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Mark Dintenfass

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:47 pm
Post subject: 2 Macs linked?
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I tried this enquiry elsewhere but got no response. Hoping someone here
can help.

I am currently running a G5 with 10.4.11. I plan to buy a new MacPro,
and I would like to be able to network the two machines so that when
I'm using Final Cut the G5 can do the rendering in the background while
I continue to work on the new machine. I have several questions I hope
someone can answer.

1. Is my plan feasible?

2. What sort of network should I use between the two machines? Is a
simple Ethernet cable run between them sufficient? How do I "bless" the
new machine as the master and the older machine as the slave?

3. Will I need to have the same OS on both machines or can I leave
Tiger on the old machine while running Leopard (or Snow Leopard) on the
new one?

4. Are there other apps (Photoshop, for example) that can assign
processor-heavy jobs to the older machine while running on the new one?


5. Will I be able to run apps that reside only on the older Mac?

7. Are there any pitfalls in my plan I have to take into consideration?

Thank you.

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Stephen C.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:26 am
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:47:13 -0700, Mark Dintenfass wrote
(in article <010820082047132405%mdintenfass@xxnew.rr.com>):

> I tried this enquiry elsewhere but got no response. Hoping someone here
> can help.
>
> I am currently running a G5 with 10.4.11. I plan to buy a new MacPro,
> and I would like to be able to network the two machines so that when
> I'm using Final Cut the G5 can do the rendering in the background while
> I continue to work on the new machine. I have several questions I hope
> someone can answer.
>
> 1. Is my plan feasible?

I depends. You didn't really explain the plan fully enough for anyone to make
a reasonable reply. Do you intend to have Final Cut on the G5 and the digital
files on the MacPro? Or the reverse?

>
> 2. What sort of network should I use between the two machines? Is a
> simple Ethernet cable run between them sufficient? How do I "bless" the
> new machine as the master and the older machine as the slave?

You can use an ethernet connection to share files between the computers. You
will need an ethernet hub, switch or router to plug both computers into. You
can't just plug a wire between the two.

I'm not sure what you mean by blessing the new machine as master and using
the older machine as slave. Over a normal ethernet connection, both machines
are peers, with file sharing between the two as allowed. For example, you
could host the digital files on the newer machine, but have the processing
done by Final Cut running on the older machine.

>
> 3. Will I need to have the same OS on both machines or can I leave
> Tiger on the old machine while running Leopard (or Snow Leopard) on the
> new one?

There is no need to have identical OSes on both machines.

>
> 4. Are there other apps (Photoshop, for example) that can assign
> processor-heavy jobs to the older machine while running on the new one?

No.

>
>
> 5. Will I be able to run apps that reside only on the older Mac?

Not entirely sure what you are asking here. Apps that are on the older Mac
will only run on the older Mac, unless you were to install or copy them to
the new Mac, AND they are compatible with the new Mac. If you have an
application installed on both machines, and they are networked, you can't run
the application on both machines at the same time.

>
> 7. Are there any pitfalls in my plan I have to take into consideration?

Since you didn't fully explain what your plan entails, I will reserve my
answer until such time as you explain further what your plan is. Please
explain exactly what you are trying to do and why.

>
> Thank you.
>
>

StephenC
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:23 pm
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In article <0001HW.C4BC97E901C51D8CF0284530.DeleteThis@newsgroups.comcast.net>,
Stephen C. <nobodyNOSPAM.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:47:13 -0700, Mark Dintenfass wrote
> (in article <010820082047132405%mdintenfass@xxnew.rr.com>):
>
> > I tried this enquiry elsewhere but got no response. Hoping someone here
> > can help.
> >
> > I am currently running a G5 with 10.4.11. I plan to buy a new MacPro,
> > and I would like to be able to network the two machines so that when
> > I'm using Final Cut the G5 can do the rendering in the background while
> > I continue to work on the new machine. I have several questions I hope
> > someone can answer.
> >
> > 1. Is my plan feasible?
>
> I depends. You didn't really explain the plan fully enough for anyone to make
> a reasonable reply. Do you intend to have Final Cut on the G5 and the digital
> files on the MacPro? Or the reverse?

