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Warren Oates

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:44 am
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Fred McKenzie

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:38 pm
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In article <4513beb1$0$14715$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
<warren.oates.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm looking at a Linksys BEFSR41; it looks good, and it's cheap, but I
> want to make sure that it's not hard-coded to only run on Windows or
> something evil like that.

Warren-

I've tried several different wireless routers. They all worked to some
extent. My only problem has been finding one that passes AppleTalk
between the wired and wireless ports. You can't always go by brand. In
one case I tried, an older model worked and the newer model didn't.

If you do not use AppleTalk/EtherTalk for printing or file sharing, then
most units will meet your needs.

Fred
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Steve W. Jackson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:31 pm
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In article <fmmck-2209061238120001.RemoveThis@172.165.43.39>,
fmmck.RemoveThis@aol.com (Fred McKenzie) wrote:

> In article <4513beb1$0$14715$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
> <warren.oates.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking at a Linksys BEFSR41; it looks good, and it's cheap, but I
> > want to make sure that it's not hard-coded to only run on Windows or
> > something evil like that.
>
> Warren-
>
> I've tried several different wireless routers. They all worked to some
> extent. My only problem has been finding one that passes AppleTalk
> between the wired and wireless ports. You can't always go by brand. In
> one case I tried, an older model worked and the newer model didn't.
>
> If you do not use AppleTalk/EtherTalk for printing or file sharing, then
> most units will meet your needs.
>
> Fred

That particular Linksys router will pass the AppleTalk packets, as I
recall. I had one as (I think) my first router back when I still had an
OS 8/9 system as my primary. But I might suggest a newer model that
supports both wired and wireless, just in case you should decide you
want to add wireless support to your system. Until you do, you can
disable the wireless entirely. And router prices are dropping these
days, so it won't cost much.

FWIW, the AT issue won't be relevant if all Macs are current.

= Steve =
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Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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D. Kirkpatrick

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:34 pm
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In article <4513beb1$0$14715$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> What's a good wired 4-port router (and switch) for OS X? I'll be using
> it with my soon-come Mac Pro and Old Sawtooth, which will soon have a
> new PowerForce 1.6 gHz processor in it.
>
> I'm looking at a Linksys BEFSR41; it looks good, and it's cheap, but I
> want to make sure that it's not hard-coded to only run on Windows or
> something evil like that.
>
> As for the widescreen monitor I mentioned in another post, I'm probably
> going to get the Benq 202W; it looks good and the price is right.
> http://www.directdial.com/ca/shop/item/prod.asp?item=FP202W.
>
> Thanks!
> --
> W. Oates



Operating systems is immaterial.

I'm running a D-Link 604.

4 systems... Mac OS 9, Mac OS 8.6 (spare rarely turned on nowadays)
Win2K and WinXP.

The Win boxes talk to each other via the route,r and the Mac systems
talk to each other via the router.

The Mac OS 9 talks to the Win systems through the router using
Thursby's DAVE networking software.

All 4 have access to the net via the router.

Never had a problem.
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Warren Oates

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:59 pm
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Wayne C. Morris

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:19 pm
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In article <4513beb1$0$14715$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> What's a good wired 4-port router (and switch) for OS X? I'll be using
> it with my soon-come Mac Pro and Old Sawtooth, which will soon have a
> new PowerForce 1.6 gHz processor in it.
>
> I'm looking at a Linksys BEFSR41; it looks good, and it's cheap, but I
> want to make sure that it's not hard-coded to only run on Windows or
> something evil like that.

I've been using a BEFSR41 for years.
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Jerry Kindall

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:59 pm
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In article <4513beb1$0$14715$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
<warren.oates DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> What's a good wired 4-port router (and switch) for OS X? I'll be using
> it with my soon-come Mac Pro and Old Sawtooth, which will soon have a
> new PowerForce 1.6 gHz processor in it.
>
> I'm looking at a Linksys BEFSR41; it looks good, and it's cheap, but I
> want to make sure that it's not hard-coded to only run on Windows or
> something evil like that.

