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I use an external hard drive to backup multiple computer drive images ( Mac
& Windows ). Time Machine wants the entire drive. Must I buy another backup
program to make an image of my mac drive?

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In article <H3NVi.57810$c9.4269@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
"Joel Graffman" <jrgraff.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I use an external hard drive to backup multiple computer drive images ( Mac
> & Windows ). Time Machine wants the entire drive.

No it doesn't.

Perhaps you can help then. When I connect the external drive, it insists on
re-formatting.

"Gregory Weston" <uce.DeleteThis@splook.com> wrote in message
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> In article <H3NVi.57810$c9.4269@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
> "Joel Graffman" <jrgraff.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> I use an external hard drive to backup multiple computer drive images (
>> Mac
>> & Windows ). Time Machine wants the entire drive.
>
> No it doesn't.

FAT32. This drive has 3 or 4 disk images using a Windows program that I
really like. Don't want to change my system for Windows backups.

"nospam" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:311020070514302317%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article <K3_Vi.13024$a9.9096@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, Joel Graffman
> <jrgraff.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps you can help then. When I connect the external drive, it insists
>> on
>> re-formatting.
>
> what format is it currently?

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:36:57 -0400, Joel Graffman wrote
(in article <zF_Vi.45569$8G5.35149@bignews4.bellsouth.net>):

> FAT32.

There's your problem. Time Machine _requires_ HFS+.

> This drive has 3 or 4 disk images using a Windows program that I
> really like. Don't want to change my system for Windows backups.

Time to buy a new drive.

>
> "nospam" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:311020070514302317%nospam@nospam.invalid...
>> In article <K3_Vi.13024$a9.9096@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, Joel Graffman
>> <jrgraff.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps you can help then. When I connect the external drive, it insists
>>> on
>>> re-formatting.
>>
>> what format is it currently?
>
>
>



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J.J. O'Shea wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:36:57 -0400, Joel Graffman wrote
> (in article <zF_Vi.45569$8G5.35149@bignews4.bellsouth.net>):
>
>> FAT32.
>
> There's your problem. Time Machine _requires_ HFS+.

Might try creating a disk image on the crumby FAT32 drive and direct
Time Machine to backup to the inside of that disk image.

+ Gregory Weston <uce RemoveThis @splook.com>:

> In article <H3NVi.57810$c9.4269@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
> "Joel Graffman" <jrgraff RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> I use an external hard drive to backup multiple computer drive images ( Mac
>> & Windows ). Time Machine wants the entire drive.
>
> No it doesn't.

Good to hear. In any case, I expect it would happily work with a
partition, so long as it has the right kind of filesystem? Then the
OP could partition his drive with an HFS+ filesystem for Time Machine,
and whatever other filesystem he needs to support in a different
partition.

--
* Harald Hanche-Olsen <URL:http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/>
- It is undesirable to believe a proposition
when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
-- Bertrand Russell

In article <13ihtks84mcp526.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>,
David Kelly <n4hhe.RemoveThis@Yahoo.com> wrote:

> J.J. O'Shea wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:36:57 -0400, Joel Graffman wrote
> > (in article <zF_Vi.45569$8G5.35149@bignews4.bellsouth.net>):
> >
> >> FAT32.
> >
> > There's your problem. Time Machine _requires_ HFS+.
>
> Might try creating a disk image on the crumby FAT32 drive and direct
> Time Machine to backup to the inside of that disk image.

I tried using a .dmg image on a Tiger based file server, and Time
Machine would not acknowledge its existence.

Bob Harris

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:39:16 GMT, Bob Harris
<nospam.News.Bob.DeleteThis@remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:

>
>I tried using a .dmg image on a Tiger based file server, and Time
>Machine would not acknowledge its existence.

That's interesting. I infer Tiger won't back up any types of mounted
drives. I suppose you can zip .dmg files you want backed up - they
shouldn't change.

In article <nospam.News.Bob-533629.20385131102007.DeleteThis@news.verizon.net>,
Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob.DeleteThis@remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:
> In article <13ihtks84mcp526.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>,
> David Kelly <n4hhe.DeleteThis@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Might try creating a disk image on the crumby FAT32 drive and direct
> > Time Machine to backup to the inside of that disk image.
>
> I tried using a .dmg image on a Tiger based file server, and Time
> Machine would not acknowledge its existence.

Bob, this is of great interest to me, so let me just confirm:

You mounted the disk image from the 10.4 server onto the Desktop of the
10.5 source, launched Time Machine, and it can't see the mounted .dmg as
a backup alternative, right?

Damn, I was hoping to use an automounting sparseimage on a secondary HD
as a way to limit TM's using up all the secondary's space without
actually partitioning the secondary. Any ideas why TM can't see the .dmg
volume? What if the server were 10.5? I know that shouldn't make a
difference, but who knows.

Thanks for the info.

--Fred

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J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to.TakeThisOut@but.see.sig> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:36:57 -0400, Joel Graffman wrote
> (in article <zF_Vi.45569$8G5.35149@bignews4.bellsouth.net>):
>
> > FAT32.
>
> There's your problem. Time Machine _requires_ HFS+.

Agreed.

> > This drive has 3 or 4 disk images using a Windows program that I
> > really like. Don't want to change my system for Windows backups.
>
> Time to buy a new drive.

Not necessarily. If there is plenty of free space on the drive, it is
possible to repartition it, to create an HFS+ partition on a drive which
uses Master Boot Record partition table (so it will be recognised by
Windows) and contains several FAT32 partitions.

Not sure what Windows would do with an HFS+ partition in this case
(hopefully ignore it). If it reports that it is damaged or unrecognsed
and offers to erase it every time the drive is connected, that would be
a major nuisance.

Leopard's Disk Utility can do some non-destructive repartitioning
(preserving partitions which haven't been modified) so it may be
possible to do this by splitting one partition into two (FAT32 and
HFS+), but I don't know if this feature works on an MBR volume. Erasing
an existing partition as HFS+ would be easier.
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David Empson
dempson.TakeThisOut@actrix.gen.nz