AT&T will buy WayPort. More good news for iPhone users!

On Nov 22, 5:29 pm, "Todd Allcock" <eleccon....DeleteThis@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> "4phun" <vic.hea....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ed0f247f-c217-4a37-9bca-7fa19db5eb0a@u14g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > In addition to adding features like Street View on Google Maps and
> > performance improvements that could reduce the number of dropped
> > calls, the latest software update for the iPhone released on Friday
> > also plugs holes that could expose data on locked phones.
>
> > The update plugs a hole that lets someone with physical access to a
> > passcode-locked device to launch applications ...
>
> Yeah, that's the hole that was discovered in August.  There's no more
> telling way for Apple to demonstrate if the iPhone is ready for the
> Enterprise than to take three months to issue an update to fix such a simple
> problem.  Maybe that Google "Street View" took longer than they expected...
>
> >http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=iPhone+update+makes+device+far+mo....
>
> Yet as always...
>
> http://blogs.computerworld.com/apple_iphone_2_2_update_fixes_issues_c...
>
> Not picking on Apple in particular, in this case- this stuff seems to be
> common with all tech products recently.  The REAL problem with
> user-updatable products is that there seems to be no real incentive for
> manufacturers to get it all working right the first time.  Bliss is always
> just around the corner with the NEXT update!  

Apple fixed 12 security holes not one with this release. Would you
want 12 releases or wait for just one if you were IT?

"4phun" <vic.healey RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ed0f247f-c217-4a37-9bca-7fa19db5eb0a@u14g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
> In addition to adding features like Street View on Google Maps and
> performance improvements that could reduce the number of dropped
> calls, the latest software update for the iPhone released on Friday
> also plugs holes that could expose data on locked phones.
>
> The update plugs a hole that lets someone with physical access to a
> passcode-locked device to launch applications ...

Yeah, that's the hole that was discovered in August. There's no more
telling way for Apple to demonstrate if the iPhone is ready for the
Enterprise than to take three months to issue an update to fix such a simple
problem. Maybe that Google "Street View" took longer than they expected...

> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=iPhone+update+makes+device+far+more+secure

Yet as always...

http://blogs.computerworld.com/apple_iphone_2_2_update_fixes_issues_ca...s_other

Not picking on Apple in particular, in this case- this stuff seems to be
common with all tech products recently. The REAL problem with
user-updatable products is that there seems to be no real incentive for
manufacturers to get it all working right the first time. Bliss is always
just around the corner with the NEXT update!

"Ron" <ron.clifford.RemoveThis@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:qbnei4hkmh1m0penhubf96ajn59sd1i7tk@4ax.com...

>>In an internal company e-mail obtained by CNN, Verizon Wireless
>>President and CEO Lowell McAdam disclosed Wednesday that "the personal
>>wireless account of President-elect Barack Obama had been accessed by
>>employees not authorized to do so" in recent months.
>>
>>Good old Verizon...
>
>
> I'm old enough for this to sound just like the Watergate Breakin,
> where they were lookin for info on the Democrats. This time someone
> likely had the ideas they'd find all of Obama's phone calls to William
> Ayers. They didnt find any so the story didnt come out till now.
> Bet they'll find some Verizon employee works for the White House
> Plumbers.

Oh, please! And James Carville was behind the hacking of Sarah Palin's
email... I think "Conspiracy Theory" Larry is starting to rub off on you...

This is far more likely a case of an employee abusing their tiny, little
power where someone with celebrity status is involved, like the hacking
Paris Hilton's Sidekick on T-Mobile a few years ago, or IRS employees
looking at celebrities' (or ex-spouses) tax returns to see how much they
reported earning.

"Duuuude... check this out- I just found Obama's account! Check it out..."

"Cool... D'ja think Jessica Alba's on Verizon? I'll bet she sends some
WILD picture messages..."

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At 22 Nov 2008 15:55:10 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> > To be fair, your company is the exception rather than the rule. Many
are
> > more restrictive, and I suspect that's dependent on security concerns-
i.e.
> > can the device be remote-wiped if lost, can the on-device security be
> > circumvented easily by "power users", etc.
> >
> > My wife works for the Feds, and after one too many "stolen/missing
laptop"
> > scandles on the news, went security crazy. They had already required
> > Blackberries only for mobile access (but you could use your personal one,

> > if you chose), but then they also locked down laptop use by requiring
RSA
> > keyfobs or cards (random password generators that issue new passwords
once
> > a MINUTE) to access their Exchange server anywhere outside the
government
> > WAN.
>
> We've had the RSA cards forever, too. That a gov't agency is just now
> getting around to that, surprises me.


I suspect is it was a cost issue- for all the talk about government waste
and $500 hammers, my wife's agency still runs many of their PCs on Windows
2000 and Office 2k2!

Until the RSA cards/fobs were issued (early this year, IIRC) they relied
soley on password protection and forced monthly password changes. To
discourage (but not prohibit) the use of OWA, they now have to reenter an
RSA code every 15 minutes online. Prior to this recent change, they only
had to enter the code at the beginning of a web session. My wife's attitute,
(like many others', I suspect,) was "F--- this, I'll just wait until I'm in
the office!", lowering the productivity of the (probably very small number
of!) Federal Employes diligent enough to actually work on their own time!

