Windows Server 2003 with Mac clients

Hi Bill
very many thanks for your advice.

Paul

"William Smith" <mecklists RemoveThis @REM0VETH1S.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:uZpbMJeFIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Paul wrote:
>> I have to install a Windows 2003 Server with MS Services for Macintosh
>> (SFM)
>> The Share or the Folder wich I create should be accessible paralell from
>> Windows / Linux and Mac clients
>> Anyone already have to do something like that?
>
> Don't use File Services for Macintosh. It AFP code, which is still at
> version 2.2, hasn't been updated in years and has compatibility issues
> with Mac OS X's version of AFP, which is version 3.2.
>
> Use a third party application on the server such as Group Logic's
> ExtremeZ-IP <http://www.grouplogic.com> or use a third party appication on
> the Macs such as Dave from Thursby <http://www.thursby.com>.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> --
>
> bill
>
> William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
> Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
> Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

Paul <pschaerz.RemoveThis@usa.net> wrote:

> Hi Bill
> very many thanks for your advice.
>

Hi Paul
Have you considered just using SMB/CIFS? It's built in.

> "William Smith" <mecklists.RemoveThis@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uZpbMJeFIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Paul wrote:
> >> I have to install a Windows 2003 Server with MS Services for Macintosh
> >> (SFM)
> >> The Share or the Folder wich I create should be accessible paralell from
> >> Windows / Linux and Mac clients
> >> Anyone already have to do something like that?
> >
> > Don't use File Services for Macintosh. It AFP code, which is still at
> > version 2.2, hasn't been updated in years and has compatibility issues
> > with Mac OS X's version of AFP, which is version 3.2.
> >
> > Use a third party application on the server such as Group Logic's
> > ExtremeZ-IP <http://www.grouplogic.com> or use a third party appication on
> > the Macs such as Dave from Thursby <http://www.thursby.com>.
> >



--
I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines
to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour

Hi Anders
What do you then recommend Enterprises with 5000 Users wich are productive
and collaborate with others, securely share Files, have a centralised
Managament??

""Anders Eklöf"" <andekl_no.RemoveThis@saaf_spam.se> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Paul <pschaerz.RemoveThis@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill
>> very many thanks for your advice.
>>
>
> Hi Paul
> Have you considered just using SMB/CIFS? It's built in.
>
>> "William Smith" <mecklists.RemoveThis@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:uZpbMJeFIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > Paul wrote:
>> >> I have to install a Windows 2003 Server with MS Services for Macintosh
>> >> (SFM)
>> >> The Share or the Folder wich I create should be accessible paralell
>> >> from
>> >> Windows / Linux and Mac clients
>> >> Anyone already have to do something like that?
>> >
>> > Don't use File Services for Macintosh. It AFP code, which is still at
>> > version 2.2, hasn't been updated in years and has compatibility issues
>> > with Mac OS X's version of AFP, which is version 3.2.
>> >
>> > Use a third party application on the server such as Group Logic's
>> > ExtremeZ-IP <http://www.grouplogic.com> or use a third party appication
>> > on
>> > the Macs such as Dave from Thursby <http://www.thursby.com>.
>> >
>
>
>
> --
> I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines
> to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour

Paul <pschaerz.DeleteThis@usa.net> wrote:

> Hi Anders
> What do you then recommend Enterprises with 5000 Users wich are productive
> and collaborate with others, securely share Files, have a centralised
> Managament??

Hi Paul

Then I guess I'll have to agree with bill. However to my own defense -
by mentioning only one ("a") Windows 2003 Server you didn't exactly hint
the scale or context of your installation. I guess that server is one of
- quite a few...

> ""Anders Eklöf"" <andekl_no.DeleteThis@saaf_spam.se> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1i6kacc.giy1v0iqvndeN%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se...
> > Paul <pschaerz.DeleteThis@usa.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Bill
> >> very many thanks for your advice.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Paul
> > Have you considered just using SMB/CIFS? It's built in.
> >
> >> "William Smith" <mecklists.DeleteThis@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:uZpbMJeFIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > Paul wrote:
> >> >> I have to install a Windows 2003 Server with MS Services for Macintosh
> >> >> (SFM)
> >> >> The Share or the Folder wich I create should be accessible paralell
> >> >> from
> >> >> Windows / Linux and Mac clients
> >> >> Anyone already have to do something like that?
> >> >
> >> > Don't use File Services for Macintosh. It AFP code, which is still at
> >> > version 2.2, hasn't been updated in years and has compatibility issues
> >> > with Mac OS X's version of AFP, which is version 3.2.
> >> >
> >> > Use a third party application on the server such as Group Logic's
> >> > ExtremeZ-IP <http://www.grouplogic.com> or use a third party appication
> >> > on
> >> > the Macs such as Dave from Thursby <http://www.thursby.com>.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines
> > to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour


