what's oldest (OS) hard drive that can be put in a G3 or l..

My bad.

She needs the data off this drive is why we're investigating getting it into a G3?? model.

Can you give me an idea of OS SOFTWARE compatability between this tower mid 90's Mac and a
late 90's Mac (g3?) as it relates to getting data off this drive.

JL

"Fred McKenzie" <fmmck DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <YCLMf.40986$H71.18284@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, "Jim
> Lewandowski" <jlewand DeleteThis @nospamameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> She has an old Mac from probably the mid 90's and it's no longer working
> (power supply or
>> something). What are the chances of removing this HD from this old Mac
> and putting into
>> something like a G3 (circa late 90's?) and allowing the newer MAC OS to
> recognize and
>> access it?
>
> JL-
>
> Chances are good, but you will need more specific information about models.
>
> I think most of the G3s used a 3 1/2 inch ATA HD. To replace one, you get
> a new one, configure the (master/slave/cable select) jumper the same as
> the old one, and it should work.
>
> As far as installing a second drive in the same cabinet, the first would
> probably be configured as "master" and the second as "slave". However,
> there were a few G3 models that may have had space for a second drive, but
> just wouldn't work with two. My Beige G3-266 Minitower is such a machine.
>
> The easiest approach may be to purchase an external 3 1/2" HD enclosure.
> You might need to add a USB-2 and/or a FireWire PCI card to the machine if
> the capability doesn't already exist. If the enclosure has a FireWire
> interface, it may be bootable depending on the chip set it has. There are
> some external enclosures with both FireWire and USB-2.
>
> Fred

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"Neill Massello" <neillmassello.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Jim Lewandowski <jlewand.TakeThisOut@nospamameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> I don't have the 2 Macs in front of me (this is for a friend).
>>
>> She has an old Mac from probably the mid 90's and it's no longer working
>> (power supply or something). What are the chances of removing this HD
>> from this old Mac and putting into something like a G3 (circa late 90's?)
>> and allowing the newer MAC OS to recognize and access it?
>
> For specs on Mac hardware, please download Mactracker
> <http://www.mactracker.ca>.
>
> A PowerMac from the mid 1990s will probably have a SCSI internal hard
> drive.

***
I think hers might even be earlier than this by a few years.


A Performa could have an ATA drive. The beige G3 models used ATA
> hard drives and had built-in SCSI controllers; but using a SCSI hard
> disk internally in one might be difficult or impossible depending on the
> particular model. External SCSI enclosures are still available, but it
> would be cheaper and easier to transfer the data from an old Mac's SCSI
> drive to the "new" Mac via network file sharing.
***
It doesn't matter if we can install the old HD inside the newER Mac, but just a boot to
get data off.

Do you know if there are any filemanagement SOFTWARE release issues of reading this old
mid 90's HD?


A SCSI drive from a
> mid-1990s PowerMac will be 2GB or smaller and not really worth using any
> more.

***
It's an issue of getting valuable data off the old drive.

JL

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Jim Lewandowski <jlewand.TakeThisOut@nospamameritech.net> wrote:

> Can you give me an idea of OS SOFTWARE compatability between this tower
> mid 90's Mac and a late 90's Mac (g3?) as it relates to getting data off
> this drive.

As long as you don''t tell us what model this "ower mid 90's Mac" is, I
think it is just pike playing lotto...

The "OS Software" is not that important. Important is to know whether
you can connect the drive to a more recent model physically (means,
whether it is a SCSI or an IDE/ATA drive.

Christian.

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In article <YCLMf.40986$H71.18284@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, "Jim
Lewandowski" <jlewand RemoveThis @nospamameritech.net> wrote:

> I don't have the 2 Macs in front of me (this is for a friend).
>
> She has an old Mac from probably the mid 90's and it's no longer working
(power supply or
> something). What are the chances of removing this HD from this old Mac
and putting into
> something like a G3 (circa late 90's?) and allowing the newer MAC OS to
recognize and
> access it?

JL-

The newer Macintosh may not be able to boot from the older Operating
System unless it had been updated. Once you find a way to transfer data,
you can drag-copy all of the contents of the old HD into a new folder on
the new Mac. Inside its System Folder, you would throw away the old
System and Finder files to keep them from interfering with the newer
system. Then you could transfer any Extensions, Preferences and other
files from the old System Folder that are needed to support the old
programs on the newer computer, and move the old programs to a more
convenient location. (That might be the Applications (Mac OS 9) folder in
the case of OS 9.)

I think you have established that it is definitely possible to rescue the
data from the old hard drive. But do you have the hardware needed to do
it? Depending on the design of the two Macs, it may or may not be
possible to install the old HD inside the newer Mac.

While some of us happen to have older equipment laying around (including
external SCSI and ide HD enclosures), you may not. For a one-time rescue,
it may be easier to find a store with a good Macintosh technician. People
who staff the big Apple Computer stores may know how, but may not have
access to the older hardware needed. Do you know of a smaller store that
services Macintosh computers? For example, Melbourne, Florida, happens to
have an outstanding technician at the Connecting Point computer store, who
would probably make quick work of it.

Otherwise, look for a Macintosh Computer club or User Group in your area.

Fred

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, nospam wrote:
>
> older macs were mostly scsi drives, although some of the lower end
> models were ide. therefore, it is important to know which macs are
> involved. the new mac is ide and won't have scsi support unless it is
> a beige g3 or blue/white with the optional scsi card.

FWIW, I have a Beige G3/333AV tower I set up strictly for music
production. OS 9.1, ProTools 5, Finale. That's it. It is one lean,
mean, machine! Anyway, inside I have 4 devices: The original SCSI 9g hd
and ATA CD-ROM, and I added an ATA 40g hd and ATA CD-RW. All 4 work
together like a charm. (In addition to the external scsi scanner and Jaz
drive.) If your G3 has internal scsi you should have no problem. If
not, I think you could probably find a scsi card pretty cheap.
Anyone else?

MK