BlackBerry and Direct Push of Exchange mail

C C wrote:
> Do BlackBerry devices support direct push of mail from an Exchange
> server? (EAS)?
>
> Why pay big bucks to BlackBerry for email push when you can get
> mail directly using EAS?

because it works -

the BB does not have the software to receive the other end of the Exchange
Server push technology
like the other Microsoft mobile enabled devices...
so - no software, no push -

And that Microsoft "push" software, both at the Exchange and the Windows
mobile level
has only been available recently,
whereas the BB adjunct BES server has been around and working for years...

ps56k wrote:
> C C wrote:
>> Do BlackBerry devices support direct push of mail from an Exchange
>> server? (EAS)?
>>
>> Why pay big bucks to BlackBerry for email push when you can get
>> mail directly using EAS?
>
> because it works -
>
> the BB does not have the software to receive the other end of the Exchange
> Server push technology
> like the other Microsoft mobile enabled devices...
> so - no software, no push -
>
> And that Microsoft "push" software, both at the Exchange and the Windows
> mobile level
> has only been available recently,
> whereas the BB adjunct BES server has been around and working for years...
>
>
>
>
Yes, it works well and unlike the MS version you have great control over
all of the devices via the BES. Both of those are the reason why the BB
is an enterprise class device.

At 04 Dec 2008 15:57:46 -0600 ps56k wrote:
> C C wrote:
> > Do BlackBerry devices support direct push of mail from an Exchange
> > server? (EAS)?
> >
> > Why pay big bucks to BlackBerry for email push when you can get
> > mail directly using EAS?
>
> because it works -
>
> the BB does not have the software to receive the other end of the
Exchange
> Server push technology
> like the other Microsoft mobile enabled devices...
> so - no software, no push -
>
> And that Microsoft "push" software, both at the Exchange and the Windows
> mobile level
> has only been available recently,
> whereas the BB adjunct BES server has been around and working for years...


They didn't have as big a head start as you think. RIM sold email only
Blackberries sine 1999, but the Blackberry phone has only been with us
since 2002. Microsoft has offered EAS on WinMobile since 2003. Before
they offered Direct Push in WM5 devices in 2005, they offered push prior to
that by using a "silent" SMS trigger system to initiate email retrieval
from the device. (The device received a special text message that didn't
display on the device to trigger a sync. Silent SMS is also how GSM phones
trigger the voicemail indicator.) The downside of that system was that you
really needed both a data plan and a text messaging plan (or you paid for a
lot of SMS messages- one for every email that hit your Exchange inbox!)

Direct push eliminated the SMS trigger requirement and made EAS push more
palatable and economical, since you no longer needed a texting plan.

At 04 Dec 2008 18:17:15 -0500 George wrote:


> Yes, it works well and unlike the MS version you have great control
> over all of the devices via the BES. Both of those are the reason
> why the BB is an enterprise class device.

That has changed in recent years. Exchange 2007 and WM6 offers Blackberry-
style control- remote administration, remote wipe, password policy
controls, etc.

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:32:02 -0700, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec DeleteThis @AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

>At 04 Dec 2008 18:17:15 -0500 George wrote:
>
>
>> Yes, it works well and unlike the MS version you have great control
>> over all of the devices via the BES. Both of those are the reason
>> why the BB is an enterprise class device.
>
>That has changed in recent years. Exchange 2007 and WM6 offers Blackberry-
>style control- remote administration, remote wipe, password policy
>controls, etc.

How original.