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christinek

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:43 pm
Post subject: Lock View / "Page Layout"?
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Are you able to "Lock" the document so that when another user opens it (particularly on a PC), they are only able to open it in PAGE LAYOUT VIEW or Print Layout View?... I dont want it to open in any other kind of View, no matter what settings they have on their computer. <br><br>Thanks.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:34 am
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Hi Christine -

There's nothing you can do to dictate that behavior through the doc because
View Options are at the user's discretion - not properties of the doc.

Not being a coder I can't say for sure, but prior to Office2008 I would
expect that you might be able to embed a macro in a doc that forced the view
& disabled others while open, but it's a rather extreme measure. With 2008
it won't work anyhow due to lack of macro support in that version, plus the
fact that macro security has tightened up so much [especially in PC Land]
that the doc might not survive in most cases even if you could.

Why don't you just distribute a PDF instead - no muss, no fuss?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 1/18/08 5:43 PM, in article ee89471.-1.TakeThisOut@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"christinek@officeformac.com" <christinek.TakeThisOut@officeformac.com> wrote:

> Are you able to "Lock" the document so that when another user opens it
> (particularly on a PC), they are only able to open it in PAGE LAYOUT VIEW or
> Print Layout View?... I dont want it to open in any other kind of View, no
> matter what settings they have on their computer.
>
> Thanks.
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Daiya Mitchell

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:59 am
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I'd go the PDF route--but by default, Christine, your doc will open in
the view that you last used. I have to set up some sneaky controls to
force other people's documents to open in my preferred Draft view. Most
people don't do that. People who have done it will be really annoyed if
you try to override it.

CyberTaz wrote:
> Hi Christine -
>
> There's nothing you can do to dictate that behavior through the doc because
> View Options are at the user's discretion - not properties of the doc.
>
> Not being a coder I can't say for sure, but prior to Office2008 I would
> expect that you might be able to embed a macro in a doc that forced the view
> & disabled others while open, but it's a rather extreme measure. With 2008
> it won't work anyhow due to lack of macro support in that version, plus the
> fact that macro security has tightened up so much [especially in PC Land]
> that the doc might not survive in most cases even if you could.
>
> Why don't you just distribute a PDF instead - no muss, no fuss?
>
> Regards |:>)
> Bob Jones
> [MVP] Office:Mac
>
>
>
> On 1/18/08 5:43 PM, in article ee89471.-1 RemoveThis @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
> "christinek@officeformac.com" <christinek RemoveThis @officeformac.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Are you able to "Lock" the document so that when another user opens it
>> (particularly on a PC), they are only able to open it in PAGE LAYOUT VIEW or
>> Print Layout View?... I dont want it to open in any other kind of View, no
>> matter what settings they have on their computer.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
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Phillip Jones, CET

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:42 pm
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You will be interested to know in 2008 there is a *menu choice* in Save
As to save as PDF.

'I just tried it and just discovered it gets around a long stand problem
with Acrobat. In all Office version prior to 2008 if you had any insert
Page commands inserted Acrobat would break up the document into several
Pieces and you would have to put them together. I just tried converting
a .docx file I worked on and low and behold it converted all pages as
one pdf and did it so fast it almost made my head spin.

Daiya Mitchell wrote:
> I'd go the PDF route--but by default, Christine, your doc will open in
> the view that you last used. I have to set up some sneaky controls to
> force other people's documents to open in my preferred Draft view. Most
> people don't do that. People who have done it will be really annoyed if
> you try to override it.
> CyberTaz wrote:
>> Hi Christine -
>>
>> There's nothing you can do to dictate that behavior through the doc
>> because
>> View Options are at the user's discretion - not properties of the doc.
>>
>> Not being a coder I can't say for sure, but prior to Office2008 I would
>> expect that you might be able to embed a macro in a doc that forced
>> the view
>> & disabled others while open, but it's a rather extreme measure. With
>> 2008
>> it won't work anyhow due to lack of macro support in that version,
>> plus the
>> fact that macro security has tightened up so much [especially in PC Land]
>> that the doc might not survive in most cases even if you could.
>>
>> Why don't you just distribute a PDF instead - no muss, no fuss?
>>
>> Regards |:>)
>> Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/18/08 5:43 PM, in article ee89471.-1.DeleteThis@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
>> "christinek@officeformac.com" <christinek.DeleteThis@officeformac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Are you able to "Lock" the document so that when another user opens it
>>> (particularly on a PC), they are only able to open it in PAGE LAYOUT
>>> VIEW or
>>> Print Layout View?... I dont want it to open in any other kind of
>>> View, no
>>> matter what settings they have on their computer.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>

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Clive Huggan

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:56 am
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Ahh -- excellent news, Phillip. Very good to know!

