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LVogt

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Since: Jul 16, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:59 pm
Post subject: Paragraph alignment
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Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Power PC

Even on the default presentation, the first line of bulleted text always hangs slightly to the left. How can I align the whole paragraph?

If I turn off the bullet, it's easy to move the indent marker to move lines 2-on but not with the bullet.

I've read there are two parts to the bottom marker, as it appears to be, but I have found any way to move them independently. What's the secret?

Thanks
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Mike Quinlan

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:58 am
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This is a HUGE problem for me too. I have just created a while library of case studies for our company in PowerPoint and suddenly all of the text based on masterslide text objects is doing that stupid left hanging indent thing. It's putting spaces before words rather than after them???

We need a fix to this FAST, MS. Keynote is looking pretty good right about now.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:23 am
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I am having this issue as well, to my additional frustration, the rest of the paragraph will be indented at varying degrees on the left side. This is giving a large percentage of the text a "ragged" left edge look that does not present well, and is very irritating when attempting to produce something that looks professional.

Has anyone figured out how to adjust this issue, without putting returns at the end of every line to make the left edge line up????

It happens in both 2007 and 2008, and it seems to be a bit random. (Some paragraphs or presentations are unaffected by this issue)
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:51 am
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Same frustating problem, anyone has found a workaorund?
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irchamandy

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:58 am
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I have the same problem. I don't understand how MS could make such an obvious mistake and, six months after its release, not have a fix for it yet. It makes the presenter, which is usually somebody in a business presenting internally or to people outside of their company, look sloppy.

I also don't understand why, with all of the "MVPs" crawling all over this site, there isn't an answer for this yet.

In 22 years of using MS products, the company has never missed a chance to underwhelm. This bug and the failure to fix it is another classic example.
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Steve Rindsberg

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:48 pm
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In article <59b54669.3 DeleteThis @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw>, wrote:
> I have the same problem. I don't understand how MS could make such an obvious mistake
and, six months after its release, not have a fix for it yet. It makes the presenter,
which is usually somebody in a business presenting internally or to people outside of
their company, look sloppy.
>
> I also don't understand why, with all of the "MVPs" crawling all over this site,
there isn't an answer for this yet.

We're not MS employees. It's perhaps a bit easier for us to bring problems to
Microsoft's attention, but we have about as much ability to get problems fixed as you
do.

Less if we take "you" in the aggregate. Please ... everyone ...if you haven't already
done so, use the item on the Help menu to contact MS and describe the problem. That's
a vote for a fix.


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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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CyberTaz

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:36 pm
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On 7/27/08 4:48 PM, in article VA.000041dc.11188567 RemoveThis @localhost.com, "Steve
Rindsberg" <abuse RemoveThis @localhost.com> wrote:

> In article <59b54669.3 RemoveThis @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw>, wrote:
>> I have the same problem. I don't understand how MS could make such an obvious
>> mistake
> and, six months after its release, not have a fix for it yet. It makes the
> presenter,
> which is usually somebody in a business presenting internally or to people
> outside of
> their company, look sloppy.
>>
>> I also don't understand why, with all of the "MVPs" crawling all over this
>> site,
> there isn't an answer for this yet.
>
> We're not MS employees. It's perhaps a bit easier for us to bring problems to
> Microsoft's attention, but we have about as much ability to get problems fixed
> as you
> do.
>
> Less if we take "you" in the aggregate. Please ... everyone ...if you haven't
> already
> done so, use the item on the Help menu to contact MS and describe the problem.
> That's
> a vote for a fix.
>
>
> ================================================
> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> PPTools: www.pptools.com
> ================================================
>
>
Extending on what Steve posted:

Most issues similar to what is referred to in this thread have been
addressed by the updates so far released. It is also a fact that problems
can seldom be corrected unless they can be replicated, and the subject here
is apparently not universal. I have Office 2008 on 2 separate Macs - one
PPC, one Intel - one running Tiger, the other Leopard - and have not seen
anything similar to this occur since applying the 12.0.1 update. Neither
have I been able to force it to occur no matter what fonts or other changes
I make to files from previous versions including ones going back to Office
2000 on the PC.

All who have contributed to this thread might do well to review the posts
within and ask themselves what they've offered by way of details... I see
very little but gripes & moans. Nobody has included version specifics for OS
X or Office, nobody has offered any detailed information with regard to
fonts or font versions, there's nothing with regard to any other formatting
effects used where the problem is being seen... There has been virtually
nothing offered of any substance that would assist in resolution of the
problem that obviously does exist for some users. Without something more
substantive than demands & derisive comments about MS those willing to help
can't reproduce the issue & if it can't be repro'd it's just about
impossible to resolve. There may not be a solution or it may actually be
something faulty in the software, but without facts nobody stand a fighting
chance.

Do you want to just continue bellyaching or do you want to participate in an
effort to get it resolved?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:47 pm
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I have the same paragraph alignment problem. When I open documents created in PPT 2004 for Mac on the same Mac using PPT 2008 (Update 12.1.1) all of my text boxes have a space along the left side when the text is wrapped. This bug has nothing to do with resizing the text boxes. If I resize a box, the "hanging indent" effect is still there. The only way I can left-align text is to manually insert hard carriage returns at the end of every line (obviously a non-starter).

The problem does not appear to be font-specific. I use ARIAL and TIMES NEW ROMAN and both exhibit the problem.

I am using a MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo; 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM and Mac OS-X V 10.5.4
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CyberTaz

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:34 pm
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It sounds like you actually have a Bulleted List Placeholder - not a Text
Box - which has had the bulleting incompletely removed. PPt 2008 is more
"formatting-rich" than 2004 & if I'm right it's picking up on the residual
formatting left behind in the 2004 placeholder. Easy to do since 2004 didn't
have a Format> Paragraph dialog... You could remove the bullet without
removing the Hanging Indent.

Try this...

Select one of the paragraphs which displays the problem, then go to Format>
Paragraph & see if there is a Hanging Indent set. If so, open the list &
select (None). That should resolve it if that's the problem.

This is the only thing I've found that could account for the effect you
describe. I've tried to force the issue here using 2004 with existing files
- most from PC 2000-2003 - as well newly created files. They all display
perfectly in 2008.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac


On 7/30/08 3:47 PM, in article 59b54669.6.RemoveThis@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"mrymac@officeformac.com" <mrymac.RemoveThis@officeformac.com> wrote:

> I have the same paragraph alignment problem. When I open documents created in
> PPT 2004 for Mac on the same Mac using PPT 2008 (Update 12.1.1) all of my text
> boxes have a space along the left side when the text is wrapped. This bug has
> nothing to do with resizing the text boxes. If I resize a box, the "hanging
> indent" effect is still there. The only way I can left-align text is to
> manually insert hard carriage returns at the end of every line (obviously a
> non-starter).
>
> The problem does not appear to be font-specific. I use ARIAL and TIMES NEW
> ROMAN and both exhibit the problem.
>
> I am using a MacBook Pro 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo; 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM and
> Mac OS-X V 10.5.4
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