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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:10 am
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Thought you might actually want to be up-to-date on the latest technology
news:
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10453612/1/amazing-4g-speeds-from-a-usb-
modem.html?
puc=_cnnmoney&cm_ven=CNNMONEY&cm_cat=Free&cm_pla=Feed&cm_ite=Feed
After all, you've shown no knowledge of the technology to date, but that
comes as no surprise.
Sounds like there may be some hope for Sprint after all. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:06 am
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The Bob <nospam RemoveThis @bob.com> wrote in
news:Xns9B77CD3E9886Abob@85.214.105.209:
> Thought you might actually want to be up-to-date on the latest
> technology news:
>
> http://www.thestreet.com/story/10453612/1/amazing-4g-speeds-from-a-
usb-
> modem.html?
> puc=_cnnmoney&cm_ven=CNNMONEY&cm_cat=Free&cm_pla=Feed&cm_ite=Feed
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>
> After all, you've shown no knowledge of the technology to date, but
> that comes as no surprise.
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>
> Sounds like there may be some hope for Sprint after all.
>
6.4Mbps down, 2.5Mbps up on Wimax!
That's faster than my friends in the Middle East are seeing on their new
Wimax laptops, where it's already extensively installed. Even Russia is
ahead of us.
So much for the "Wimax is 3G" bullshit spread out by the fanbois.
Wimax may mean the end of SELLphones as we know it.....Unless the
carriers screw it up with limits and hobbling, like always....and a
whole lot of Washington lobbying going on to stop it.
The sellphone carriers involved in Xohm, now called Clear, have a vested
interest to crash-n-trash Wimax. But, other partners, powerful
partners, who want to deliver REAL BANDWIDTH content, like Intel,
Google, and the other NON-SELLphone partners, I hope, can successfully
overcome the "sell it by the megabyte" sellphone bullshit that has
trashed mobile internet in America since it came on the air.
I'm about 8 miles from the beautiful new Google server farm campus in
Goose Creek, SC, a very large investment. Google has made noises of
installing "wifi across the counties" here in Charleston. They're very
secretive about everything up there. The place is guarded like Fort
Knox used to be when we had gold stored there. Even the press can't get
in the building to promote it. There's a huge anti-flooding berm that's
very high to protect the whole site all the way around it and its
blockhouse like buildings.
I'm hoping that "wifi" will be our Wimax install. Google told the
politicians who gave them tax free status for many years they would
provide gifts to the people of SC for those tax free years. Sure wish
Wimax is that gift....
Man, that speedtest is IMPRESSIVE! My poor little Linux tablets would
be just overrun! I got my grubby fingers around the Wimax Nokia N810W a
young man from Costa Rica who sails worldwide bought after seeing my
N800 stuff. It's a beautiful Wimax machine....Skype and all.
Good things are coming..... |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:17 am
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The Bob <nospam.RemoveThis@bob.com> wrote in news:Xns9B77CD3E9886Abob@85.214.105.209:
> Sounds like there may be some hope for Sprint after all.
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It's Clearwire's system, now. Sprint is still one of the partners. So is
Google, which is MOST important. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:21 am
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:10:36 +0000 (UTC), The Bob <nospam.TakeThisOut@bob.com>
wrote:
>Thought you might actually want to be up-to-date on the latest technology
>news:
>
>http://www.thestreet.com/story/10453612/1/amazing-4g-speeds-from-a-usb-
>modem.html?
>puc=_cnnmoney&cm_ven=CNNMONEY&cm_cat=Free&cm_pla=Feed&cm_ite=Feed
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>
>After all, you've shown no knowledge of the technology to date, but that
>comes as no surprise.
>
>
>Sounds like there may be some hope for Sprint after all.
Not if Sprint still uses the Customer Hostile Convergys CRM software
to overwork their CSRs.
And it might be wize to buy PUTs on Bank of America stock, B of A just
started using Convergys, so now you can wait on hold for them too.
