News: Details on iPhone at Walmart

Ron <ron.clifford.DeleteThis@peoplepc.com> wrote in
news:ncjkk45gcvp668lq92tooqllqi3es4a91a@4ax.com:

> http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/17/leaked-walmart-memo-details-iphone-p
> ilot-launch-program/

12/17 was yesterday. I read somewhere else that Walmart doesn't get them
until AFTER Christmas, Dec 27th. This manager was dreaming, I suppose, or
had been lied to, not unheard of at Wally World.

nospam <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in
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> In article <Xns9B7886D8D85F2noonehomecom RemoveThis @74.209.131.13>, Larry
> <noone RemoveThis @home.com> wrote:
>
>> > http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/17/leaked-walmart-memo-details-iphon
>> > e-p ilot-launch-program/
>>
>> Great blog. Great reasons NOT to buy one, too:
>>
>> http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/17/iphone-dev-spends-500k-on-developme
>> nt- still-not-approved-by-apple/
>>
>> 500 Grand down the drain until the Blackberry version goes online.
>
> and for every one of those stories there are hundreds of apps that get
> posted and sell. the guy who wrote trism made $250,000 in three
> months. another company made more money selling iphone software in
> the past six months than they did for *all other platforms* in the
> last twenty years.
>

Shows how truly stupid the human race has become, doesn't it?

nospam <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:191220081842305688%
nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid:

> why? the companies created apps people wanted and *lots* of people
> bought them. it's the american way.
>
>

Not quite. The people want Flash and Realmedia and Windows media for
STREAMING, too......like they have on their laptops.

Pfat Chance....

.....oh, they also want cut and paste....(c;]

"nospam" <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <Xns9B79C77117503noonehomecom DeleteThis @74.209.131.13>, Larry
> <noone DeleteThis @home.com> wrote:
>
>> > why? the companies created apps people wanted and *lots* of people
>> > bought them. it's the american way.
>>
>> Not quite.
>
> yes quite.
>
>> The people want Flash and Realmedia and Windows media for
>> STREAMING, too......like they have on their laptops.
>
> what evidence do you have that people want that? just because *you*
> want it doesn't mean everyone else does. plus it's up to real to write
> an iphone app if they want.

Real can write it, but will apple allow it ?
Flash can be ported over as well. Will apple allow it ?
There has to be a reason there is no flash support. I'm thinking the CPU
Cant take the strain.

Try going to a flash web site and you get nothing on a iPhone.

One of the biggest request for the iPhone is MMS. Lord only knows why after
18 Plus months there is still no MMS Support.

iPhone users need more flashlight apps.

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:42:28 -0800, "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"nospam" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>news:201220080236576627%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>> In article <Xns9B79C77117503noonehomecom.DeleteThis@74.209.131.13>, Larry
>> <noone.DeleteThis@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > why? the companies created apps people wanted and *lots* of people
>>> > bought them. it's the american way.
>>>
>>> Not quite.
>>
>> yes quite.
>>
>>> The people want Flash and Realmedia and Windows media for
>>> STREAMING, too......like they have on their laptops.
>>
>> what evidence do you have that people want that? just because *you*
>> want it doesn't mean everyone else does. plus it's up to real to write
>> an iphone app if they want.

Wrong guess. Adobe is currently writing it.


>
>Real can write it, but will apple allow it ?
>Flash can be ported over as well. Will apple allow it ?
>There has to be a reason there is no flash support. I'm thinking the CPU
>Cant take the strain.
>
>Try going to a flash web site and you get nothing on a iPhone.
>
>One of the biggest request for the iPhone is MMS. Lord only knows why after
>18 Plus months there is still no MMS Support.
>
>iPhone users need more flashlight apps.

On Dec 20, 9:15 am, Larry <no... DeleteThis @home.com> wrote:
> nospam <nos... DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in news:201220080236576627%
> nos... DeleteThis @nospam.invalid:
>
>
>
> > In article <Xns9B79C77117503noonehome... DeleteThis @74.209.131.13>, Larry
> > <no... DeleteThis @home.com> wrote:
>
> >> > why?  the companies created apps people wanted and *lots* of people
> >> > bought them.  it's the american way.
>
> >> Not quite.  
>
> > yes quite.
>
> >> The people want Flash and Realmedia and Windows media for
> >> STREAMING, too......like they have on their laptops.
>
> > what evidence do you have that people want that?  just because *you*
> > want it doesn't mean everyone else does.  plus it's up to real to write
> > an iphone app if they want.
>
> This isn't a court.  But, EVERY iPhone owner who has seen me watching
> streaming media on the Nokia N800 Linux tablets wants it....badly.  Is that
> a fair representation, a completely random sampling of iPhone users?  Storm
> users want it to, but my forensic lab report hasn't hit my desk, yet.
>
> Outside of you, and the usual company fanboi shills posted here, not a
> single iPhone user, even the salesmen at the Apple kiosk at Best Buy, has
> said he DIDN'T want to be able to play those common, intensely-used
> streaming codecs on his iPhone.  NOT ONE!
>
> I'd like to think that is all the evidence I need to present...especially
> to you.

ha, ha!

http://digg.com/apple/Live_streaming_on_the_iPhone_2

Livestation demonstrates live streaming on the iPhone. Watch from the
start at www.livestation.com/iphone

iPhone Preview English is included with your main Livestation channel
pack, available when you download the Livestation player.

