PostScript fonts in Tiger?

Being a graphic artist I have had to manage a lot of fonts. Generally I
don't like the Type 1 bitmap portion of the fonts not to be in a
suitcase. Since you don't have a great deal of them then that should be
fine and Font Book should work well for you.

In the graphics world TrueType used to be a problem for some lazer
printers and film RIP sytems (RIP systesm are used to create film
negatives or plates for printing). But that is not much of an issue
anymore. The manufacturers have built in support for the TrueType.
Though Type1 Postcript are better built fonts (usually fewer points,
better hinting, etc.) and usually cause fewer problems for the RIPS but
for the average computer user TrueType is easier to deal with. Only one
file and free fonts readily available. Though remember you can use
Windows TrueType fonts as easily as the Mac fonts.

Go to http://www.dafont.com/ for a good selection of free and shareware
fonts.
Fonts are really cool and can be alot of fun.

Michael

Thanks for the info. Pretty sure this font (DIN) is PS type 1. I'm not a
graphic artist and have very few fonts (less than 6 that I've added for
my own use) aside from the ones that ship with Tiger.

robert

In article <1131218597.169262.59220.DeleteThis@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"LarakSCA" <laraksca.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> Tiger Supports Postcript Type 1, TrueType for Mac (The various
> flavors), TrueType for Windows, and OpenType (the various flavors).
> SEE BELOW for Developers Listing of fonts.
>
> In Font Book you can create a new Library and you can add fonts to that
> library. If you have few to moderate amount of fonts FontBook might
> work for you but if you have alot of fonts it will eventually take too
> long to open up. Apple uses Apple Type Services to handle fonts (A Font
> Server). Font Book does not actually move or modify a font when
> activating and deactivating. It handles it within the font server.
>
> With smaller sets of fonts you can use Font Book well. If you are a
> graphic artist you will need a font manager. Suitcase, Font Reserve and
> Font Agent are some of the professional tools. Recently LinoType has
> introduced a Beta font manager FontExplorer X. As it is not a final
> release and out for testing it could have some issues. I am using
> right now and like it so far.
>
> Here is a tutorial on managing your fonts with FontBook
> http://maczealots.com/tutorials/fonts/
>
> Hope that is some help.
> Michael
>
> Apple Developers Coment onf Font Types:
> --
> The font formats and file types supported for rendering, previewing,
> and printing documents in Mac OS X are:
>
> * Macintosh TrueType font suitcases and data-fork (.dfont) suitcases. A
> data fork font suitcase contains the resources associated with a
> Macintosh font, including 'FOND' and 'NFNT' resources. The only
> difference is that the information is stored in a data fork rather than
> a resource fork. However, the data fork suitcase format is not the same
> as the format used for a data fork TrueType font used in the Windows
> OS.
> * Windows TrueType (.ttf/.ttc) outline/bitmap fonts
> * PostScript OpenType Roman outline/bitmap fonts
> * PostScript OpenType CID Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese
> outline/bitmap fonts
> * PostScript Type 1 outline font with Macintosh bitmap font suitcases
> (LWFN)
> * Macintosh PostScript Type 1 enabled font suitcases ('sfnt')
> * Macintosh PostScript Type 1 CID enabled font suitcases ('sfnt'/CID)
> * Multiple Master PostScript fonts (available starting with Mac OS X
> version 10.2). There are two types available-LWFN and 'sfnt'.
> --
>

In article <1131226304.688714.88540 DeleteThis @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"LarakSCA" <laraksca DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> Being a graphic artist I have had to manage a lot of fonts. Generally I
> don't like the Type 1 bitmap portion of the fonts not to be in a
> suitcase. Since you don't have a great deal of them then that should be
> fine and Font Book should work well for you.

How do you get them in a suitcase if they don't come that way?

>
> In the graphics world TrueType used to be a problem for some lazer
> printers and film RIP sytems (RIP systesm are used to create film

Yeah, I remember that. I did a little work in PageMaker a few years ago.
Not much. Just a couple of business cards for myself. The place that did
the film for the printer wanted PS fonts.

> file and free fonts readily available. Though remember you can use
> Windows TrueType fonts as easily as the Mac fonts.

Yes, that's a nice thing about them. I wonder about the quality of free
fonts though. I'm told they're usually bad knock-offs of faces from the
major foundries.


r.

In article <rb28-51E470.14200306112005.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>, RobertB.
<rb28.RemoveThis@nyu.edu> wrote:

> How do you get them in a suitcase if they don't come that way?

Where are you getting type 1 PS fonts from where the bitmaps are coming
loose?

