How to transfer iPhone & iTunes to new computer?

In article <Y9qdnRCm_NTCCMvUnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d.RemoveThis@giganews.com>,
"C. Sowash" <csowash.RemoveThis@nospamComcast.net> wrote:

> I purchased a new computer for Christmas. How can I transfer my
> iPhone/iTunes
> to the new computer. The old computer was running Windows XP; the new one is
> running Windows Vista. They are both connected to my home network, so there
> is
> no problem quickly copying files and folders.
>
> I have installed iTunes on the new computer and connected my iPhone to it.
> iTunes asks me if I want to erase the iPhone and sync with the new computer.
> Of course, what I want to do is erase the new computer and sync my iPhone
> contents with it and make the new computer the home computer for my iPhone.

Apart from transferring all the music/films (found in a folder under
iTunes) - download iTunes freshly so you have the newest version

Important: Do not forget to deactivate your "old" computer - because if
you do not you will have one out of five available authorizeable
computers for music you purchased in iTunes store.
You can deactivate all authorized computers (and reactivate the ones you
need) just once a year.

HTH

Marc

(I learnt that when Apple repaired two of my computers and exchanged
motherboards - so I could not deactivate them anymore. So if you ever
have a computer repaired, first deactivate it if you can.)

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Marc Heusser wrote:
> In article <Y9qdnRCm_NTCCMvUnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d RemoveThis @giganews.com>,
> "C. Sowash" <csowash RemoveThis @nospamComcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I purchased a new computer for Christmas. How can I transfer my
>> iPhone/iTunes
>> to the new computer. The old computer was running Windows XP; the new one is
>> running Windows Vista. They are both connected to my home network, so there
>> is
>> no problem quickly copying files and folders.
>>
>> I have installed iTunes on the new computer and connected my iPhone to it.
>> iTunes asks me if I want to erase the iPhone and sync with the new computer.
>> Of course, what I want to do is erase the new computer and sync my iPhone
>> contents with it and make the new computer the home computer for my iPhone.
>
> Apart from transferring all the music/films (found in a folder under
> iTunes) - download iTunes freshly so you have the newest version
>
> Important: Do not forget to deactivate your "old" computer - because if
> you do not you will have one out of five available authorizeable
> computers for music you purchased in iTunes store.
> You can deactivate all authorized computers (and reactivate the ones you
> need) just once a year.
>
> HTH
>
> Marc
>
> (I learnt that when Apple repaired two of my computers and exchanged
> motherboards - so I could not deactivate them anymore. So if you ever
> have a computer repaired, first deactivate it if you can.)
>

My PC mb went pop last october, the HD was fine and the new PC had a
bigger, faster drive. I installed the old HD as a second drive in the
new PC. I could boot the PC up using the old HD (didn't bother with
drivers I just wanted it to 'work') and this enabled me to de-activate
the account on my 'old' PC. It also meant I could swap the Itunes
folder over from my old HD to the new one quite easily.

Mikr

At 28 Dec 2008 23:52:46 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > My PC mb went pop last october, the HD was fine and the new PC had a
> > bigger, faster drive. I installed the old HD as a second drive in the
> > new PC. I could boot the PC up using the old HD (didn't bother with
> > drivers I just wanted it to 'work') and this enabled me to de-activate
> > the account on my 'old' PC. It also meant I could swap the Itunes
> > folder over from my old HD to the new one quite easily.
> >
> > Mikr
> >
>
> I still can't believe you guys would let ANY company treat you like
> this, some kind of captive animal caged to protect the record companies.
>
> What a crock of bullshit.


This only applies to purchased DRMed content. Any media you rip from CD,
or any other non-protected content aren't license restricted in any way.

I used to run into the same problem with audio books from Audible.com. I
used to change PDAs as often as my socks, and would often forget to
deactivate my old PDAs and bumped up against the Audible maximum device
limit several times. They cheerfully "reset" my limit for me each time.