On Dec 20, 9:51 am, Larry <no....RemoveThis@home.com> wrote:
> iPhone 3Gold <vic.hea....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote innews:ac58c8f0-a7eb-48c4-8d33-4e3cfa0c805a@v42g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > ha, ha!
>
> >http://digg.com/apple/Live_streaming_on_the_iPhone_2
>
> > Livestation demonstrates live streaming on the iPhone. Watch from the
> > start atwww.livestation.com/iphone
>
> > iPhone Preview English is included with your main Livestation channel
> > pack, available when you download the Livestation player.
>
> But, once again, we're talking about a CONVERTER, not a codec.  Livestation
> is converting common formats to the very limited ability of the iPhone to
> play.  And, of course, this is, after the beta period is over, going to
> COST you EXTRA, probably through your ATT bill so they can justify letting
> it use bandwidth.
>
> Another BOX OFFICE product for more and more profit.....not a real codec
> you can stream UNCONTROLLED like Flash, Realmedia, mms, wmv on a wide
> variety of webpages across the planet.
>
> Where are the CODECS?

Give it a rest Larry. LiveStation is an improved way of streaming live
video. I am testing it as I type this.
Works just as good as any other solution I have seen. I am watching a
terrorist attack live on one of the middle eastern channels.

Too bad so sad for the jhidists it looks like the all got gunned down
with at least one cop still standing and a bunch more hurting or dead.

It is a little hard following the narrative since it is in Arabic.

What is really neat is that the underwater INTERNET fiber feed from
this area was cut yesterday so this has to be from a satellite feed.

LiveStation also transmits radio station audio feeds like several
other streaming applications all ready do on the iPhone.
LiveStation's, which is partially owned by Microsoft, claim to fame it
it does video too.

"Ron" <ron.clifford.TakeThisOut@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:42:28 -0800, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"nospam" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:201220080236576627%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>>> In article <Xns9B79C77117503noonehomecom.TakeThisOut@74.209.131.13>, Larry
>>> <noone.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > why? the companies created apps people wanted and *lots* of people
>>>> > bought them. it's the american way.
>>>>
>>>> Not quite.
>>>
>>> yes quite.
>>>
>>>> The people want Flash and Realmedia and Windows media for
>>>> STREAMING, too......like they have on their laptops.
>>>
>>> what evidence do you have that people want that? just because *you*
>>> want it doesn't mean everyone else does. plus it's up to real to write
>>> an iphone app if they want.
>
> Wrong guess. Adobe is currently writing it.
>
>
>>
>>Real can write it, but will apple allow it ?
>>Flash can be ported over as well. Will apple allow it ?
>>There has to be a reason there is no flash support. I'm thinking the CPU
>>Cant take the strain.
>>
>>Try going to a flash web site and you get nothing on a iPhone.
>>
>>One of the biggest request for the iPhone is MMS. Lord only knows why
>>after
>>18 Plus months there is still no MMS Support.
>>
>>iPhone users need more flashlight apps.

And like I said. Is apple going to allow it ? I'm sure It will be allowed as
Adobe would not do it unless Apple already ok'ed it.

What about MMS ? Has to be some reason why for that as well.

More Flashlight apps please.

"iPhone 3Gold" <vic.healey.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 9:51 am, Larry <no....TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
> iPhone 3Gold <vic.hea....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote
> innews:ac58c8f0-a7eb-48c4-8d33-4e3cfa0c805a@v42g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > ha, ha!
>
> >http://digg.com/apple/Live_streaming_on_the_iPhone_2
>
> > Livestation demonstrates live streaming on the iPhone. Watch from the
> > start atwww.livestation.com/iphone
>
> > iPhone Preview English is included with your main Livestation channel
> > pack, available when you download the Livestation player.
>
> But, once again, we're talking about a CONVERTER, not a codec. Livestation
> is converting common formats to the very limited ability of the iPhone to
> play. And, of course, this is, after the beta period is over, going to
> COST you EXTRA, probably through your ATT bill so they can justify letting
> it use bandwidth.
>
> Another BOX OFFICE product for more and more profit.....not a real codec
> you can stream UNCONTROLLED like Flash, Realmedia, mms, wmv on a wide
> variety of webpages across the planet.
>
> Where are the CODECS?

Give it a rest Larry. LiveStation is an improved way of streaming live
video. I am testing it as I type this.
Works just as good as any other solution I have seen. I am watching a
terrorist attack live on one of the middle eastern channels.