Christine: re Daiya's comment below, it's very common for document
professionals to provide a PDF *in addition to* the Word document with an
instruction to print, or initially view, from the PDF. Phillip's news shows
it's much easier to PDF in Word 2008 in the event that the Word document
contains different margin settings, including portrait and landscape
orientations.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
======

On 20/1/08 6:42 AM, in article u$CksNtWIHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
"Phillip Jones, CET" <pjones1.RemoveThis@kimbanet.com> wrote:

> You will be interested to know in 2008 there is a *menu choice* in Save
> As to save as PDF.
>
> 'I just tried it and just discovered it gets around a long stand problem
> with Acrobat. In all Office version prior to 2008 if you had any insert
> Page commands inserted Acrobat would break up the document into several
> Pieces and you would have to put them together. I just tried converting
> a .docx file I worked on and low and behold it converted all pages as
> one pdf and did it so fast it almost made my head spin.
>
> Daiya Mitchell wrote:
>> I'd go the PDF route--but by default, Christine, your doc will open in
>> the view that you last used.
<snip>
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Phillip Jones

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:44 pm
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Clive don't read some of the stuff you said, in to my comment.

I said that Office2008 has in the Save As a selection to save as a PDF.
(this is not to be confused with that little thingie that acrobat places
as floating window).

And that previous to 2008 that each time it came across a Page Break
command, it would start a new PDF job and you would have to to put
pieces back together. (I've had that to happen so I would use returns
instead.

I tried on document I save a set of Bylaws for my association. And it
had bunches of Page Breaks that I inserted instead of enough returns to
make sections I needed break to next page. Anyway It converted as one
job very fast.

I didn't try swapping orientations, or section Breaks. I'm assuming
section breaks act somewhat like Page Breaks.

The conversion went very Fast.

My apologies if I caused some confusion. Except for it looking like
MacWrite Pro I am liking it very well so far.

Clive Huggan wrote:
> Ahh -- excellent news, Phillip. Very good to know!
>
> Christine: re Daiya's comment below, it's very common for document
> professionals to provide a PDF *in addition to* the Word document with an
> instruction to print, or initially view, from the PDF. Phillip's news shows
> it's much easier to PDF in Word 2008 in the event that the Word document
> contains different margin settings, including portrait and landscape
> orientations.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Clive Huggan
> ======
>
> On 20/1/08 6:42 AM, in article u$CksNtWIHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
> "Phillip Jones, CET" <pjones1 RemoveThis @kimbanet.com> wrote:
>
>> You will be interested to know in 2008 there is a *menu choice* in Save
>> As to save as PDF.
>>
>> 'I just tried it and just discovered it gets around a long stand problem
>> with Acrobat. In all Office version prior to 2008 if you had any insert
>> Page commands inserted Acrobat would break up the document into several
>> Pieces and you would have to put them together. I just tried converting
>> a .docx file I worked on and low and behold it converted all pages as
>> one pdf and did it so fast it almost made my head spin.
>>
>> Daiya Mitchell wrote:
>>> I'd go the PDF route--but by default, Christine, your doc will open in
>>> the view that you last used.
> <snip>
>

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:12 pm
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Sort of... Any document you send will open in the View in which it was last
saved.

But you can't prevent the recipient from changing view when they get it.


On 19/01/08 8:43 AM, in article ee89471.-1 DeleteThis @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"christinek@officeformac.com" <christinek DeleteThis @officeformac.com> wrote:

> Are you able to "Lock" the document so that when another user opens it
> (particularly on a PC), they are only able to open it in PAGE LAYOUT VIEW or
> Print Layout View?... I dont want it to open in any other kind of View, no
> matter what settings they have on their computer.
>
> Thanks.

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