Kudos, Jolly Roger

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nospam.m-m-8882BB.15012821122008 DeleteThis @cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com, M-M at
nospam.m-m DeleteThis @ny.more wrote on 12/21/08 3:01 PM:

> In article <jollyroger-06C54F.13084421122008 DeleteThis @news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger DeleteThis @pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> More alcohol equals more drunk. While it wasn't the case while I was in
>> my 20s, I'm not in it to get buzzed or drunk. For me, it's all about
>> the taste! : )
>
>
> and I suppose you read Playboy for the interviews?
>
>


Read????


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In article jollyroger-22642A.14575021122008 RemoveThis @news.individual.net, Jolly Roger
at jollyroger RemoveThis @pobox.com wrote on 12/21/08 3:57 PM:

> In article
> <nospam.m-m-8882BB.15012821122008 RemoveThis @cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>,
> M-M <nospam.m-m RemoveThis @ny.more> wrote:
>
>> In article <jollyroger-06C54F.13084421122008 RemoveThis @news.individual.net>,
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger RemoveThis @pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> More alcohol equals more drunk. While it wasn't the case while I was in
>>> my 20s, I'm not in it to get buzzed or drunk. For me, it's all about
>>> the taste! : )
>>
>> and I suppose you read Playboy for the interviews?
>>
>>
>
> Touche!

Spelling error?


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In article <doraymeRidThis-6C29B3.08532222122008.RemoveThis@albasani.net>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis.RemoveThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> I think I told you about Boddingtons? In HK, we also found it in cans
> and I think they had those devices, they were surprisingly rich and
> creamy at first (giving a good first impression). Among a bunch of
> engineers, naturally, one or two cans were torn apart to see the
> business in it. Very clever it is. There is another description of the
> mechanism at:

I saw your post about Boddingtons. I've never tried it, although it's
available here. Another one with a widget is Kilkenny, which is pretty
good. There's also Old Speckled Hen, which doesn't have a widget, but
manages to get a good taste out of the tin.
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On 2008-12-21 14:37:32 -0800, Warren Oates <warren.oates DeleteThis @gmail.com> said:

> In article <doraymeRidThis-6C29B3.08532222122008 DeleteThis @albasani.net>,
> dorayme <doraymeRidThis DeleteThis @optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> I think I told you about Boddingtons? In HK, we also found it in cans
>> and I think they had those devices, they were surprisingly rich and
>> creamy at first (giving a good first impression). Among a bunch of
>> engineers, naturally, one or two cans were torn apart to see the
>> business in it. Very clever it is. There is another description of the
>> mechanism at:
>
> I saw your post about Boddingtons. I've never tried it, although it's
> available here. Another one with a widget is Kilkenny, which is pretty
> good. There's also Old Speckled Hen, which doesn't have a widget, but
> manages to get a good taste out of the tin.

It's one of my wife's favorite take-home brews. It is amazing, with
that little gizmo inside. For a canned beer it is a unique kind of
carbonation.
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Fred Moore <fmoore.RemoveThis@gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <1is8uw6.k7rbzb5hy8h8N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jamiekg.RemoveThis@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > Ever tried New Zealand beer? Speight's Old Dark is a favourite in winter
> > and Montieth's Black runs a close second.
>
> I have dim memories of consuming way too much Lion Brown (if I have the
> name right; if I don't it's because I consumed way too much of it) in
> Queenstown once upon a time. It was very delicious.

God I haven't had any Lion Brown in ...like ten years. It's not exactly
highly regarded here - we used to buy it as Uni students cause it was so
dirt cheap. Well each to there own. Certainly there's far worse -
Waikato for example

> My other favorite southern hemisphere beer is Australia's XXXX (pron:
> four-x). I had it in Perth. Don't know if it's available everywhere in
> the country. Besides being nourishing (!) on its own, the fact that it
> has the same name as a brand of US condoms didn't hurt its appeal at the
> time.

LOL! XXXX? Being a Beer snob I'm going to have to shun you from now on.
But after knocking back a few maybe we can be friends again...


BTW - some of my favourite NZ beers (with some links this time to help
out):

Speight's Old Dark:

<http://www.speights.co.nz/Great-Beers/Speight-s-Range.aspx> click on
"Speight's Old Dark". For a bit of fun:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lR1sEn8nMI>

Black Mac:

<http://www.macs.co.nz/beers/beer/black_mac/>

Sun Dance:

<http://www.macs.co.nz/beers/beer/sundance/>

Monteith's Black Beer:

<http://www.monteiths.com/nz/siteFiles/showroom/black.html>

Monteith's Radler:

<http://www.monteiths.com/nz/siteFiles/showroom/radler.html>

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Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> wrote:

> Nick Naym wrote:
> > Rolling Rock??? Ugghhhh! Horse Piss! (I'd refer to it as "Panther Piss," but
> > I don't want to insult OS X 10.3.)
>
> I've never drank horse piss, but being a former farmboy,
> I've smelled it. And to me, _all_ beers have a similar smell.
>
> Consequently, I've never even tried one.