On the iPhone ?
Where is this download ?

Too bad so sad for the jhidists it looks like the all got gunned down
with at least one cop still standing and a bunch more hurting or dead.

It is a little hard following the narrative since it is in Arabic.

What is really neat is that the underwater INTERNET fiber feed from
this area was cut yesterday so this has to be from a satellite feed.

LiveStation also transmits radio station audio feeds like several
other streaming applications all ready do on the iPhone.
LiveStation's, which is partially owned by Microsoft, claim to fame it
it does video too.

nospam <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in news:201220080236576627%
nospam DeleteThis @nospam.invalid:

> In article <Xns9B79C77117503noonehomecom DeleteThis @74.209.131.13>, Larry
> <noone DeleteThis @home.com> wrote:
>
>> > why? the companies created apps people wanted and *lots* of people
>> > bought them. it's the american way.
>>
>> Not quite.
>
> yes quite.
>
>> The people want Flash and Realmedia and Windows media for
>> STREAMING, too......like they have on their laptops.
>
> what evidence do you have that people want that? just because *you*
> want it doesn't mean everyone else does. plus it's up to real to write
> an iphone app if they want.
>

This isn't a court. But, EVERY iPhone owner who has seen me watching
streaming media on the Nokia N800 Linux tablets wants it....badly. Is that
a fair representation, a completely random sampling of iPhone users? Storm
users want it to, but my forensic lab report hasn't hit my desk, yet.

Outside of you, and the usual company fanboi shills posted here, not a
single iPhone user, even the salesmen at the Apple kiosk at Best Buy, has
said he DIDN'T want to be able to play those common, intensely-used
streaming codecs on his iPhone. NOT ONE!

I'd like to think that is all the evidence I need to present...especially
to you.

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:o_33l.14937
$ZP4.9676@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com:

> There has to be a reason there is no flash support. I'm thinking the CPU
> Cant take the strain.
>
>

There is no streaming support because of AT&T Wireless, not Apple. ATT
will do anything to prevent the iPhone from using BANDWIDTH, and evidence
of that is the total lack of 3G streaming on iPhone. Notice how some
"features" automatically get turned on when you connect it to a wifi
node....further evidence it's ATT's hobbling.

Hey! It's a SELLphone! It's hobbled up just like all the other
SELLphones!........to maximize carrier profits with a minimum investment in
bandwidth and infrastructure.

Chickens will come to roost. Wimax does over 6.5Mbps down and 2.5Mbps up
in Baltimore, on a laptop on the street.....Patience, my son, patience....
(c;]

http://www.wimaxmaps.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-4452iM8r8&feature=related

Works great in Amsterdam.....

Damned Americans are FOOTDRAGGING....

iPhone 3Gold <vic.healey RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
news:ac58c8f0-a7eb-48c4-8d33-4e3cfa0c805a@v42g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:

>
> ha, ha!
>
> http://digg.com/apple/Live_streaming_on_the_iPhone_2
>
> Livestation demonstrates live streaming on the iPhone. Watch from the
> start at www.livestation.com/iphone
>
> iPhone Preview English is included with your main Livestation channel
> pack, available when you download the Livestation player.
>

But, once again, we're talking about a CONVERTER, not a codec. Livestation
is converting common formats to the very limited ability of the iPhone to
play. And, of course, this is, after the beta period is over, going to
COST you EXTRA, probably through your ATT bill so they can justify letting
it use bandwidth.

Another BOX OFFICE product for more and more profit.....not a real codec
you can stream UNCONTROLLED like Flash, Realmedia, mms, wmv on a wide
variety of webpages across the planet.

Where are the CODECS?

"nospam" <nospam DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:201220081708082618%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article <o_33l.14937$ZP4.9676@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com>, Kevin Weaver
> <kevinkeithweaver DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Real can write it, but will apple allow it ?
>
> sure. i don't see any reason why they wouldn't. there are other
> streaming apps already.
>
>> Flash can be ported over as well. Will apple allow it ?
>
> adobe is working on it, but that is a little different than just
> implementing a proprietary codec because you can write apps in flash.
>
>> There has to be a reason there is no flash support. I'm thinking the CPU
>> Cant take the strain.
>
> that's also part of it. users won't like short battery life.
>
>> Try going to a flash web site and you get nothing on a iPhone.
>
> yea and? it doesn't have flash.
>
>> One of the biggest request for the iPhone is MMS. Lord only knows why
>> after
>> 18 Plus months there is still no MMS Support.
>
> actually very few people request mms, particularly since there's email
> which is much more capable. mms is not the greatest protocol either.

Yeah. Keep thinking that. Not everyone has e-mail to get pictures.

So your saying that people are requesting Flash Light apps more then MMS,
Copy and Paste, Flash and so many more apps that come syandard on 95% of
other phones huh ?

>
> probably the biggest request for new features is the notification
> framework which was supposed to be out a few months ago. apple dropped
> the ball big time on that one.