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The New Guy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:36 pm
Post subject: mdimport and Spotlight
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So mdimport is related to Spotlight and Spotlight is probably
resorting stuff after the backup. This is no good as its a resource
hog. Then I thought of something. What if I used the Compare feature
in backup software and just backed up what I've touched since the last
backup? That wouldn't take much time at all. Then there is no
reindexing of Spotlight. I'd kind of like to kill Spotlight
altogether but I do use it once in a while. I wonder how long it will
take to index about 220 gbs of files?

Update: I just disabled the backup hard drive (in System Preferences,
Spotlight, Privacy) and POOF, mdimport is using almost no resources.
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Gregory Weston

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:22 pm
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In article
<replytogroup-E134AF.20365404102007 RemoveThis @news.lga.highwinds-media.com>,
The New Guy <replytogroup RemoveThis @here.thanks> wrote:

> So mdimport is related to Spotlight

mdimport is the process that is invoked whenever a file is created or
changed (or run manually). It identifies the type of the specified file
(within a developer-extensible hierarchical type system called UTI) and
compares that type to the list of claimed types exported by the set of
installed importer plugins. The plugin that most specifically matches
the detected file type is invoked to populate a structure with all the
metadata it wants, and then that metadata is stored by mdimport.

> and Spotlight is probably
> resorting stuff after the backup.

Resorting?

Oh, you mean reindexing, right? If your backup process consists of
duplicating files to another mountable device, then yes Spotlight will
index any new or changed files on that device unless it has been told
not to.

G
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The New Guy

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:59 pm
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> > So mdimport is related to Spotlight
>
> mdimport is the process that is invoked whenever a file is created or
> changed (or run manually). It identifies the type of the specified file
> (within a developer-extensible hierarchical type system called UTI) and
> compares that type to the list of claimed types exported by the set of
> installed importer plugins. The plugin that most specifically matches
> the detected file type is invoked to populate a structure with all the
> metadata it wants, and then that metadata is stored by mdimport.
>
> > and Spotlight is probably
> > resorting stuff after the backup.
>
> Resorting?
> Oh, you mean reindexing, right?

Yes.

> If your backup process consists of
> duplicating files to another mountable device, then yes Spotlight will
> index any new or changed files on that device unless it has been told
> not to.

Yes - this is all starting to make sense now.
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David Empson

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:31 pm
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The New Guy <replytogroup RemoveThis @here.thanks> wrote:

> So mdimport is related to Spotlight and Spotlight is probably
> resorting stuff after the backup. This is no good as its a resource
> hog. Then I thought of something. What if I used the Compare feature
> in backup software and just backed up what I've touched since the last
> backup? That wouldn't take much time at all.

That's a good reason to use features like SuperDuper's Smart Update,
which only copies changed files (after the initial full backup).
Spotlight will only need to reindex the changed files, which will take a
lot less time.

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William Mitchell

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:31 pm
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dempson.RemoveThis@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) writes:

> The New Guy <replytogroup.RemoveThis@here.thanks> wrote:
>
> > So mdimport is related to Spotlight and Spotlight is probably
> > resorting stuff after the backup. This is no good as its a resource
> > hog. Then I thought of something. What if I used the Compare feature
> > in backup software and just backed up what I've touched since the last
> > backup? That wouldn't take much time at all.
>
> That's a good reason to use features like SuperDuper's Smart Update,
> which only copies changed files (after the initial full backup).
> Spotlight will only need to reindex the changed files, which will take a
> lot less time.

I believe that you can turn off indexing on the backup Volume - which
you probably want to do since there is nothing new there.

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PO Box 118105, Gainesville, FL 32611--8105
mitchell.RemoveThis@math.ufl.edu (352) 392-0281 x284
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The New Guy

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:31 pm
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> > So mdimport is related to Spotlight and Spotlight is probably
> > resorting stuff after the backup. This is no good as its a resource
> > hog. Then I thought of something. What if I used the Compare feature
> > in backup software and just backed up what I've touched since the last
> > backup? That wouldn't take much time at all.
>
> That's a good reason to use features like SuperDuper's Smart Update,
> which only copies changed files (after the initial full backup).
> Spotlight will only need to reindex the changed files, which will take a
> lot less time.

I was trying that with Silverkeeper and it just flies through files
that haven't been touched. Its really working well now.
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The New Guy

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:31 pm
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> > > So mdimport is related to Spotlight and Spotlight is probably
> > > resorting stuff after the backup. This is no good as its a resource
> > > hog. Then I thought of something. What if I used the Compare feature
> > > in backup software and just backed up what I've touched since the last
> > > backup? That wouldn't take much time at all.
> >
> > That's a good reason to use features like SuperDuper's Smart Update,
> > which only copies changed files (after the initial full backup).
> > Spotlight will only need to reindex the changed files, which will take a
> > lot less time.
>
> I believe that you can turn off indexing on the backup Volume - which
> you probably want to do since there is nothing new there.

Yes - did that in the Privacy settings. Just added that external
drive. Worked perfectly.
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Simon Slavin

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:36 pm
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On 04/10/2007, The New Guy wrote in message <replytogroup-
E134AF.20365404102007 DeleteThis @news.lga.highwinds-media.com>:

> Update: I just disabled the backup hard drive

How is that hard drive connected to the computer ?

Simon.
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The New Guy

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:43 am
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> > Update: I just disabled the backup hard drive in Spotlight Preferences (Privacy).
>
> How is that hard drive connected to the computer ?

Its in a removable hard drive rack on the same IDE channel as the
source hard drive.
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