulled these upgrades a long time ago.
>>
>> Are there any alternate sources.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>
>I don't have a link anymore, but the VX had a free upgrade to 3.5, if
>you interrupted the install and go into the advanced mode, it will flash
>a III or any Dragonball CPU PDA.
>
>The official 4.1 upgrade CD can be found on eBay off-and-on. But the
>only things it adds to 3.5 are SD card related.
>
>You should look for a TRG Pro, it was a III with a CF card slot added
>on. It's OS 3.5.1 already had all of the additions of Palm OS4.1 6
>months before Palm released it.

Ah ha. I had read there was a "trick" to getting the Vx to load on the III,
but I hadn't been able to find it anywhere.

It's worth a try, as even if it screws up, I haven't lost anything, as I'm not
using the III for anything.

Cheers.

Trouble@Mill <Trouble@mill.> wrote:
>Jim Anderson <fro2750 RemoveThis @frontiernet.my_finger.net> wrote:
>>In article <part1of1.1.Ms4u0FfIw89Bew RemoveThis @ue.ph>, Trouble@Mill says...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have an old Palm III, that I want to use as a DataLogger for my car.
>>>I've
>>> found the relevant cables and software, but it needs a minimum OS of 3.5.
>>>
>>> It looks like Palm pulled these upgrades a long time ago.
>>>
>>> Are there any alternate sources.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I don't have a link anymore, but the VX had a free upgrade to 3.5, if
>>you interrupted the install and go into the advanced mode, it will flash
>>a III or any Dragonball CPU PDA.
>>
>>The official 4.1 upgrade CD can be found on eBay off-and-on. But the
>>only things it adds to 3.5 are SD card related.
>>
>>You should look for a TRG Pro, it was a III with a CF card slot added
>>on. It's OS 3.5.1 already had all of the additions of Palm OS4.1 6
>>months before Palm released it.
>
>Ah ha. I had read there was a "trick" to getting the Vx to load on the III,
>but I hadn't been able to find it anywhere.
>
>It's worth a try, as even if it screws up, I haven't lost anything, as I'm not
>using the III for anything.
>
>Cheers.


Well, that doesn't work. I've tried everything, even re-flashing with 3.3
immediately before trying the 3.5. I get one of a numbr of different errors:

Encountered an error flashing the ROM into the handheld. The existing ROM is
invalid - the entire ROM needs to be reflashed.

Or:

The Plam OS Software Upgrade Utility encountered an error reading the
handheld's product code. As a result, the software upgrade cannot continue.
Timeout error.

Or:

Some other error, that I can't reproduce now, that implied a corrupt ROM.

Any further ideas.

Cheers.

Trouble@Mill wrote:
> Trouble@Mill <Trouble@mill.> wrote:
>> Jim Anderson <fro2750.RemoveThis@frontiernet.my_finger.net> wrote:
>>> In article <part1of1.1.Ms4u0FfIw89Bew.RemoveThis@ue.ph>, Trouble@Mill says...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have an old Palm III, that I want to use as a DataLogger for my car.
>>>> I've
>>>> found the relevant cables and software, but it needs a minimum OS of 3.5.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like Palm pulled these upgrades a long time ago.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any alternate sources.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I don't have a link anymore, but the VX had a free upgrade to 3.5, if
>>> you interrupted the install and go into the advanced mode, it will flash
>>> a III or any Dragonball CPU PDA.
>>>
>>> The official 4.1 upgrade CD can be found on eBay off-and-on. But the
>>> only things it adds to 3.5 are SD card related.
>>>
>>> You should look for a TRG Pro, it was a III with a CF card slot added
>>> on. It's OS 3.5.1 already had all of the additions of Palm OS4.1 6
>>> months before Palm released it.
>> Ah ha. I had read there was a "trick" to getting the Vx to load on the III,
>> but I hadn't been able to find it anywhere.
>>
>> It's worth a try, as even if it screws up, I haven't lost anything, as I'm not
>> using the III for anything.
>>
>> Cheers.
>
>
> Well, that doesn't work. I've tried everything, even re-flashing with 3.3
> immediately before trying the 3.5. I get one of a numbr of different errors:
>
> Encountered an error flashing the ROM into the handheld. The existing ROM is
> invalid - the entire ROM needs to be reflashed.
>
> Or:
>
> The Plam OS Software Upgrade Utility encountered an error reading the
> handheld's product code. As a result, the software upgrade cannot continue.
> Timeout error.
>
> Or:
>
> Some other error, that I can't reproduce now, that implied a corrupt ROM.
>
> Any further ideas.
>
> Cheers.
>
I saw a refurbished Palm 105 at Frys electronic the other day for 35
dollars. Considering time and money it may be cheaper to go to a new
handheld.

In article <part1of1.1.EGgYQ$a$JfeEVw@ue.ph>, Trouble@Mill says...
> Trouble@Mill <Trouble@mill.> wrote:

> Well, that doesn't work. I've tried everything, even re-flashing with 3.3
> immediately before trying the 3.5. I get one of a numbr of different errors:
>
> Encountered an error flashing the ROM into the handheld. The existing ROM is
> invalid - the entire ROM needs to be reflashed.
>
> Or:
>
> The Plam OS Software Upgrade Utility encountered an error reading the
> handheld's product code. As a result, the software upgrade cannot continue.
> Timeout error.
>
> Or:

This is where you type the magic to enter into the Advanced mode of the
install. You can only steal the software in advanced mode.

Do a Google search "Palm install advanced mode" or sum such.

Jim Anderson <fro2750.DeleteThis@frontiernet.my_finger.net> wrote:
>In article <part1of1.1.EGgYQ$a$JfeEVw@ue.ph>, Trouble@Mill says...
>> Trouble@Mill <Trouble@mill.> wrote:
>
>> Well, that doesn't work. I've tried everything, even re-flashing with 3.3
>> immediately before trying the 3.5. I get one of a numbr of different errors:
>>
>> Encountered an error flashing the ROM into the handheld. The existing ROM
>>is
>> invalid - the entire ROM needs to be reflashed.
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> The Plam OS Software Upgrade Utility encountered an error reading the
>> handheld's product code. As a result, the software upgrade cannot continue.
>>
>> Timeout error.
>>
>> Or:
>
>This is where you type the magic to enter into the Advanced mode of the
>install. You can only steal the software in advanced mode.
>
>Do a Google search "Palm install advanced mode" or sum such.

Errr. That WAS in Advanced/Debug mode.

Cheers.