It's what I call the Revenge of Countrywide. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:14 am
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On 2008-12-18, Larry <noone.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
> 6.4Mbps down, 2.5Mbps up on Wimax!
>
> That's faster than my friends in the Middle East are seeing on their new
> Wimax laptops, where it's already extensively installed. Even Russia is
> ahead of us.
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> So much for the "Wimax is 3G" bullshit spread out by the fanbois.
See
http://www.wirelessweek.com/WiMAX-is-3G.aspx
The issue with WiMax being "3G" has nothing to do with its
performance and everything to do with WiMax being allowed in
the "3G" 2.5 GHz band in Europe and other places which pay
strict attention to the ITU mode-band choices (i.e. not the USA).
It is good that WiMax is now "3G" because it means there's some
hope that there will be WiMax deployments everywhere in that
band and North America won't once again end up with band allocations
which differ from most of the rest of the world.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:13 pm
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Sorry, I have to satisfy this impulse...
'Deer John Novice' makes me think of taking delivery of a new tractor.
Except that a 'John Deer Invoice' is not free. |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:11 pm
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Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson.RemoveThis@pacbell.net> wrote in
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> On 2008-12-18, Larry <noone.RemoveThis@home.com> wrote:
>> 6.4Mbps down, 2.5Mbps up on Wimax!
>>
>> That's faster than my friends in the Middle East are seeing on their
>> new Wimax laptops, where it's already extensively installed. Even
>> Russia is ahead of us.
>>
>> So much for the "Wimax is 3G" bullshit spread out by the fanbois.
>
> See
>
> http://www.wirelessweek.com/WiMAX-is-3G.aspx
>
> The issue with WiMax being "3G" has nothing to do with its
> performance and everything to do with WiMax being allowed in
> the "3G" 2.5 GHz band in Europe and other places which pay
> strict attention to the ITU mode-band choices (i.e. not the USA).
> It is good that WiMax is now "3G" because it means there's some
> hope that there will be WiMax deployments everywhere in that
> band and North America won't once again end up with band allocations
> which differ from most of the rest of the world.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
>
Who would ever dream USA is a signatory to the ITU, eh?
Now we have a new digital TV system, ATSC. Of course, just like NTSC, it's
far inferior to Europe's digital TV system and we'll be saddled with
inferior TV for 50 more years. |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:11 pm
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:55:45 -0800, Mark Crispin <mrc RemoveThis @panda.com> wrote
in <alpine.OSX.2.00.0812180919230.341 RemoveThis @hsinghsing.panda.com>:
>All NTSC countries use System M, which is 525 lines at 60Hz. A few PAL
>countries, most notably Brazil also use System M. PAL and SECAM countries
>generally use one of a set of TV systems which have 625 lines at 50Hz.
>What this means is that they have 100 more lines of resolution at the
>expense of more flicker.
>
>I have PAL equipment as well as NTSC, and I notice the flicker far more
>than I notice the resolution difference. Europeans are used to it.
Many TVs were built with long persistence phosphors that reduced flicker
at the expense of some smearing of motion.
Another source of flicker is interlacing.
There are now line and scan doublers that eliminate interlacing and
flicker without smearing motion.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:11 pm
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:18:57 -0800, John Navas
<spamfilter1 RemoveThis @navasgroup.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:55:45 -0800, Mark Crispin <mrc RemoveThis @panda.com> wrote
>in <alpine.OSX.2.00.0812180919230.341 RemoveThis @hsinghsing.panda.com>:
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>>All NTSC countries use System M, which is 525 lines at 60Hz. A few PAL
>>countries, most notably Brazil also use System M. PAL and SECAM countries
>>generally use one of a set of TV systems which have 625 lines at 50Hz.
>>What this means is that they have 100 more lines of resolution at the
>>expense of more flicker.
>>
>>I have PAL equipment as well as NTSC, and I notice the flicker far more
>>than I notice the resolution difference. Europeans are used to it.
