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Michael Russell

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Since: Jun 10, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:39 pm
Post subject: Problem with SFM and OS X 10.4
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Up to this point, we've been using OS 9 clients on our network. Windows
2000 SFM has been working fine for providing AppleTalk print and file
services.

Now, we have a new employee with a PowerBook running 10.4, and he is
unable to connect to any of our AppleTalk shares (although AppleTalk
printers and SMB mounting work fine). I understand that 10.4 now
requires AppleTalk over TCP/IP, but I thought that's what SFM provided.
I see no option to turn it on, on the server.

Am I missing something, or am I going to have to use different file
sharing software on the server, like ExtremeZ-IP?

Thanks,
Michael Russell
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William Smith

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Since: Jun 24, 2005
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with SFM and OS X 10.4 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <O18QvOebFHA.3120 DeleteThis @TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
Michael Russell <mr_b15h0p DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> Up to this point, we've been using OS 9 clients on our network. Windows
> 2000 SFM has been working fine for providing AppleTalk print and file
> services.
>
> Now, we have a new employee with a PowerBook running 10.4, and he is
> unable to connect to any of our AppleTalk shares (although AppleTalk
> printers and SMB mounting work fine). I understand that 10.4 now
> requires AppleTalk over TCP/IP, but I thought that's what SFM provided.
> I see no option to turn it on, on the server.
>
> Am I missing something, or am I going to have to use different file
> sharing software on the server, like ExtremeZ-IP?

Hi Michael!

Macs have been using AFP over IP since Mac OS 8. Mac OS X 10.4 has
introduced nothing new other than maybe some performance tweaks.

Your server may have its security set to require Microsoft
Authentication and your Macs may have the Microsoft UAM installed while
your new employee doesn't. Or in his connection dialog he may be forcing
a secure connection that your server doesn't understand.

For the Microsoft UAM, you can download it from Microsoft's website
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=window
s2000sfm>.

Also make sure his password to the server is eight characters or less
unless he's connecting via SMB or with the UAM installed.

Hope this helps! bill
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(Microsoft Interop MVP)
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Michael Russell

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Problem with SFM and OS X 10.4 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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William Smith wrote:
> In article <O18QvOebFHA.3120.DeleteThis@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
> Michael Russell <mr_b15h0p.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Up to this point, we've been using OS 9 clients on our network. Windows
>>2000 SFM has been working fine for providing AppleTalk print and file
>>services.
>>
>>Now, we have a new employee with a PowerBook running 10.4, and he is
>>unable to connect to any of our AppleTalk shares (although AppleTalk
>>printers and SMB mounting work fine). I understand that 10.4 now
>>requires AppleTalk over TCP/IP, but I thought that's what SFM provided.
>> I see no option to turn it on, on the server.
>>
>>Am I missing something, or am I going to have to use different file
>>sharing software on the server, like ExtremeZ-IP?
>
>
> Hi Michael!
>
> Macs have been using AFP over IP since Mac OS 8.

I know, and I didn't mean to question that.

Mac OS X 10.4 has
> introduced nothing new other than maybe some performance tweaks.

Features like Spotlight, Dashboard, Automater, etc., weren't in 10.3.
They might have existed elsewhere in the computing world, though. Don't
see how this affects my problem.

>
> Your server may have its security set to require Microsoft
> Authentication and your Macs may have the Microsoft UAM installed while
> your new employee doesn't.

It doesn't.

Or in his connection dialog he may be forcing
> a secure connection that your server doesn't understand.

He's not.
>
> For the Microsoft UAM, you can download it from Microsoft's website
> <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=window
> s2000sfm>.
>
> Also make sure his password to the server is eight characters or less
> unless he's connecting via SMB or with the UAM installed.

This isn't an issue.
>
> Hope this helps! bill

The reason for asking about difference in 10.4 vs. older OS X is because
we have a vanilla installation of 10.3 that connects instantly using the
connection string: afp://<ip address/projects . Using the same on the
new 10.4 box results in an error that the system could not mount the volume.

Michael
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Jim Seifert [MSFT]

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Since: May 20, 2005
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:51 am
Post subject: Re: Problem with SFM and OS X 10.4 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> The reason for asking about difference in 10.4 vs. older OS X is because
> we have a vanilla installation of 10.3 that connects instantly using the
> connection string: afp://<ip address/projects . Using the same on the
> new 10.4 box results in an error that the system could not mount the
> volume.
>
> Michael

While this could be due to changes in 10.4 but we have investigated this
previously and a static mapping of the network configurations on the Mac
client fixes the connectivity problems. You don't need a static IP but
entering the gateway and dns information might help. If Appletalk is
enabled on the Mac client interface and the network you can try
afp:/at/Server/.

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"Michael Russell" <mr_b15h0p.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:em7$Ke8bFHA.132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> William Smith wrote:
>> In article <O18QvOebFHA.3120.TakeThisOut@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>,
>> Michael Russell <mr_b15h0p.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Up to this point, we've been using OS 9 clients on our network. Windows
>>>2000 SFM has been working fine for providing AppleTalk print and file
>>>services.
>>>
>>>Now, we have a new employee with a PowerBook running 10.4, and he is
>>>unable to connect to any of our AppleTalk shares (although AppleTalk
>>>printers and SMB mounting work fine). I understand that 10.4 now
>>>requires AppleTalk over TCP/IP, but I thought that's what SFM provided. I
>>>see no option to turn it on, on the server.
>>>
>>>Am I missing something, or am I going to have to use different file
>>>sharing software on the server, like ExtremeZ-IP?
>>
>>
>> Hi Michael!
>>
>> Macs have been using AFP over IP since Mac OS 8.
>
> I know, and I didn't mean to question that.
>
> Mac OS X 10.4 has
>> introduced nothing new other than maybe some performance tweaks.
>
> Features like Spotlight, Dashboard, Automater, etc., weren't in 10.3. They
> might have existed elsewhere in the computing world, though. Don't see
> how this affects my problem.
>
>>
>> Your server may have its security set to require Microsoft Authentication
>> and your Macs may have the Microsoft UAM installed while your new
>> employee doesn't.
>
> It doesn't.
>
> Or in his connection dialog he may be forcing
>> a secure connection that your server doesn't understand.
>
> He's not.
>>
>> For the Microsoft UAM, you can download it from Microsoft's website
>> <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=window
>> s2000sfm>.
>>
>> Also make sure his password to the server is eight characters or less
>> unless he's connecting via SMB or with the UAM installed.
>
> This isn't an issue.
>>
>> Hope this helps! bill
>
> The reason for asking about difference in 10.4 vs. older OS X is because
> we have a vanilla installation of 10.3 that connects instantly using the
> connection string: afp://<ip address/projects . Using the same on the
> new 10.4 box results in an error that the system could not mount the
> volume.
>
> Michael
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