News: Details on iPhone at Walmart

"nospam" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <Xns9B7ADDE7E3C29noonehomecom.DeleteThis@74.209.131.13>, Larry
> <noone.DeleteThis@home.com> wrote:
>
>> > so why don't they get one of the many streaming apps? joost is one
>> > that's available now; sling box is coming soon. there are others.
>>
>> Because it simply doesn't play what's on the webpages. It plays
>> Applequeer
>> codecs. The browser should not have to pay extra just to play what's on
>> the webpages. That's absurd. I'd be pissed, too.
>
> pay extra?? joost is free. plus, there's a lot more to do than just
> watching videos on it.


That's the truth. Can't get enough of those flashlight apps.

I figured it out. All them flashlight apps are causing iPhone user's to go
blind.

If you can't see it, you don't need it.

In article <211220080606293785%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> just what i thought. you haven't actually used any restaurant search
> apps on the iphone, yet you are so sure they don't work well. and if
> your friends regret buying an iphone so much, why haven't they replaced
> them with something else and then sell it on ebay, likely making a nice
> profit out of it?

Weaver is a troll. He doesn't have any "friends". Everything you post
he will reply with ignorant bullshit. Don't fall for the bait. I advise
you to kill file him like I have done.

--
Charles

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:bXi3l.11094$YU2.6871@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com:

> If you can't see it, you don't need it.
>
>

There's the problem. They seem real fanbois until their curiosity drags
them over to where I'm sitting with the Linux tablet. It starts with,
"What's that?" I answer whatever new movie I'm watching, then they MUST
tell me how wonderful iPhone is, being ONE unit, not the tablet and the
tiny Z6m in my pocket (modem). I'm nice, but instructive, and show them
a few little items not available on the Fruitfone. It looks less
glamorous after a few minutes. Then, they start asking themselves, "Why
can't my iPhone do that? It's the finest handheld device on the
planet!" Sometimes they grow angry at what they're missing. I try to
explain why you SHOULDN'T own a computer controlled and programmed by a
sellphone company hell bent on reducing bandwidth loading.

Sometimes they ask, "What does that cost?", assuming after being ripped
in Appleland that it has to cost thousands. "New, this one was $239
from buy.com", I explain, "but this one I just bought for $100 from a
guy I met on the internet from NY." "What about that neat software?",
they ply trying to justify all they've spent so far, and continuing.
"Oh, all the software except the commercial GPS navigation program is
free.", I muse, "It comes from a large open source community of geniuses
who use it to show what great things they can do. Just go to
http://www.maemo.org to see the user software libraries. They install
with a simple click on the green arrows."

Now, they go into denial. "You don't have Multitouch. Only iPhone has
multitouch and it's the finest thing that ever came out for a
touchscreen." I boot Xournal and try to make the tiniest little drawing
my shaky hands can create on the very high resolution touchscreen with
its nasty old pointy stylus. "You have to use a stylus?! How old!" As
the tiny sketch materializes, I point out why we use a stylus instead of
our meathook. I try to bring them out, gently. I'm here to educate,
not make enemies. Even the ones with bolts through their noses can see
the stylus' reason. I pop up an intensely complex webpage like
news.google.com on the 800-pixel-wide display. "Go to this page on your
iPhone." Immediately, he can see I'm looking at the whole webpage
width, not the left half of it. "Click up this article." I point the
stylus to the most densely packed group of clickable news articles and
pick one in the middle.....on the right side of the display. He starts
moving his tiny window around until he finds them, then starts splitting
his fingers to make them far enough apart he can point his meathook at
the right one....step after step after step. "See any difference?", I
ask. He does.

Now, the silly Finns have given us a useful new toy:
http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/handwritingcalculator
It's the coolest touchscreen calculator I've ever seen....

I'm trying to learn Quickwrite, which is ported to the maemo tablets.
http://mrl.nyu.edu/projects/quikwriting/Quikwrite1.html
I watched someone "writing" an email with it and am totally fascinated.
It's going to take a lot of practice, but is like a great game....(c;]

iPhones miss all this. My flashlight is on my keychain....

Have you seen Nokia Labs' new Image Exchange for the Nokia smartphones?
It uploads the picture to your photo webpage AS YOU TAKE THEM! Totally
cool....no syncing, no sitting uploading, no iTunes. Runs in background
on the S60 series phones. S is for Symbian. It's great as long as
you're not DATA ROAMING IN EUROPE at a $1000/KB...(c;

The lab is always open for us to play:
http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/applications
crazy Finns.....