Mike <mikeloveschampagneandrugby.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote in
news:gj8h1a$7j9$1@news.motzarella.org:

> Marc Heusser wrote:
>> In article <Y9qdnRCm_NTCCMvUnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d.TakeThisOut@giganews.com>,
>> "C. Sowash" <csowash.TakeThisOut@nospamComcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I purchased a new computer for Christmas. How can I transfer my
>>> iPhone/iTunes
>>> to the new computer. The old computer was running Windows XP; the
>>> new one is running Windows Vista. They are both connected to my
>>> home network, so there is
>>> no problem quickly copying files and folders.
>>>
>>> I have installed iTunes on the new computer and connected my iPhone
>>> to it. iTunes asks me if I want to erase the iPhone and sync with
>>> the new computer. Of course, what I want to do is erase the new
>>> computer and sync my iPhone contents with it and make the new
>>> computer the home computer for my iPhone.
>>
>> Apart from transferring all the music/films (found in a folder under
>> iTunes) - download iTunes freshly so you have the newest version
>>
>> Important: Do not forget to deactivate your "old" computer - because
>> if you do not you will have one out of five available authorizeable
>> computers for music you purchased in iTunes store.
>> You can deactivate all authorized computers (and reactivate the ones
>> you need) just once a year.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> (I learnt that when Apple repaired two of my computers and exchanged
>> motherboards - so I could not deactivate them anymore. So if you ever
>> have a computer repaired, first deactivate it if you can.)
>>
>
> My PC mb went pop last october, the HD was fine and the new PC had a
> bigger, faster drive. I installed the old HD as a second drive in the
> new PC. I could boot the PC up using the old HD (didn't bother with
> drivers I just wanted it to 'work') and this enabled me to de-activate
> the account on my 'old' PC. It also meant I could swap the Itunes
> folder over from my old HD to the new one quite easily.
>
> Mikr
>

I still can't believe you guys would let ANY company treat you like
this, some kind of captive animal caged to protect the record companies.

What a crock of bullshit.

nospam <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:291220081342455848%
nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid:

> nobody is watching every move. just where do you come up with this
> stuff anyway?
>
>

So, why can't we just plug it in and use Windows Explorer to copy all the
MP3 files to or from the iPhone we want? Why MUST we use some special
software to load it? The answer to that is tracking. There's no other
reason why you can't just copy music or movies or any other media to the
damned iPod/iPhone than THEY want to CONTROL YOU.

When you plug an iPhone into a computer, the computer needs to treat it
just like a USB hard drive. That's the fastest and best way to copy 400
songs to ANY device.

No amount of apologetics can explain why you MUST use some special
software.

On 2008-12-29, Larry <noone RemoveThis @home.com> wrote:
> No amount of apologetics can explain why you MUST use some special
> software.

Well, *you* can't. That doesn't mean that nobody else can.

"nospam" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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>> I doubt native .avi support, for example, would mean fewer sales.
>
> what i get from his rant is simply being able to drag-copy music (which
> is actually using special software known as explorer or finder) instead
> of using itunes.

Which also wouldn't mean fewer sales. Older iPods had a USB Mass-storage
mode- what happened to it?

> the advantage to itunes are playlists, particularly smart playlists
> which can be populated based on criteria, such as all recently added
> songs or 100 songs that haven't been played in six months or more.
> then just plug the device into the computer and a few minutes later all
> of the new music is on the device. at that point, it can be browsed
> based on various tags, not just the file/folder hierarchy a drag-copy
> would impart.

Drag/copy also drags the embedded ID tags, and lets the device sort the
content by artist, album, etc. Works with my 1st-gen Nano, various generic
MP3 players, Windows Media "Plays For Sure"-based players, etc. Every
player except my Zunes and my wife's iphone.

>> Or USB
>> mass storage mode on the Touch or iPhone.
>
> it could be that not that many people actually used disk mode. nobody
> seemed to notice or care when it disappeared on the 2nd gen ipod
> shuffle.

Perhaps. It still doesn't make it a good idea, since it limits the number
of computers it allows you to connect with (i.e. only those with iTunes
installed.)

>> This is what Larry is talking
>> about. Needing to find a PC with _your_ iTunes account on it just to
>> move
>> unencrypted content on or off a media player is a pain in the ass.
>
> then it's a good thing that's not required. enable manual sync.

I have iTunes on only one PC. One too many, IMO, only because (other than
iPhone support) it's completely redundant (as is the equally annoying "Zune
Desktop")- all I should need to load and unload media is my file browser.

>> I get
>> the restrictions WRT DRM'd content, but moving a ripped CD I personally
>> own
>> on or off a $200 iPhone should be just as easy as moving it on or off a
>> $20
>> USB-stick MP3 player (i.e. needing a file browser only.) This isn't
>> unique
>> to Apple, or course- the MS Zune is equally a pain in the ass in this
>> respect. Why can't two industry giants make devices as easy to deal with
>> as
>> a Sansa media player? (Rhectorical question, of course- "bowing to their
>> respective media stores' media suppliers' wishes" is the obvious answer.)
>
> yep. that's exactly what it is. the music companies are protecting
> their content, and since they own the copyrights, they get to call the
> shots. there needs to be a balance, however, and it's not entirely
> clear what that is.
>
>> It's just a shame the devices couldn't play by different rules WRT to DRM
>> and non-DRM content, particularly for those of us who don't buy much
>> online
>> content, preferring to purchase CDs and DVDs.
>
> i don't see how it's restricted if you digitize your own music.