I've had enough difficulty with Linksys products that I now use them
only under protest. (My VOIP service sent me a Linksys PAP2, but
fortunately it appears that the hardware and firmware are actually
licensed from Sipura.) That said, one of the advantages of some of the
Linksys hardware is that you can get third-party firmware for it. Make
sure the router you get supports this.

I have a D-Link DGL-4300 which I like a lot. It's got a gigabit
Ethernet switch (most home routers only have 100base-T) and very
flexible configuration options. It is fast and reliable. Plus it has
the ability to prioritize traffic for gaming or VOIP. There is also a
slightly cheaper version without wireless, the DGL-4100.

The unit's Web-based configuration software doesn't work so well with
Safari, but it works fine with Firefox.

D-Link also has a Pre-N wireless router with the same feature set, so
I've recently seen some pretty good deals on the DGL-4300 (well under
$100 after rebate). Keep an eye out.

--
Jerry Kindall, Seattle, WA <http://www.jerrykindall.com/>

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Warren Oates

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:38 pm
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Jerry Kindall

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:40 am
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In article <45159b19$0$9876$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
<warren.oates.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <230920061259379985%jerrykindall@nospam.invalid>,
> Jerry Kindall <jerrykindall.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I have a D-Link DGL-4300 which I like a lot. It's got a gigabit
> > Ethernet switch (most home routers only have 100base-T) and very
> > flexible configuration options. It is fast and reliable. Plus it has
> > the ability to prioritize traffic for gaming or VOIP. There is also a
> > slightly cheaper version without wireless, the DGL-4100.
>
> That's a good looking router, thanks. It's a bit more expensive than I
> wanted, but probably worth the extra bux and seems to be what I want.
> Lowest price I see online is CDN $156, but I'll keep looking; it's not
> the sort of thing you find at Futureshop and BestBuy are way too
> expensive ...
>
> This may seem stupid, but I can use it as both a wired and wireless
> router, right? Meaning I can connect my incoming PPPoE line to the
> router, connect my old Sawtooth via Ethernet, and connect the new Power
> Mac via wireless?

Yep. That's exactly what I've done here. I have two machines and my
VOIP adapter connected by wired Ethernet; my Tivo and EyeHome connected
wirelessly via a bridge, and a laptop that connects wirelessly
directly.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:57 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:39 pm
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I would recommend Buffalo Technology's WHR-HP-G54. Its wireless signal
is the strongest I've seen of the wireless routers I've owned, and it's
compatible with third-party firmware, like DD-WRT, which typically
provide many more features than Buffalo's stock firmware. Also, I found
file sharing performance is much better with this router than with my
previous Belkin and Netgear routers.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:06 pm
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In article <4513beb1$0$14715$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> What's a good wired 4-port router (and switch) for OS X? I'll be using
> it with my soon-come Mac Pro and Old Sawtooth, which will soon have a
> new PowerForce 1.6 gHz processor in it.

I have a Belkin Wireless G Plus MIMO router and have been pleased with
it. You probably don't need the MIMO function and there's a
significantly less expensive G router w/o MIMO.

I like Belkin because they have at least a little bit of Mac support,
although I had to correct one of their help documents for them. Most
other router mfgrs couldn't care less about Mac support; you're left to
figure it out for yourself. D. Kirkpatrick said 'Operating systems is
immaterial.' Should be, but unfortunately it's not. For whatever reason,
adherence to standards perhaps, some routers work better with OS X than
others, especially when trying to troubleshoot a networking problem.

My favorite routers were made by Asante who was very Mac friendly, but
they don't produce them anymore. They abandoned the consumer market to
concentrate on enterprise. Sad

--Fred
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:42 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:29 pm
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Personally I'am happy with NetGear : 2 Macs, 1 PC and an Ethernet printer
serving the 3 machines


Le 25/09/06 23:39, dans 2006092514394216807-placebo@fakeinvalid, « Placebo »
<placebo DeleteThis @fake.invalid> a écrit :

> I would recommend Buffalo Technology's WHR-HP-G54. Its wireless signal
> is the strongest I've seen of the wireless routers I've owned, and it's
> compatible with third-party firmware, like DD-WRT, which typically
> provide many more features than Buffalo's stock firmware. Also, I found
> file sharing performance is much better with this router than with my
> previous Belkin and Netgear routers.
>
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