need Localtalk terminators

On Jul 12, 12:55 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> DJW <d... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I need 2 Localtalk terminators for use with my asante talk box. I
> > can¹t seem to find Farallon corporations home page to get the
> > terminators for the PhoneNet dongle box. Does anybody know of a good
> > source to get the terminators I need?
>
> Go to your local RadioShack and pick up some 4 position RJ-11 phone
> plugs and 120 ohm resistors. Insert the legs of the resistor in the two
> outer positions of the RJ-11 and crimp.
>
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Thanks for the heads up on what they really are. I will try and make
two I already have a crimper for RJ-11 plugs.

On Jul 12, 12:55 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> DJW <d... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I need 2 Localtalk terminators for use with my asante talk box. I
> > can¹t seem to find Farallon corporations home page to get the
> > terminators for the PhoneNet dongle box. Does anybody know of a good
> > source to get the terminators I need?
>
> Go to your local RadioShack and pick up some 4 position RJ-11 phone
> plugs and 120 ohm resistors. Insert the legs of the resistor in the two
> outer positions of the RJ-11 and crimp.
>
> --
> Tom Stiller
>
> PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF

Tom, Does it matter which leg of the resister goes on which side of
the RJ-ll plug? Also a few terminators that have have a ring around
one of the legs what’s that for?

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DJW <ddwr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 12, 12:55 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <daa6c5ab-c165-43e8-882f-743393559....TakeThisOut@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > DJW <d....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > I need 2 Localtalk terminators for use with my asante talk box. I
> > > can1t seem to find Farallon corporations home page to get the
> > > terminators for the PhoneNet dongle box. Does anybody know of a good
> > > source to get the terminators I need?
> >
> > Go to your local RadioShack and pick up some 4 position RJ-11 phone
> > plugs and 120 ohm resistors. Insert the legs of the resistor in the two
> > outer positions of the RJ-11 and crimp.
> >
>
> Tom, Does it matter which leg of the resister goes on which side of
> the RJ-ll plug? Also a few terminators that have have a ring around
> one of the legs what¹s that for?

No, the resistor is symmetrical. The ring is just to have something to
grasp when removing a terminator from a PhoneNet module.

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On Jul 13, 1:15 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
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> DJW <d....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 12, 12:55 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <daa6c5ab-c165-43e8-882f-743393559....RemoveThis@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > DJW <d....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I need 2 Localtalk terminators for use with my asante talk box. I
> > > > can1t seem to find Farallon corporations home page to get the
> > > > terminators for the PhoneNet dongle box. Does anybody know of a good
> > > > source to get the terminators I need?
>
> > > Go to your local RadioShack and pick up some 4 position RJ-11 phone
> > > plugs and 120 ohm resistors. Insert the legs of the resistor in the two
> > > outer positions of the RJ-11 and crimp.
>
> > Tom, Does it matter which leg of the resister goes on which side of
> > the RJ-ll plug? Also a few terminators that have have a ring around
> > one of the legs what¹s that for?
>
> No, the resistor is symmetrical. The ring is just to have something to
> grasp when removing a terminator from a PhoneNet module.
>
> --
> Tom Stiller
>
> PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF

Tom, does it matter what watt the resisters are. Should I only look
for resisters that are exactly the same in color bands on them as the
ones I already have in use?

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DJW <ddwr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> does it matter what watt the resisters are

DJW-

It matters if their wires are too large to crimp in the RJ-11.