"Larry" <noone.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9B7B7CFAF5EF2noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> news:bXi3l.11094$YU2.6871@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> If you can't see it, you don't need it.
>>
>>
>
> There's the problem. They seem real fanbois until their curiosity drags
> them over to where I'm sitting with the Linux tablet. It starts with,
> "What's that?" I answer whatever new movie I'm watching, then they MUST
> tell me how wonderful iPhone is, being ONE unit, not the tablet and the
> tiny Z6m in my pocket (modem). I'm nice, but instructive, and show them
> a few little items not available on the Fruitfone. It looks less
> glamorous after a few minutes. Then, they start asking themselves, "Why
> can't my iPhone do that? It's the finest handheld device on the
> planet!" Sometimes they grow angry at what they're missing. I try to
> explain why you SHOULDN'T own a computer controlled and programmed by a
> sellphone company hell bent on reducing bandwidth loading.
>
> Sometimes they ask, "What does that cost?", assuming after being ripped
> in Appleland that it has to cost thousands. "New, this one was $239
> from buy.com", I explain, "but this one I just bought for $100 from a
> guy I met on the internet from NY." "What about that neat software?",
> they ply trying to justify all they've spent so far, and continuing.
> "Oh, all the software except the commercial GPS navigation program is
> free.", I muse, "It comes from a large open source community of geniuses
> who use it to show what great things they can do. Just go to
> http://www.maemo.org to see the user software libraries. They install
> with a simple click on the green arrows."
>
> Now, they go into denial. "You don't have Multitouch. Only iPhone has
> multitouch and it's the finest thing that ever came out for a
> touchscreen." I boot Xournal and try to make the tiniest little drawing
> my shaky hands can create on the very high resolution touchscreen with
> its nasty old pointy stylus. "You have to use a stylus?! How old!" As
> the tiny sketch materializes, I point out why we use a stylus instead of
> our meathook. I try to bring them out, gently. I'm here to educate,
> not make enemies. Even the ones with bolts through their noses can see
> the stylus' reason. I pop up an intensely complex webpage like
> news.google.com on the 800-pixel-wide display. "Go to this page on your
> iPhone." Immediately, he can see I'm looking at the whole webpage
> width, not the left half of it. "Click up this article." I point the
> stylus to the most densely packed group of clickable news articles and
> pick one in the middle.....on the right side of the display. He starts
> moving his tiny window around until he finds them, then starts splitting
> his fingers to make them far enough apart he can point his meathook at
> the right one....step after step after step. "See any difference?", I
> ask. He does.
>
> Now, the silly Finns have given us a useful new toy:
> http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/handwritingcalculator
> It's the coolest touchscreen calculator I've ever seen....
>
> I'm trying to learn Quickwrite, which is ported to the maemo tablets.
> http://mrl.nyu.edu/projects/quikwriting/Quikwrite1.html
> I watched someone "writing" an email with it and am totally fascinated.
> It's going to take a lot of practice, but is like a great game....(c;]
>
> iPhones miss all this. My flashlight is on my keychain....
>
> Have you seen Nokia Labs' new Image Exchange for the Nokia smartphones?
> It uploads the picture to your photo webpage AS YOU TAKE THEM! Totally
> cool....no syncing, no sitting uploading, no iTunes. Runs in background
> on the S60 series phones. S is for Symbian. It's great as long as
> you're not DATA ROAMING IN EUROPE at a $1000/KB...(c;
>
> The lab is always open for us to play:
> http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/applications
> crazy Finns.....
>

I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at apps.
He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop up tells him
he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has limits.

My aunt wanted to by my uncle a iPhone. They do not have Internet where they
live. I had to break the bad news to her that she cant use it to get the
apps. She kept telling me the salesman kept telling her that they could do
anything they wanted with it.

I then dragged my friend that owns one and show her you can't get all apps
from the app store. After a few days the salesman calls her back to tell her
he was going to throw in a 12V charger if she bought it from him. She tells
him what she found out and the guy lied and said there must have been
something wrong with his phone.

You can dl Flashlight apps thru 3G but try to get anything big and that
unlimited plan sure has limits.

"nospam" <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:211220081724364066%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article <bsw3l.11367$be.5506@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver
> <kevinkeithweaver DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at apps.
>> He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop up tells
>> him
>> he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has limits.
>
> the apps store works just fine over 3g, with the only limit being apps
> over 10 meg. the vast majority of apps are under 10 meg, with most
> under 1 meg.



But there are apps that cant be downloaded. Why not with a Unlimited plan ?
You fail to tell me why that is. With unlimited there should be no limit.

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:bXi3l.11094
$YU2.6871@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com:

> If you can't see it, you don't need it.
>
>

I think the users may be catching the virus from the corporation staff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44w-RYurbN4

Let's not talk about anything but what's on the list.....to sell iPhones.