I'm suggesting the iPhone/iPod/Zune should allow USB Mass Storage mode
("disk mode") for non-DRM content, and require their desktop software for
DRM content transfer. This would seem to strike a fair balance between
useablity and protecting intellectual property.

Windows Mobile, for all its quirks, has media transfer down well. Non-DRM
content can moved about in any fashion- email, WiFi, Bluetooth, USB,
Infrared, File Explorer, etc. DRM content must be synced with Windows Media
Player from the licensed and the file synced to the WM device isn't playable
on any other device if transfered off.

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec.RemoveThis@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
news:cGC6l.24225$701.23968@newsfe12.iad:

> Windows Mobile, for all its quirks, has media transfer down well.
> Non-DRM content can moved about in any fashion- email, WiFi,
> Bluetooth, USB, Infrared, File Explorer, etc. DRM content must be
> synced with Windows Media Player from the licensed and the file synced
> to the WM device isn't playable on any other device if transfered off.
>
>

My favorite music player is STILL my 120GB Digital Mind Corp, Xclef
500....

When I got it, it had a 80GB drive in it. One of my system technician
friends took out his 120GB drive and put in one of the new drives from
his laptop. "Can I have the old drive for my MP3 player?", I mused to
his amazement. He didn't believe it just plugged into the handy cable
after taking the Xclef apart. It's NOT a task for the faint of heart,
but is quite easily done. My only beef is it is like iPhone with a
fixed-mounted Li-Ion battery you have to take it apart to change. It's
not much of an issue because it will play 22 hours continuously on a
charge, because it powers up the hard drive to load its memory, then
promptly shuts it down to save power, again. Just playing in Shuffle
Mode, it comes on about every 8 minutes to reload memory.

It's Korean and I've had it for years.

AS I love it, Plugged into any USB 2 port, it's treated like the 120GB
hard drive it is by any computer....no funny business. It loads and
transfers any files, not just music or ebooks (It reads ebooks sort of).
You can upload and download anything to it. It also is a voice recorder
with an AMAZING number of hours of recording time....no, make that days,
maybe weeks if plugged into 5VDC. The FM radio in it is MUCH better
than the one in my Nokia N800 tablet and is simply selected from the
main menu with, I think, 50 or 100 memories for travel.

Even after all these years, the battery STILL will run it over 20 hours
on a charge. It owes me nothing, even though it was expensive. I
usually resides on the DJ console sitting atop the engine cover of my
stepvan shop....the main entertainment until the N800 started streaming
radio over Alltel. Why screw around with 32GB when you can take all of
most collections with you??

Oh, It's also HUGE and VERY MANLY in its real leather case...ARR..ARR!


General

* Product type Hard drive
* PC interface(s) supported USB 2.0 , USB
* Digital storage Hard disk drive
* Weight 9 oz
* Dimensions (W x D x H) 3.2 in x 0.8 in x 5 in

Digital Player / Recorder

* Digital player supported digital audio standards MP3, WMA, ASF,
WAV, Ogg Vorbis
* Digital player ID3 tags support Ver 1.0/1.1/2.0 supported

Built-in Display

* Audio system built-in display LCD
* Resolution 160 x 104
* Backlight display Yes

Audio Features

* Sound effects Ultrabass

Radio

* Tuner type Built-in FM tuner

Connectivity

* Cable(s) included 1 x USB cable -

Battery / Power

* Battery 1 x Lithium ion Rechargeable Built-in
The battery plugs in once you get the case apart...

Oh, the biggest selling point is this puppy WILL POWER LOUDLY any of
your favorite LARGE HEADPHONES....too loudly! It's the only MP3 player
I ever had that makes my fav Sennheiser Pro headsets too loud to listen
too!