Sorry if I wasn't clear. My hope is to run Final Cut on the new machine
and have rendering done (in the background) using the G5 processors so
that I don't have to stop what I'm doing when rendering. Currently when
rendering clips on the G5 I have to wait for the rendering to finish
before I can go on to other tasks in Final Cut. In other words,
assuming I am running Final Cut on the new machine, can it access the
processors on the G5 (properly networked) for tasks such as rendering.
I'm not sure how to make what I'm after any clearer than that. More
generally, I'm trying to find out what advantages there might be for
keeping the G5 and networking it with the new machine, as opposed to
ditching the G5 and just working with the new machine.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:47 am
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:23:39 -0700, Mark Dintenfass wrote
(in article <040820082223391574%mdintenfass@xxnew.rr.com>):

> In article <0001HW.C4BC97E901C51D8CF0284530 DeleteThis @newsgroups.comcast.net>,
> Stephen C. <nobodyNOSPAM DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:47:13 -0700, Mark Dintenfass wrote
>> (in article <010820082047132405%mdintenfass@xxnew.rr.com>):
>>
>>> I tried this enquiry elsewhere but got no response. Hoping someone here
>>> can help.
>>>
>>> I am currently running a G5 with 10.4.11. I plan to buy a new MacPro,
>>> and I would like to be able to network the two machines so that when
>>> I'm using Final Cut the G5 can do the rendering in the background while
>>> I continue to work on the new machine. I have several questions I hope
>>> someone can answer.
>>>
>>> 1. Is my plan feasible?
>>
>> I depends. You didn't really explain the plan fully enough for anyone to
>> make
>> a reasonable reply. Do you intend to have Final Cut on the G5 and the
>> digital
>> files on the MacPro? Or the reverse?
>
> Sorry if I wasn't clear. My hope is to run Final Cut on the new machine
> and have rendering done (in the background) using the G5 processors so
> that I don't have to stop what I'm doing when rendering. Currently when
> rendering clips on the G5 I have to wait for the rendering to finish
> before I can go on to other tasks in Final Cut. In other words,
> assuming I am running Final Cut on the new machine, can it access the
> processors on the G5 (properly networked) for tasks such as rendering.
> I'm not sure how to make what I'm after any clearer than that. More
> generally, I'm trying to find out what advantages there might be for
> keeping the G5 and networking it with the new machine, as opposed to
> ditching the G5 and just working with the new machine.
>
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
>

Ah. I think that what you are proposing is a render farm. Or in your case, a
render garden Wink

I did a little research, and I believe that it is at least possible. You
would have to install and configure some software, and an ethernet
connection. Whether it would be worth it or not depends on how much rendering
you are doing, and how fast you need it to be. The more machines you add, the
faster the job gets done.

If you are able to do it, my estimate is that it would cut your rendering
times down by less than half. If you are doing tons of rendering, it might be
worth the trouble. If you are just doing home movies, I wouldn't bother. I
would just do your rendering on the fastest machine, and keep the slower
machine for using while the rendering is being done.

Setting up a render farm/garden is not a beginner task. But if you want to
read more about it, do a search for Mac render farm.

Here is a little taste of what would be involved.

http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/936677

Good luck.

StephenC
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:39 am
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In article <0001HW.C4BDC422020B7ADFF0284530 RemoveThis @newsgroups.comcast.net>,
Stephen C. <nobodyNOSPAM RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:

> Setting up a render farm/garden is not a beginner task. But if you want to
> read more about it, do a search for Mac render farm.
>
> Here is a little taste of what would be involved.
>
> http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/936677
>
> Good luck

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