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Scott Ehrlich

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:10 am
Post subject: Prepaid phone as modem?
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If I were to become a prepaid customer and swapped the SIM out of the
prepaid phone and put the SIM into a quad-band bluetooth-enabled GSM
phone, would I be able to:

- Use TM's GPRS network when the phone is paired with a bluetooth laptop
computer?

and/or

- Use the phone as a modem and dial into a commercial ISP of my choice
when the phone is paired with a bluetooth laptop computer?

Thank you.

Scott
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Todd Allcock

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:10 am
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At 21 Nov 2006 00:10:55 +0000 Scott Ehrlich wrote:
>
> If I were to become a prepaid customer and swapped the SIM out of the
> prepaid phone and put the SIM into a quad-band bluetooth-enabled GSM
> phone, would I be able to:
>
> - Use TM's GPRS network when the phone is paired with a bluetooth
laptop
> computer?
>
> and/or
>
> - Use the phone as a modem and dial into a commercial ISP of my
choice
> when the phone is paired with a bluetooth laptop computer?

No, and no. T-Mo limits prepaid users' access to GPRS- they can only
access the prepaid "T-Zones" WAP deck, which includes CNN & ESPN
mobile, accont info, and T-Mo's wallpaper and ringtone purchase site.

Anything else gets "Your plan does not support this feature" whether
it's on the phone or a tethered laptop.

As far as dialing your own ISP, no that doesn't work either. I could
bore you with the technical details, but suffice it to say that no
cellphone really has a modem in it- it just has the hardware and
software to exchange data with the cell carrier, who then makes the
connection to your ISP. The cell carrier has to support this, and T-Mo
doesn't on prepaid. (This type of connection runs at a blazing
9600bps, so you're not missing much!)

Having said that, a seeming temporary glitch on T-Mo's system is
allowing unlimited GPRS access on prepaid (and postpaid) right now-
it's been that way for a about two weks, but I wouldn't rely on it
working for long.



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Todd Allcock

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:10 am
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At 21 Nov 2006 03:21:48 +0000 -= Hawk =- wrote:

> Hey, when I went from my (real) Hayes 1200 baud modem to a 9600, woo!
>
I liked 1200 baud- it was just about the right speed for reading text
as it displayed... Wink

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-= Hawk =-

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:21 am
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Todd Allcock

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:28 am
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At 21 Nov 2006 14:56:23 +0000 Donna Becker wrote:

> I tried to connect to the internet with both my prepaid
> and postpaid T-Mo accounts but got this message after it
> tried
registering
> 734 - The PPP link control protocol was terminated.

Is this on the phone itself or when tethering? Normally every T-Mo
customer gets limited free WAP access so they Can check account
balances and buy ringtones on their handset, even without a data plan.
You should be able to hit "wap.myvoicestream.com" from any phone or
tethered PC if your phone is configured correctly.

The "secret" to the free usage is to disable the T-Zones proxy. This
is easy on a higher-end phone with a better web browser like my MDA,
but not as easy on the lower-end phones- I can't seem get it on my
prepaid Nokia 3120, but can if I put the same SIM into my 3650, with
has more data configuration options.
>
> I guess that means the glitch has been fixed at least in
> the Cincinnati area. I know when I activate my unlimited
>data service on T-Mo it tracks usage. I wonder what would
> happen if you did get the access without subscribing -
> would they come back and charge you per Mb or something?> DonnaB

Unlike Cingular, for example, T-Mo no longer offers any metered plans-
so there currently isn't a per/KB rate to charge you. Playing on the
prepaid phones hasn't reduced my account balances, and on my post-paid
line I subscribe to "unlimited T-Zones," the port-crippled $5/month
plan that gives unlimited e-mail and WAP browsing, but blocks other web
usage, like streaming, FTP, VPN, or downloads greater than 1MB.
Currently, however, I can use streaming audio, FTP, and download any
size file I want, just like a $20/month "full" internet customer.

In fact, I'm posting this from my MDA now over T-Mo, and normally NNTP
port 119 (usenet) is blocked on T-Zones (only POP, SMTP, and IMAP e-
mail ports, and WAP ports are open.)



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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:19 pm
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At 21 Nov 2006 20:41:56 +0000 Donna Becker wrote:
> Ok Todd - you are correct. I only have free T-Zones and
>I was able to connect to mobile.google.com and other
>sites from my phone. I will fiddle some more and see if
>I can connect from my laptop. I remember you had said
>awhile back you could use the $5.99 plan with
>restrictions to do this. DonnaB


Yep, the restrictions are the same as for phone use- normally you can
only do e-mail and web browsing through T-Mo's proxy server
(216.155.165.50, port 8080) which prevents downloads (or web pages)
greater than 1MB.

Right now, without running through the proxy server, you can get
unlimited access- set up a connection to your phone and dial *99# to
connect.




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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:59 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:24 pm
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<Turn off the damned HTML, this isn't the web.>
Yikes - sorry - I turned it off! DonnaB PS I'm just a little old lady you
don't have to swear at me Sad
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