Larry <noone DeleteThis @home.com> wrote in news:Xns9B8511B257490noonehomecom@
74.209.131.13:

> Oh, It's also HUGE and VERY MANLY in its real leather case...ARR..ARR!
>
>

Here's some better specs I found. 10mw/channel at .01% THD with 90db
S/N ratio. The jog button on the side makes one-handed song selection
real easy, too. I'd forgotten it had FM recording and high speed
direct-to-MP3 line in recording I never use. Note the standard FAT32
hard drive. When I upgraded the disk, I put the two notebook drives
onto my Windows XP box with an ATA adapter and did a system disk copy
because the operating system is disk based for easy upgrades, which, of
course, has stopped as far as I know now. Upgrading was copying a new
..bin file to the hard drive over a USB cable. The battery is a
camcorder battery available still all over. I never tried the optical
digital input. Never had any device that supported it.

Oops...20 FM presets, not 50 or 100. I can't remember when I listened
to its FM radio. I used to carry it through airport security switched
to RUSSIAN language. It got their minds off pulling my suitcases apart
looking for the KGB spy equipment in it. Of course, KGB disbanded years
ago when the Soviet Union disintegrated, but airport security people
aren't too up on current GEOGRAPHY....

Specifications:

* Supported audio formats: MPEG 1,2,2.5 Layer3(8-320Kbps.VBR) WMA
(32-192Kbps)
* Sampling frequency: 8-48KHz
* File system: FAT32
* Capacity: 20GB (expandable up to 137GB)
* Hard disk type: 2.5" Low Power HDD, ATA I/F
* Buffer memory: max. 12MB
* MP3 encoding: 32 – 320kbps
* Voice recording: 32 – 128kbps
* FM Tuner: 20Preset
* Navigation: by Alphabet and by Folder
* Playback Time: 20 hours
* Power: Battery: internal 3.7V 2000mAh lithium-ion rechargeable;
Adapter: 100 - 240 AC to 5V DC
* Display: 160*105, W/B LCD, EL Backlight
* ID3 tag: version 1.0/1.1/2.0 supported
* Supported Languages: English, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and
Russian
* Equalizer(EQ) settings: Normal, Classic, Jazz, Rock, Ultra-Bass,
User Defined(5 Bands)
* PC interface: USB 1.0/1.1/2.0, Mass Storage Device
* Supported OS: Windows 98/SE, ME, 2000, XP & MAC
* Audio Input: Line-in, Built-in microphone
* Digital Input: S/PDIF(IEC958)
* Audio Output: headphone out
* S/N ratio: > 90dB
* THD: < 0.01%
* Earphone Out: 10mW + 10mW
* Dimensions: 129 * 81 * 22mm
* Weight: 255g

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 31 Dec 2008 07:21:10 -0800 nospam wrote:
>
>>>> what i get from his rant is simply being able to drag-copy music
> (which
>>>> is actually using special software known as explorer or finder)
> instead
>>>> of using itunes.
>>> Which also wouldn't mean fewer sales.
>> and you know this how?
>
>
> Because disk mode and using iTunes aren't mutually exclusive, and disk
> mode is transparent to non-users. Assuming you're correct and few people
> used disk mode, the majority of users wouldn't notice or care if it wa
> there or not.

I'm wrestling with this now, wanting to get my mp3s onto my new iPhone
3G. I reluctantly DLed and installed iTunes on my PC, but have yet to
move any content to the phone.

Is there a way to drag and drop files without using iTunes?

Or is there a less intrusive - and free - alternative to iTunes?

Todd Allcock <elecconnec.DeleteThis@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:WkN6l.22854
$mE3.18787@newsfe14.iad:

> (The Spongebob player supplanted the
> Nano as a kids' player two or three years ago because it had video
> playback.)
>

Which video formats does it support?

"nospam" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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>> > so when does the database get created? after the drag is complete?
>> > then the process would be slower. and since when can you drag-copy to
>> > a 1st gen nano and have the music show up in its database?
>>
>> I haven't used my Nano in ages, but IIRC, any songs dragged to it were
>> selectable by artist or album. If I'm wrong,
>
> you might want to try it again. no ipod of which i am aware works by
> simply dragging music to it. how would the library database be built?

You may be right- as I said, I rarely use the Nano. It has Halloween and
Christmas music on it and I drag it to my kids' school holiday parties for
background music. I haven't added new music to it in two or three years!
Perhaps drag and drop didn't work and I eventually used iTunes.

>> then my 4 year-old
>> daughter's $39 Nickelodeon Spongebob NPower Media Players is far more
>> advanced than an iPod apparently since any music copyed by drag and drop
>> is automatically sorted by ID tag. (The Spongebob player supplanted the
>> Nano as a kids' player two or three years ago because it had video
>> playback.)
>
> it's actually less advanced because it can't do things like smart
> playlists.

