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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:53 pm
Post subject: Re: non-Latin-1 in iCab 3 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<Pine.GSO.4.44.0607311529210.1102-100000.DeleteThis@s5b004.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <nhtcapri.DeleteThis@rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
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> > Is this a proper test:
> > <http://santek.no-ip.org/~st/tests/iCab/characters/bidi/>? If so, the
> > latest iCab 3 fails it, as it displays the text left to right. Safari
> > displays it right to left.
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> More interesting is the question whether your browsers display
> the paragraph left-aligned or right-aligned. What do you get?
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> left-aligned?
That's what the current iCab 3 does, yes.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:20 pm
Post subject: Re: non-Latin-1 in iCab 3 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<Pine.GSO.4.44.0607281644260.6978-100000 RemoveThis @s5b004.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <nhtcapri RemoveThis @rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
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> > Yes, but all the text editors I tried (BBEdit 7.x, TextWrangler 2.1.3,
> > TextEdit, emacs, SubEthaEdit) can't display many of the 'special'
> > characters in the source of your pages, so I couldn't verify in which
> > order you had written the parenthesis.
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> You can look at the source text with Mozilla or Firefox.
Ah, yes, that works.
Any idea where things might go wrong with those editors? I can enter
hebrew characters in TextEdit and TextWrangler, but for some reason they
cannot display the hebrew characters that are in
<http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/multilingual1.html>.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:37 pm
Post subject: Re: non-Latin-1 in iCab 3 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
>>> <http://santek.no-ip.org/~st/tests/iCab/characters/bidi/>
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>> More interesting is the question whether your browsers display
>> the paragraph left-aligned or right-aligned. What do you get?
>> left-aligned?
>
> That's what the current iCab 3 does, yes.
So authors should add "text-align: right" for right-to-left text
in addition to "dir=rtl".
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/charset/text-direction.html#other |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:56 pm
Post subject: Re: non-Latin-1 in iCab 3 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
> Any idea where things might go wrong with those editors? I can enter
> hebrew characters in TextEdit and TextWrangler, but for some reason they
> cannot display the hebrew characters that are in
> <http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/multilingual1.html>.
I don't quite understand what you mean. Do you save this file
to your disk and open it with your editors? Perhaps you lost
the encoding "charset=UTF-8". Can you manually select UTF-8 as
encoding? Or try
http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/multilingual2.html
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:30 pm
Post subject: Re: non-Latin-1 in iCab 3 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<Pine.GSO.4.44.0608031852420.5467-100000 RemoveThis @s5b004.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <nhtcapri RemoveThis @rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote:
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> [...] Perhaps you lost
> the encoding "charset=UTF-8". Can you manually select UTF-8 as
> encoding?
Ah, yes. I feel silly now  That was all it took.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:39 pm
Post subject: Re: non-Latin-1 in iCab 3 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<Pine.GSO.4.44.0608031835320.5409-100000.RemoveThis@s5b004.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <nhtcapri.RemoveThis@rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
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> >>> <http://santek.no-ip.org/~st/tests/iCab/characters/bidi/>
[... left-aligned by iCab 3 ..]
> So authors should add "text-align: right" for right-to-left text
> in addition to "dir=rtl".
> http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/charset/text-direction.html#other
IMO that would be more appropriate for a browser's built-in Style Sheet
-- not something for webpublishers to 'fix'.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:22 pm
Post subject: Re: non-Latin-1 in iCab 3 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
>> So authors should add "text-align: right" for right-to-left text
>> in addition to "dir=rtl".
>> http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/charset/text-direction.html#other
>
> IMO that would be more appropriate for a browser's built-in Style Sheet
> -- not something for webpublishers to 'fix'.
It is *never wrong* to add "text-align: right" when this is intended.
It is not a "fix" or makeshift. |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:13 pm
Post subject: Re: non-Latin-1 in iCab 3 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<Pine.GSO.4.44.0608071718490.15524-100000 RemoveThis @s5b004.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <nhtcapri RemoveThis @rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
>
> >> So authors should add "text-align: right" for right-to-left text
> >> in addition to "dir=rtl".
> >> http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/charset/text-direction.html#other
> >
> > IMO that would be more appropriate for a browser's built-in Style Sheet
> > -- not something for webpublishers to 'fix'.
>
> It is *never wrong* to add "text-align: right" when this is intended.
> It is not a "fix" or makeshift.
Agreed.
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