Fred

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DJW <ddwr DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 13, 1:15 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <c0c2df39-d875-4848-8c56-a36f7d335... DeleteThis @k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > DJW <d... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 12, 12:55 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <daa6c5ab-c165-43e8-882f-743393559... DeleteThis @79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > DJW <d... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I need 2 Localtalk terminators for use with my asante talk box. I
> > > > > can1t seem to find Farallon corporations home page to get the
> > > > > terminators for the PhoneNet dongle box. Does anybody know of a good
> > > > > source to get the terminators I need?
> >
> > > > Go to your local RadioShack and pick up some 4 position RJ-11 phone
> > > > plugs and 120 ohm resistors. Insert the legs of the resistor in the two
> > > > outer positions of the RJ-11 and crimp.
> >
> > > Tom, Does it matter which leg of the resister goes on which side of
> > > the RJ-ll plug? Also a few terminators that have have a ring around
> > > one of the legs what¹s that for?
> >
> > No, the resistor is symmetrical. The ring is just to have something to
> > grasp when removing a terminator from a PhoneNet module.
> >

> Tom, does it matter what watt the resisters are. Should I only look
> for resisters that are exactly the same in color bands on them as the
> ones I already have in use?

The resistors in my terminators are 120 ohm; that would be
brown-red-brown. The fourth band, the tolerance, doesn't matter for
this use.

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DJW <ddwr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> does it matter what watt the resisters are

Checking a PhoneNet box here, the resistors look like 1/4 watt.

--Fred

On Jul 16, 10:52 am, Fred Moore <fmo... DeleteThis @gcfn.org> wrote:
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> <1ff28717-7244-4462-b34e-4dd38330b... DeleteThis @z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
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> DJW <d... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > does it matter what watt the resisters are
>
> Checking a PhoneNet box here, the resistors look like 1/4 watt.
>
> --Fred

my have a brwon - red - brown - gold bands that I think mean 2 watt
and +-5%?

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DJW <ddwr DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 16, 10:52 am, Fred Moore <fmo... DeleteThis @gcfn.org> wrote:
> > In article
> > <1ff28717-7244-4462-b34e-4dd38330b... DeleteThis @z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > DJW <d... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > does it matter what watt the resisters are
> >
> > Checking a PhoneNet box here, the resistors look like 1/4 watt.
> >
> > --Fred
>
> my have a brwon - red - brown - gold bands that I think mean 2 watt
> and +-5%?

It's just an impedance match; two watt way too large. Try 1/4 watt or
smaller.

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Tom Stiller

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Tom Stiller <tomstiller RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article
> <4fad97f9-50e4-487f-abd6-260df49bcab5 RemoveThis @a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> DJW <ddwr RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 16, 10:52 am, Fred Moore <fmo... RemoveThis @gcfn.org> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <1ff28717-7244-4462-b34e-4dd38330b... RemoveThis @z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> > >
> > > DJW <d... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > does it matter what watt the resisters are
> > >
> > > Checking a PhoneNet box here, the resistors look like 1/4 watt.
> > >
> > > --Fred
> >
> > my have a brwon - red - brown - gold bands that I think mean 2 watt
> > and +-5%?
>
> It's just an impedance match; two watt way too large. Try 1/4 watt or
> smaller.

I have a bunch that use 1/8 watt resistors. If your run is under 100
feet, you really don't need to terminate LocalTalk lines at all.
I still have some 3000 Ft LocalTalk runs around here, and they do need
termination, but for things that are close, it really doesn't matter.
Some LocalTalk Adapters are Self-Terminating as well.

--
Bruce in alaska
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On Jul 17, 3:22 pm, Bruce in alaska <f....DeleteThis@btpost.net> wrote:
> In article <tomstiller-9A06E3.12485517072....DeleteThis@news.verizon.net>,
> Tom Stiller <tomstil....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <4fad97f9-50e4-487f-abd6-260df49bc....DeleteThis@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > DJW <d....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 16, 10:52 am, Fred Moore <fmo....DeleteThis@gcfn.org> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <1ff28717-7244-4462-b34e-4dd38330b....DeleteThis@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > DJW <d....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > does it matter what watt the resisters are
>
> > > > Checking a PhoneNet box here, the resistors look like 1/4 watt.
>
> > > > --Fred
>
> > > my have a brwon - red - brown - gold bands that I think mean 2 watt
> > > and +-5%?
>
> > It's just an impedance match; two watt way too large. Try 1/4 watt or
> > smaller.
>
> I have a bunch that use 1/8 watt resistors. If your run is under 100
> feet, you really don't need to terminate LocalTalk lines at all.
> I still have some 3000 Ft LocalTalk runs around here, and they do need
> termination, but for things that are close, it really doesn't matter.
> Some LocalTalk Adapters are Self-Terminating as well.
>
> --
> Bruce in alaska
> add <path> after <fast> to reply
I am using them on a local talk network with a Blue & white G-3 so I
need the Asante talk Box to get with the older network type that the
printer and older Macs are on. Asante says I need to terminate at both
ends I never tried it with out them. What might I find if I try them
and they really needed them? Data transfer errors? Might it have
intermittent problems? Or not even work at all? Does Asante know for
sure that I need them or just want a user to use them so they don't
get a ton or tech questions?