>
>Many TVs were built with long persistence phosphors that reduced flicker
>at the expense of some smearing of motion.
>
>Another source of flicker is interlacing.
>
>There are now line and scan doublers that eliminate interlacing and
>flicker without smearing motion.
main source of flicker is 120Hz fluorescent Bulbs. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:11 pm
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:01:54 -0600, Ron <ron.clifford RemoveThis @peoplepc.com>
wrote in <6g7lk4ddq1kae7g96n7nfm707be5viu3q9 RemoveThis @4ax.com>:
>On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:18:57 -0800, John Navas
><spamfilter1 RemoveThis @navasgroup.com> wrote:
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>>On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:55:45 -0800, Mark Crispin <mrc RemoveThis @panda.com> wrote
>>in <alpine.OSX.2.00.0812180919230.341 RemoveThis @hsinghsing.panda.com>:
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>>>All NTSC countries use System M, which is 525 lines at 60Hz. A few PAL
>>>countries, most notably Brazil also use System M. PAL and SECAM countries
>>>generally use one of a set of TV systems which have 625 lines at 50Hz.
>>>What this means is that they have 100 more lines of resolution at the
>>>expense of more flicker.
>>>
>>>I have PAL equipment as well as NTSC, and I notice the flicker far more
>>>than I notice the resolution difference. Europeans are used to it.
>>
>>Many TVs were built with long persistence phosphors that reduced flicker
>>at the expense of some smearing of motion.
>>
>>Another source of flicker is interlacing.
>>
>>There are now line and scan doublers that eliminate interlacing and
>>flicker without smearing motion.
>
>main source of flicker is 120Hz fluorescent Bulbs.
Fluorescent flicker at twice mains frequency is not visible to human
perception, but can cause a strobe effect, and can produce headaches and
eyestrain. Flicker is also possible at the mains frequency, which is
noticeable, but typically only at the end of life.
High-frequency ballasts eliminate flicker.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:23 am
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Larry <noone.RemoveThis@home.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:Xns9B782E1BCBC9noonehomecom@74.209.131.13:
> The Bob <nospam.RemoveThis@bob.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9B77CD3E9886Abob@85.214.105.209:
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>> Sounds like there may be some hope for Sprint after all.
>>
>>
>
> It's Clearwire's system, now. Sprint is still one of the partners.
> So is Google, which is MOST important.
>
>
Sprintisn't one of the partners, they are THE partner- 51 % of the company. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:27 am
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Ron <ron.clifford.DeleteThis@peoplepc.com> amazed us all with the following in
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> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:10:36 +0000 (UTC), The Bob <nospam.DeleteThis@bob.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Thought you might actually want to be up-to-date on the latest
>>technology news:
>>
>>http://www.thestreet.com/story/10453612/1/amazing-4g-speeds-from-a-usb-
>>modem.html?
>>puc=_cnnmoney&cm_ven=CNNMONEY&cm_cat=Free&cm_pla=Feed&cm_ite=Feed
>>
>>
>>After all, you've shown no knowledge of the technology to date, but
>>that comes as no surprise.
>>
>>
>>Sounds like there may be some hope for Sprint after all.
>
>
> Not if Sprint still uses the Customer Hostile Convergys CRM software
> to overwork their CSRs.
>
And with that, you show a cluelessness that rivals Novice. Sprint very
publicly dumped Convergys some years ago- probably about the time they got
rid of you as a customer. |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:36 am
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:27:36 +0000 (UTC), The Bob <nospam.DeleteThis@bob.com>
wrote:
>Ron <ron.clifford.DeleteThis@peoplepc.com> amazed us all with the following in
>news:kfjkk4du5g4bi7lsbq1oeh94c68043n2gv@4ax.com:
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>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:10:36 +0000 (UTC), The Bob <nospam.DeleteThis@bob.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Thought you might actually want to be up-to-date on the latest
>>>technology news:
>>>
>>>http://www.thestreet.com/story/10453612/1/amazing-4g-speeds-from-a-usb-
>>>modem.html?