What do you drink?
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In message of 21 Dec, gtr <xxx RemoveThis @yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2008-12-20 11:49:17 -0800, Fred Moore <fmoore RemoveThis @gcfn.org> said:
>
> > My understanding (and I'm no authority on the history of American beer)
> > is that the limp-dick taste of American beer stems from grain shortages
> > in WWII. The brewers substituted rice, which was available and cheaper.
> > Because of costs, they kept using rice after the war. They pumped the
> > savings into marketing. The rest is history. Anheuser-Busch's current ad
> > line for Bud Light is 'drinkability', meaning 'it tastes like water so
> > you'll want to drink it all night and it won't fill you up'. Oh, that's
> > so very satisfyiing...
>
> Interesting concept but untrue. Pilsners took over after prohibition. I
> don't believe, lame as it is, that Bud is made with rice. I toured the
> production faciliy of Coors at Golden, and there was no rice in the
> process. And for the most part they are the same beer as far as I'm
> concerned.

The story i was given on my visit to the US of A some thirty years after
the prohibition era was that the rubbish beer was because that was all
that was allowed in prohibition days. And they (who?) decided to keep
it that way after abandoning prohibition. However there were proper
strength English beers imported in those days. Dunno what happens now.

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On 2008-12-21 10:13:29 -0800, Tim Powys-Lybbe <tim.TakeThisOut@powys.org> said:

> The story i was given on my visit to the US of A some thirty years after
> the prohibition era was that the rubbish beer was because that was all
> that was allowed in prohibition days. And they (who?) decided to keep
> it that way after abandoning prohibition. However there were proper
> strength English beers imported in those days. Dunno what happens now.

I can't guess about the veracity of all these ideas, but that one makes
perfect sense. Light lagers and pilsners might have been easier or
quicker to brew in a illegal concern, say the back of a furniture store
or something.
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In article 2008122109510516807-xxx@yyyzzz, gtr at xxx RemoveThis @yyy.zzz wrote on
12/21/08 12:51 PM:

> On 2008-12-20 11:49:17 -0800, Fred Moore <fmoore RemoveThis @gcfn.org> said:
>
> I
> don't believe, lame as it is, that Bud is made with rice. I toured the
> production faciliy of Coors at Golden, and there was no rice in the
> process. And for the most part they are the same beer as far as I'm
> concerned.

Au contraire. Most American beer -- at least from the major breweries,
including Anheuser-Busch -- are made with 30-40% rice or corn instead of the
100% malted barley/wheat/rye grains used by most of the "craft"
microbreweries.







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On 2008-12-21 15:59:14 -0800, Nick Naym
<nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> said:

>> I don't believe, lame as it is, that Bud is made with rice. I toured the
>> production faciliy of Coors at Golden, and there was no rice in the
>> process. And for the most part they are the same beer as far as I'm
>> concerned.
>
> Au contraire. Most American beer -- at least from the major breweries,
> including Anheuser-Busch -- are made with 30-40% rice or corn instead of the
> 100% malted barley/wheat/rye grains used by most of the "craft"
> microbreweries.

"Or corn". I can go with corn. At least in my limited perspective there
was no rice. It'll take your word for it, since I don't brew the
stuff, but I'd prefer a link to the actual named contents.
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In article C5744282.21CFD%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com, Nick Naym at
nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com wrote on 12/21/08 6:59 PM:

> In article 2008122109510516807-xxx@yyyzzz, gtr at xxx.RemoveThis@yyy.zzz wrote on
> 12/21/08 12:51 PM:
>
>> On 2008-12-20 11:49:17 -0800, Fred Moore <fmoore.RemoveThis@gcfn.org> said:
>>
>> I
>> don't believe, lame as it is, that Bud is made with rice. I toured the
>> production faciliy of Coors at Golden, and there was no rice in the
>> process. And for the most part they are the same beer as far as I'm
>> concerned.
>
> Au contraire. Most American beer -- at least from the major breweries,
> including Anheuser-Busch -- are made with 30-40% rice or corn instead of the
> 100% malted barley/wheat/rye grains used by most of the "craft"
> microbreweries.
>
....which is why, IMNSHO, most American beer tastes like Horse Piss.

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On 2008-12-21 16:02:25 -0800, Nick Naym
<nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> said:

> In article C5744282.21CFD%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com, Nick Naym at
> nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com wrote on 12/21/08 6:59 PM:
>
>> In article 2008122109510516807-xxx@yyyzzz, gtr at xxx.DeleteThis@yyy.zzz wrote on
>> 12/21/08 12:51 PM:
>>
>>> On 2008-12-20 11:49:17 -0800, Fred Moore <fmoore.DeleteThis@gcfn.org> said:
>>>
>>> I
>>> don't believe, lame as it is, that Bud is made with rice. I toured the
>>> production faciliy of Coors at Golden, and there was no rice in the
>>> process. And for the most part they are the same beer as far as I'm
>>> concerned.
>>
>> Au contraire. Most American beer -- at least from the major breweries,
>> including Anheuser-Busch -- are made with 30-40% rice or corn instead of the
>> 100% malted barley/wheat/rye grains used by most of the "craft"
>> microbreweries.
>>
> ...which is why, IMNSHO, most American beer tastes like Horse Piss.

I love Japanese sake, and it is totally rice and water. And it doesn't
taste anything like horse piss. I think these brewers, despite the
rice/corn content, have to WORK to get that full flavor of horse piss.
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:21:27 -0600, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <jollyroger-E817CB.16212719122008 DeleteThis @news.individual.net>):

When speaking of beer in Austin, I have got to mention my favorite place to
enjoy beer, BB Rover's in northwest Austin. It's on Jollyville Road just
north of Oak Knoll. They have over 350 different beers available in bottles
and around 15 on draught. If you have 100 diffeent beers there you become
eligible for the "101 Club" (that last beer is on the house) and on Labor Day
can attend the special 101 Club event, open only to members and guests, and
all the beer and food is on the house!


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