I'm talking about library creation. If I drag a bunch of music to it, it
automatically gets sorted by artist/album, as long as the music has the
appropriate ID tags.

>> > itunes is free, so there's no limitation, and there are itunes
>> > substitutes for those who don't like it for whatever reason.
>>
>> It's not the cost in dollars- I try to keep useless clutter off of my PCs
>> as much as possible. Nothing against iTunes per se, but other than iPod
>> connectivity it's redundant software on a Windows PC, since the OS
>> already includes an adequate media player. (Ditto to Zune software- why
>> MS insists on requiring a different media player that duplicates their
>> own WMP is beyond me.)
>
> adequate is opinion. i know people who use itunes and do not own an
> ipod or iphone because they find it better than other options. and
> there are itunes alternatives that can sync.

Again, I said "adequate," not "best." WMP is included in the Windows OS, so
it takes no additional hard disk real estate, and has the base-level
functionality for a media player- library, ID tags, CD ripping, ratings,
etc. It certainly isn't the most robust media player, but it is by
virtually any definition "adequate" except for its inability to sync with
iPods or Zunes, which require dedicated software (iTunes/Zune Desktop.)

>> > as noted above, you get fewer features and it's much more work for the
>> > user.
>>
>> Again, not mutually exclusive. Syncing is time consuming, and drag/drop
>> is faster if you just want to add a file or two.
>
> actually no. syncing requires nothing more than putting the ipod in
> the dock or attaching the cable. dragging songs requires finding which
> folder to drag the songs so that the file/folder hierarchy is correct.
> for one or two songs, the difference may be small, but beyond that,
> syncing is much, much easier.

As long as your music library is smaller than your media player's storage
capability, yes. Otherwise syncing requires defining the sync parameters-
random, genre, ratings, etc. I'm old school- I tend to select the
albums/artists I want to listen to, so I'm manually selecting the media to
sync anyway.

> plus you get song ratings, play counts, skip counts and dynamic
> playlists such as 50 random songs not played in the last month. doing
> that with drag-copy would be a royal pain in the butt.

Absolutely, but again, I'm not suggesting that iTunes support be dropped,
only that basic drag/drop be alllowed.

>> > that makes it even *more* convoluted. why have *two* ways of copying
>> > music when one is sufficient?
>>
>> Ask Apple- older iPods worked that way!
>
> no, they did not work that way.

I stand corrected. My Nano is/was apparently more infantile than I
remembered.

>> If you mean Windows Media-based MP3 players, virtually every name-brand
>> player other than Apple falls in the category. Their lack of success,
>> IMO,
>> was a combination of too-little too-late (iPod already dominated by the
>> time the smaller players centralized on a competing "standard") and lack
>> of a centralized media store like iTunes.
>
> ipod was not the first mp3 player, and in fact, when it came out,
> people thought it would fail because it was late to the party and
> expensive.

The iPod was the first successful media player, prior units like the Rio
devices were a "success" only by the most moderate measure.

>> > part of the ipod's success is that it is simple and meets the needs of
>> > most people, not that it has zillions of features.
>>
>> That's rationalization. You pretend Apple's success is because of some
>> really dumb design decisions instead of it being in spite of hem!
>
> it's not rationalization. some of the other mp3 players are a pain to
> use. in any event, ipods have ~70% market share and maintained it.
> that's not due to dumb luck.

Agreed. Like with the iPhone, it's because their advantages far outweigh
their disadvantages for most users. However, that doesn't mean that the
disadvantages are actually advantages- that's just apologist-speak.

>> Again, features transparent to non-users of the feature do not complicate
>> the device. As you've noted, disk-mode was a standard feature of most
>> iPods until recently.
>
> some may require additional engineering and certainly testing
> resources. if few people use it, why bother?

Fair enough. I was giving the device more credit than it was due.

"RB" <burkheimer DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Because disk mode and using iTunes aren't mutually exclusive, and disk
>> mode is transparent to non-users. Assuming you're correct and few people
>> used disk mode, the majority of users wouldn't notice or care if it wa
>> there or not.
>
> I'm wrestling with this now, wanting to get my mp3s onto my new iPhone 3G.
> I reluctantly DLed and installed iTunes on my PC, but have yet to move any
> content to the phone.

It requires iTunes to copy or remove content.

> Is there a way to drag and drop files without using iTunes?
>
> Or is there a less intrusive - and free - alternative to iTunes?

Perhaps, but I haven't bothered looking. If I'm required to use any added
software to load or unload the iPhone, I figure I might as well use the
officially supported one.