>>>puc=_cnnmoney&cm_ven=CNNMONEY&cm_cat=Free&cm_pla=Feed&cm_ite=Feed
>>>
>>>
>>>After all, you've shown no knowledge of the technology to date, but
>>>that comes as no surprise.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sounds like there may be some hope for Sprint after all.
>>
>>
>> Not if Sprint still uses the Customer Hostile Convergys CRM software
>> to overwork their CSRs.
>>
>
>And with that, you show a cluelessness that rivals Novice. Sprint very
>publicly dumped Convergys some years ago- probably about the time they got
>rid of you as a customer.
Your apology for that clueless insult will be accepted.
Sprint dumped Convergys in 2006 for billing but
still uses Convergys for its CRM software.
Sprint still uses Convergys, maybe its their contractor IBM that pays
Convergfys now, but Sprint still uses Convergys, the folks that track
CSR handle time.
Which is why are they still hemmoraging customers, with by far the
Industries largest CHURN rate and continuing the
worst customer service ratings from Consumer Reports, Yankee Group and
others?
and this Dec, 8, 2008 links
says IBM is using Convergys in the call centers its running
for Sprint.
http://sprintconnection.kansascity.com/?q=node/891
>
>And with that, you show a cluelessness that rivals Novice. Sprint very
>publicly dumped Convergys some years ago- probably about the time they got
>rid of you as a customer. |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:48 pm
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Ron <ron.clifford DeleteThis @peoplepc.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:rj8nk4ppodkq4ms07ij227lor9i9i7v8fs@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:27:36 +0000 (UTC), The Bob <nospam DeleteThis @bob.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Ron <ron.clifford DeleteThis @peoplepc.com> amazed us all with the following in
>>news:kfjkk4du5g4bi7lsbq1oeh94c68043n2gv@4ax.com:
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>>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:10:36 +0000 (UTC), The Bob <nospam DeleteThis @bob.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thought you might actually want to be up-to-date on the latest
>>>>technology news:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.thestreet.com/story/10453612/1/amazing-4g-speeds-from-a-
us
>>>>b- modem.html?
>>>>puc=_cnnmoney&cm_ven=CNNMONEY&cm_cat=Free&cm_pla=Feed&cm_ite=Feed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>After all, you've shown no knowledge of the technology to date, but
>>>>that comes as no surprise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sounds like there may be some hope for Sprint after all.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not if Sprint still uses the Customer Hostile Convergys CRM software
>>> to overwork their CSRs.
>>>
>>
>>And with that, you show a cluelessness that rivals Novice. Sprint
>>very publicly dumped Convergys some years ago- probably about the time
>>they got rid of you as a customer.
>
> Your apology for that clueless insult will be accepted.
No apology needed- I was spot on, trollboi.
>
> Sprint dumped Convergys in 2006 for billing but
> still uses Convergys for its CRM software.
Sprint uses Amdocs technoilogy for everything except call routing.
>
> Sprint still uses Convergys, maybe its their contractor IBM that pays
> Convergfys now, but Sprint still uses Convergys, the folks that track
> CSR handle time.
The folks that track CSR handle time work for Sprint, not Convergys.
THe software used to track Sprint call routing and handling is not
Convergys. How would I know? My job requires frequent contact with
upper level call center management for Sprint (among others). All you
have are your clueless guesses and manipulations of partial fact.
>
> Which is why are they still hemmoraging customers, with by far the
> Industries largest CHURN rate and continuing the
> worst customer service ratings from Consumer Reports, Yankee Group and
> others?
And the quickest call answering response time in the industry.
>
> and this Dec, 8, 2008 links
> says IBM is using Convergys in the call centers its running
> for Sprint.
IBM uses multiple
>
> http://sprintconnection.kansascity.com/?q=node/891
Neither IBM or Convergys is mentioned anywhere on the page. |
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