--
I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines
to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour

Not clear on something. Why do you have to use AFP? Are you still using
Apple OS9 clients running AFP? The shares *should* be visible to your Macs
running TCP/IP shouldn't they? If so, why bother with AFP at all? Perhaps
the answer is simpler, in that you don't have to do what you are attempting
to do? Just trying to brainstorm the issue a bit. Assumptions are often
killers.

Al


On 10/26/07 12:25 PM, in article
1i6m320.110tjo3eqy463N%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se, "Anders Eklöf"
<andekl_no.DeleteThis@saaf_spam.se> wrote:

> Paul <pschaerz.DeleteThis@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anders
>> What do you then recommend Enterprises with 5000 Users wich are productive
>> and collaborate with others, securely share Files, have a centralised
>> Managament??
>
> Hi Paul
>
> Then I guess I'll have to agree with bill. However to my own defense -
> by mentioning only one ("a") Windows 2003 Server you didn't exactly hint
> the scale or context of your installation. I guess that server is one of
> - quite a few...
>
>> ""Anders Eklöf"" <andekl_no.DeleteThis@saaf_spam.se> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:1i6kacc.giy1v0iqvndeN%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se...
>>> Paul <pschaerz.DeleteThis@usa.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bill
>>>> very many thanks for your advice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Paul
>>> Have you considered just using SMB/CIFS? It's built in.
>>>
>>>> "William Smith" <mecklists.DeleteThis@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uZpbMJeFIHA.5544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>>> I have to install a Windows 2003 Server with MS Services for Macintosh
>>>>>> (SFM)
>>>>>> The Share or the Folder wich I create should be accessible paralell
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Windows / Linux and Mac clients
>>>>>> Anyone already have to do something like that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't use File Services for Macintosh. It AFP code, which is still at
>>>>> version 2.2, hasn't been updated in years and has compatibility issues
>>>>> with Mac OS X's version of AFP, which is version 3.2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Use a third party application on the server such as Group Logic's
>>>>> ExtremeZ-IP <http://www.grouplogic.com> or use a third party appication
>>>>> on
>>>>> the Macs such as Dave from Thursby <http://www.thursby.com>.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines
>>> to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour
>

Al Bergstein wrote:
> Not clear on something. Why do you have to use AFP? Are you still using
> Apple OS9 clients running AFP? The shares *should* be visible to your Macs
> running TCP/IP shouldn't they? If so, why bother with AFP at all? Perhaps
> the answer is simpler, in that you don't have to do what you are attempting
> to do? Just trying to brainstorm the issue a bit. Assumptions are often
> killers.

Hi Al!

I believe you're confusing AFP (a file sharing protocol) with AppleTalk
(a network communications protocol). AFP can run over AppleTalk or IP.

In my experience with AFP and SMB (Windows file sharing protocol) I've
found that SMB is OK for one or a few Macs needing to occasionally
connect to a Windows server but AFP is far more stable and faster for
prolonged use. I haven't tested yet with Leopard.

--

bill

William M. Smith, Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows
Entourage Help Page <http://entourage.mvps.org/>
Entourage Help Blog <http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/>

Ah, right you are. It's been a few years since I've worked with setting up
anything other than file sharing using SMB. So I stand corrected.


On 11/26/07 9:14 PM, in article #UARuRLMIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
"William Smith" <mecklists.DeleteThis@REM0VETH1S.comcast.net> wrote:

> Al Bergstein wrote:
>> Not clear on something. Why do you have to use AFP? Are you still using
>> Apple OS9 clients running AFP? The shares *should* be visible to your Macs
>> running TCP/IP shouldn't they? If so, why bother with AFP at all? Perhaps
>> the answer is simpler, in that you don't have to do what you are attempting
>> to do? Just trying to brainstorm the issue a bit. Assumptions are often
>> killers.
>
> Hi Al!
>
> I believe you're confusing AFP (a file sharing protocol) with AppleTalk
> (a network communications protocol). AFP can run over AppleTalk or IP.
>
> In my experience with AFP and SMB (Windows file sharing protocol) I've
> found that SMB is OK for one or a few Macs needing to occasionally
> connect to a Windows server but AFP is far more stable and faster for
> prolonged use. I haven't tested yet with Leopard.