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> How do you get them in a suitcase if they don't come that way?

Fonts should come in a suitcase. The only way I ever received them that
way was from clients sending files to be output and they would actually
remove the fonts from the suitcase for reasons of their own. For my
purposes I would try and use them or if they were giving me a problem I
would try placing them in a suitcase. Sometimes when I had the same
font from the same foundry I would use mine instead.

All this of course was in OS 9 where suitcases open up similar to
folders and you can just drop them in. In OS X this is no longer the
case and you cannot edit suitcases. Font Doctor is supposed to be able
to work with Suitcases or you can reboot to OS 9 if you have an older
Mac. Or you can download the old System 6 Font/DA Mover from apple and
start Classic. It's an old application but it still works in classic.
The link below has a good page with links.

http://www.senecadesign.com/designgeek/dgarchives/designgeek31.php

> Yes, that's a nice thing about them. I wonder about the quality of free fonts though. I'm told they're usually bad knock-offs of faces from the major foundries.

Free fonts can be hit and miss. They can cause crashes and errors
during print. When they work they can be just fine as long as you are
not publishing a very large book. The average user will not usually
notice a poorly designed font because you are using if for small
purposes.

If you are publishing a long document it is always wise to use a font
from a good foundry. In a long document excessive points in a font,
poor hinting and kerning pairs can have unwanted results. I am willy
nilly about headlines but when I do long documents and catalogs I stick
with an assorted set of fonts usually from Adobe, LinoType or URW. I
like fonts with alot of family members: Light, Regular, Semibold, Bold,
Heavy and Black. Gives me some options.

I recommend as you gather fonts keep them in folders that will track
down where you got them from. You can always check back for others and
get replacements. Pretty much mine are kept in foundry folders. The
fonts I get from clients are kept in a temporary folder with the fonts
by project. They will eventually be tossed out or archived with the
clients job.

I keep a master backup set of my fonts usually by date increments
because I am purchasing more or finding them on the internet at the
free sites.

For a designer you may not need a font all the time but when you are in
the design phase you want them all visible in your font management
program so you can hunt down that one font that will make the whatever
look perfect.

We used to use specimen books in the old days before desktop publishing
changed it all. I wonder if anyone remembers how to copyfit with a pica
pole and a specimen book.

Thanks
Michael

In article <1131435758.931443.52930.RemoveThis@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"LarakSCA" <laraksca.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> > How do you get them in a suitcase if they don't come that way?
>
> Fonts should come in a suitcase. The only way I ever received them that
> way was from clients sending files to be output and they would actually
> remove the fonts from the suitcase for reasons of their own. For my
> purposes I would try and use them or if they were giving me a problem I
> would try placing them in a suitcase. Sometimes when I had the same
> font from the same foundry I would use mine instead.

I received these as a Zip archive containing four faces/weights for the
font (DIN).


> Free fonts can be hit and miss. They can cause crashes and errors
> during print. When they work they can be just fine as long as you are
> not publishing a very large book. The average user will not usually

That's what I've read. I'm usually careful about fonts simply because
they can create all sorts of problems on a system that are hard to track
down. (I'm running Tiger, by the way, but I think I mentioned that.)


> with an assorted set of fonts usually from Adobe, LinoType or URW. I
> like fonts with alot of family members: Light, Regular, Semibold, Bold,
> Heavy and Black. Gives me some options.

I've purchased fonts from Adobe and other foundries. I remember Adobe
used to send out a CD from which you could unlock individual fonts.

> For a designer you may not need a font all the time but when you are in
> the design phase you want them all visible in your font management
> program so you can hunt down that one font that will make the whatever
> look perfect.

Makes sense that you would want a library at hand.
>
> We used to use specimen books in the old days before desktop publishing
> changed it all. I wonder if anyone remembers how to copyfit with a pica
> pole and a specimen book.

I have a couple of type specimen books around. I do like good
typography.

r.

In article <061120051603376825%dave***@balderstone.ca>,
Dave Balderstone <dave***@balderstone.ca> wrote:

> In article <rb28-51E470.14200306112005.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>, RobertB.
> <rb28.RemoveThis@nyu.edu> wrote:
>
> > How do you get them in a suitcase if they don't come that way?
>
> Where are you getting type 1 PS fonts from where the bitmaps are coming
> loose?

They came as a Zip archive, with four faces within.

r.

In article <rb28-1360FD.17083111112005 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>, RobertB.
<rb28 DeleteThis @nyu.edu> wrote:

> They came as a Zip archive, with four faces within.

I asked where you got them, not how they were delivered.

djb

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