Don't question why Apple does or doesn't do. Watch the video. You've seen
this bullshit right on these newsgroups.

nospam <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:211220080606293785%
nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid:

> the only issue with bluetooth is it doesn't support stereo headsets,
> but those are clunky and not particularly common. transferring files
> is easy. most people are more than happy with 16 gig; the best selling
> ipods have less than that.
>

You've never swapped music with a friend's computer over Bluetooth FTP
during lunch, have you?

I thought not.

You've never Bluetoothed some neat software from your device to your
friend's device, or vice-versa, during a meeting, have you?

I thought not.

You've never been in a Bluetooth network so you can share stuff during the
seminar, having access to a shared database on someone else's laptop, have
you?

I thought not.

iPhone might as well not even have Bluetooth. It needs a headphone jack.

Todd Allcock <elecconnec.TakeThisOut@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in news:Spj3l.18840$iY3.3444
@newsfe14.iad:

> At 20 Dec 2008 20:40:19 -0500 nospam wrote:
>
>> > Yeah. Keep thinking that. Not everyone has e-mail to get pictures.
>>
>> more and more phones have email.
>
>
> True, but not many have push-email, which gives MMS a distinct advantage-
> like SMS, it offers instant delivery.
>
>
>

Nokia's just blown them all away. The CAMERA in the S60 phones now feeds
the pictures as soon as you snap them!

http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/imageexchange

Anyone you like, or just yourself, can see the picture you just shot 10
seconds ago on Image Exchange....

All you did was click the shutter...er, ah, what passes for a shutter these
days.

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:bsw3l.11367$be.5506@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:

> I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at apps.
> He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop up tells
> him he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has
> limits.

Oh, no! Iphone has unlimited data, all-you-can-eat! You can download all
the videos Google has stored over 3G with iPhone because it's UNLIMITED.
I've been told that by the fanbois over and over....UNLIMITED.

It's unlimited until you wanna DO SOMETHING.....(c;

>
> My aunt wanted to by my uncle a iPhone. They do not have Internet
> where they live. I had to break the bad news to her that she cant use
> it to get the apps. She kept telling me the salesman kept telling her
> that they could do anything they wanted with it.

Atty General Cuomo from NY needs to attack ATTWS like he did Verizon and
stop the false advertising and false statements to customers.

>
> I then dragged my friend that owns one and show her you can't get all
> apps from the app store. After a few days the salesman calls her back
> to tell her he was going to throw in a 12V charger if she bought it
> from him. She tells him what she found out and the guy lied and said
> there must have been something wrong with his phone.

I never deal with sellphone people without taking a credible witness with
me to hear what I heard....so he can tell it to the mediator or judge.

>
> You can dl Flashlight apps thru 3G but try to get anything big and
> that unlimited plan sure has limits.
>
Hmm...must be filtering on file size. Wonder what the LIMIT is?

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:uLw3l.11369$be.11286@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:

> Now with the iPhone out. It's looking like AT&T is using the same
> playbook that Verizon used.
>
>
>

I'm not sure even ATT could be that dispicable. I was a VZW customer, too,
when they bought up Cellular One AKA GTE Wireless. I clung to my AMPS
phones as long as I could to keep them from shutting down roaming on Alltel
N of Charleston where Verizon had no service at the time. They couldn't
shut down the AMPS phones or control who they connected to......

Now, Alltel is being consumed by the Beast and I'll probably be forced to
look for another new home before Wimax gets installed to kick their sorry
asses....all of them.

SELLphone companies are the reason it's not already in the USA....

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:vpB3l.11198$c45.59@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com:

> "nospam" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:211220081724364066%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>> In article <bsw3l.11367$be.5506@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver
>> <kevinkeithweaver.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at
>>> apps. He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop
>>> up tells him
>>> he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has
>>> limits.
>>
>> the apps store works just fine over 3g, with the only limit being
>> apps over 10 meg. the vast majority of apps are under 10 meg, with
>> most under 1 meg.
>
>
>
> But there are apps that cant be downloaded. Why not with a Unlimited
> plan ? You fail to tell me why that is. With unlimited there should be
> no limit.
>
>

I'm trying to grasp why downloading 10MB of data is such a threat to ATT's
flimsy system THEY feel it is too much for the system, and therefore must
be blocked!

10MB is nothing!

Todd Allcock <elecconnec RemoveThis @AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
news:XNK3l.34$fs1.4@newsfe05.iad:

> Um, yes. It's called "backwards compatibility" but that's never meant
> much to Apple...
>
>

Ask any MAC owner wanting a new MAC but with two firewire drives full of
his stuff....

At 22 Dec 2008 10:32:24 -0500 nospam wrote:
> i don't
> know why there's a 10 meg limit on apps.

For the same reason you need WiFi to download iTunes purchases: the cellcos
are Aple's primary customers- you are secondary...

(An attitude in mobile telephony not unique to Apple, BTW. But you should
get used to it.)