In article
<4fad97f9-50e4-487f-abd6-260df49bcab5.TakeThisOut@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
DJW <ddwr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 10:52 am, Fred Moore <fmo....TakeThisOut@gcfn.org> wrote:
> > In article
> > <1ff28717-7244-4462-b34e-4dd38330b....TakeThisOut@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > DJW <d....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > does it matter what watt the resisters are
> >
> > Checking a PhoneNet box here, the resistors look like 1/4 watt.
>
> my have a brwon - red - brown - gold bands that I think mean 2 watt
> and +-5%?

brown, red, brown, gold = 120 ohms (12x10), 5%. The wattage is never
specified in the bands, only the physical size. Bruce may be right that
they're 1/8 watt, though 1/4 watt resistors may be easier to find. As to
whether they're really necessary, if you accidentally run the wire near
an EMR source (big motor or high-current switch, for example), the
resistors will help prevent packet corruption and consequent transfer
rate degradation.

--Fred

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<16358fe6-2ae1-4eb4-8ed0-e6c0f334730e RemoveThis @z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
DJW <ddwr RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 17, 3:22 pm, Bruce in alaska <f... RemoveThis @btpost.net> wrote:
> > In article <tomstiller-9A06E3.12485517072... RemoveThis @news.verizon.net>,
> > Tom Stiller <tomstil... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > <4fad97f9-50e4-487f-abd6-260df49bc... RemoveThis @a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > DJW <d... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Jul 16, 10:52 am, Fred Moore <fmo... RemoveThis @gcfn.org> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <1ff28717-7244-4462-b34e-4dd38330b... RemoveThis @z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > > DJW <d... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > does it matter what watt the resisters are
> >
> > > > > Checking a PhoneNet box here, the resistors look like 1/4 watt.
> >
> > > > > --Fred
> >
> > > > my have a brwon - red - brown - gold bands that I think mean 2 watt
> > > > and +-5%?
> >
> > > It's just an impedance match; two watt way too large. Try 1/4 watt or
> > > smaller.
> >
> > I have a bunch that use 1/8 watt resistors. If your run is under 100
> > feet, you really don't need to terminate LocalTalk lines at all.
> > I still have some 3000 Ft LocalTalk runs around here, and they do need
> > termination, but for things that are close, it really doesn't matter.
> > Some LocalTalk Adapters are Self-Terminating as well.
> >
> > --
> > Bruce in alaska
> > add <path> after <fast> to reply
> I am using them on a local talk network with a Blue & white G-3 so I
> need the Asante talk Box to get with the older network type that the
> printer and older Macs are on. Asante says I need to terminate at both
> ends I never tried it with out them. What might I find if I try them
> and they really needed them? Data transfer errors? Might it have
> intermittent problems? Or not even work at all? Does Asante know for
> sure that I need them or just want a user to use them so they don't
> get a ton or tech questions?

Asante's just playing safe, since they cannot possibly know how far
apart, and what quality cabling, you may be using. I've never had a
problem with short cable runs, but I usually throw in the terminators
anyway (since I have them.) If you need extra PhoneNet/LocalTalk
connectors, I have a bunch lying around in the basement...