At 22 Nov 2008 16:19:45 -0500 Jishnu Mukerji wrote:
> Todd Allcock wrote:
> > requiring RSA
> > keyfobs or cards (random password generators that issue new passwords
once
> > a MINUTE) to access their Exchange server anywhere outside the
government
> > WAN.
>
> Been using variants of those for almost 6 years now. What were these
> government agencies using? Just plain passwords over open network
> connections? Are they nuts?


No, open passwords over a 56k dial-up VPN connection to a LAN in
Washington. This change (using RSA security) allowed them to use WiFi
connections instead of dialup when on the road. Nothing tries your
patience like opening, editing, and resaving a 2MB Powerpoint on a remote
server from a flakey dialup connection in rural South Dakota!

Todd Allcock wrote:
> requiring RSA
> keyfobs or cards (random password generators that issue new passwords once
> a MINUTE) to access their Exchange server anywhere outside the government
> WAN.

Been using variants of those for almost 6 years now. What were these
government agencies using? Just plain passwords over open network
connections? Are they nuts?

>
> Israel is the only country that the USA allows to have/maintain dual
> citizenship = passports.  USA & Israel

No, not true. That's a widely held misconception. A US citizen can,
in fact, hold dual citizenship with any other country, subject to any
restrictions that the other country may have on dual citizenship.

At 22 Nov 2008 21:47:16 +0000 c_mulholland.TakeThisOut@nym.hush.com wrote:
> > They are all totally infiltrated by people with DUAL
> >citizenship. Which flag do they really salute? I think it should be
> >forbidden, just like it is for President. Noone can really think Henry
> >Kissinger works for US.
>
> I saw a documentary about that.
>
> Israel is the only country that the USA allows to have/maintain dual
> citizenship = passports. USA & Israel
>
> Strange but true.


It would indeed be strange, if it were true...

....but it isn't.

Under US law, there is no prohibition from having multiple nation's
passports or holding dual-citizenship, as long as all requirements for US
citizenship are met.

I humbly submit Exhibit A; from the website of our own State Department :

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

[All use of capitalization for emphasis is mine]

"The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two
countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based
on its own policy...

"... a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it MAY
lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires
that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free
choice, and WITH THE INTENTION TO GIVE UP U.S. CITIZENSHIP.

"...Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport
to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required
by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country.
Use of the foreign passport DOES NOT ENDANGER U.S. CITIZENSHIP..."

So, hopefully another ridiculous myth "proving" Israel secretly controls
the US Goverment can fall by the wayside...? Nah, I didn't think so...

4phun <vic.healey DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in news:2194d1fb-1fc7-4d10-81b7-
0a5165a5b4b6 DeleteThis @j32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 22, 12:06 am, Larry <no... DeleteThis @home.com> wrote:
>> News <N... DeleteThis @Group.name> wrote in news:6N6dnUeBr-
>> 2977rUnZ2dnUVZ_u2dn... DeleteThis @speakeasy.net:
>>
>> > Maybe, but we know for sure they work for Ivan Seidenberg.
>>
>> Is he Irish Catholic??
>
> Like Kennedy and Cohen?
>
> I worked for that firm and it was Jewish from the get go. The name was
> cleverly selected to mislead the public. A typical tactic in certain
> circles.
>
>

That describes most of the retail storefronts in any shopping center.....

If you get bored, do some research on Google of who controls the top of ANY
Federal bureaucracy. They are all totally infiltrated by people with DUAL
citizenship. Which flag do they really salute? I think it should be
forbidden, just like it is for President. Noone can really think Henry
Kissinger works for US.

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c_mulholland.TakeThisOut@nym.hush.com wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:17:15 +0000, Larry <noone.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
>
>
>>4phun <vic.healey.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in news:2194d1fb-1fc7-4d10-81b7-
>>0a5165a5b4b6@j32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>>On Nov 22, 12:06 am, Larry <no....TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>News <N....TakeThisOut@Group.name> wrote in news:6N6dnUeBr-
>>>>2977rUnZ2dnUVZ_u2dn...@speakeasy.net:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Maybe, but we know for sure they work for Ivan Seidenberg.
>>>>
>>>>Is he Irish Catholic??
>>>
>>>Like Kennedy and Cohen?
>>>
>>>I worked for that firm and it was Jewish from the get go. The name was
>>>cleverly selected to mislead the public. A typical tactic in certain
>>>circles.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>That describes most of the retail storefronts in any shopping center.....
>>
>>If you get bored, do some research on Google of who controls the top of ANY
>>Federal bureaucracy. They are all totally infiltrated by people with DUAL
>>citizenship. Which flag do they really salute? I think it should be
>>forbidden, just like it is for President. Noone can really think Henry
>>Kissinger works for US.
>
>
> I saw a documentary about that.
>
> Israel is the only country that the USA allows to have/maintain dual
> citizenship = passports. USA & Israel
>
> Strange but true.


If you ignore Switzerland....

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