Kudos, Jolly Roger

In article <doraymeRidThis-9B5169.14191820122008 RemoveThis @albasani.net>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis RemoveThis @optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> But it is just a bit of harmless terminology. As Xmas approaches I try
> to build up to a crescendo of awkwardness to be prepared for the vicious
> fights on the day. What we are doing this year is all getting into a
> huge boxing ring in a sound proof gym and when the bell goes, just going
> for each other with no rules, kids not spared a thing. Never mind
> presents, a good kick to the shins is what they will get.
>
> O and we play the Johnny Cash song about bizarre ways of toughening them
> up: "My name is Sue" at full blast.

I always wondered what the effects of having Christmas in the middle of
the summer were. Tis the season. What you need is to buy them skates and
hockey sticks and toboggans, kick the little buggers out into the snow
until the turkey's cooked. Although, we're having a goose this year.

Here in North America, we use the word "beer" generically. No one ever
says, "I'm going out for a stout."
--
W. Oates

Nick Naym wrote:
> Rolling Rock??? Ugghhhh! Horse Piss! (I'd refer to it as "Panther Piss," but
> I don't want to insult OS X 10.3.)

Go ahead; we can take it.

--
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Nick Naym wrote:
> Rolling Rock??? Ugghhhh! Horse Piss! (I'd refer to it as "Panther Piss," but
> I don't want to insult OS X 10.3.)

I've never drank horse piss, but being a former farmboy,
I've smelled it. And to me, _all_ beers have a similar smell.

Consequently, I've never even tried one.

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On 2008-12-20 06:25:35 -0800, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> said:

> Nick Naym wrote:
>> Rolling Rock??? Ugghhhh! Horse Piss! (I'd refer to it as "Panther Piss," but
>> I don't want to insult OS X 10.3.)
>
> I've never drank horse piss, but being a former farmboy,
> I've smelled it. And to me, _all_ beers have a similar smell.
>
> Consequently, I've never even tried one.

That leaves more for us, farm boy!
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In article <1is8uw6.k7rbzb5hy8h8N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
jamiekg.DeleteThis@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Ever tried New Zealand beer? Speight's Old Dark is a favourite in winter
> and Montieth's Black runs a close second.

I have dim memories of consuming way too much Lion Brown (if I have the
name right; if I don't it's because I consumed way too much of it) in
Queenstown once upon a time. It was very delicious.

My other favorite southern hemisphere beer is Australia's XXXX (pron:
four-x). I had it in Perth. Don't know if it's available everywhere in
the country. Besides being nourishing (!) on its own, the fact that it
has the same name as a brand of US condoms didn't hurt its appeal at the
time.

If I may respond here to a few others:

My understanding (and I'm no authority on the history of American beer)
is that the limp-dick taste of American beer stems from grain shortages
in WWII. The brewers substituted rice, which was available and cheaper.
Because of costs, they kept using rice after the war. They pumped the
savings into marketing. The rest is history. Anheuser-Busch's current ad
line for Bud Light is 'drinkability', meaning 'it tastes like water so
you'll want to drink it all night and it won't fill you up'. Oh, that's
so very satisfyiing...

Warren, you really like Rolling Rock?!? You do know that it's brewed
from mine effluent, don't you? That's why they serve it so cold; so you
can't taste it. And, yes, besides bottles, cans, and kegs, you can get
it in 'jugs'. At least it has more flavor than Coors, who was sued
over calling Coors Light a 'beer'. Furthermore, you live in Ontario. Why
don't you drink Ricard's Red (hope I spelled that correctly)? I
discovered it in Sault St. Marie last fall. REALLY tasty!

Happy Solstice! Leave some beer out for Ole St. Nick,

--Fred

In article <2008121921135216807-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx.DeleteThis@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2008-12-19 19:19:18 -0800, dorayme <doraymeRidThis.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au> said:
>
> > In article <2008121916064650878-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx.DeleteThis@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> >
> >> The liquid *inside*
> >> the bottle is actually the beer. The variety of beer they have become
> >> known by is their stout... beer.
> >
> > We home brewers tend to distinguish stout from beer, Under beer, we tend
> > to use terms like "new" and "old" (an Australian distinction between the
> > lighter and darker beers) or simply light and dark. A lot simply depends
> > on the roast. But when it gets to be so dark as stout, it is well... a
> > stout and we tend not to call it a beer any more.
>
> Yeah, the IPA folks and the porter guys all have their little prickly
> domains. I understand. The way my dad said rock wasn't music, and his
> dad said jazz wasn't music and the way I say that rap isn't music.

I follow with interest what Americans think of American beer. Even
commercial Australian beer, considered by many to be much better with a
real taste, is not to be compared with the beers that came out of
Germany and even other European countries. Things are different now with
so much trade across continents, and small boutique local breweries.

One of the big factors in good beer is the use of malt and not sugar to
make up the alcohol. Sugar being very cheap here is used a real lot in
the mass market beers. You can hardly taste the malt. Even cheap beer
making kits operate on a lot of sugar basis. But the best beer is made
with no sugar at all, just the grain. Those who buy great European beers
or make beer from the grain never dream of using the normal kit beer or
even much drinking mass market beers (Fosters!).

--
dorayme

In article <2008122009010116807-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx.RemoveThis@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> I got a Tennants which I
> absolutely loved. I came back again to get it again to find that
> Tennants was no longer providing product in the US.

One of the great British institutions is called "old purple tin" or just
"purple tin." It's Tenants XXX 10% ale, sold in (aha!) a purple tin and
enjoyed mostly by football hooligans. Powerful stuff. There's a band
called Alabama 3 (not to be confused with the American country band) who
have a whole song about it.
--
W. Oates

I just grabbed a six pack of Guinness Extra Stout. It's yummy! I
expected it to be stronger than the Sam Adams I had the other day; but
it pulls it off *without* an increase in bitterness, which is a good
thing IMO. Less or better hops, perhaps? All in all, not bad. : )

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger DeleteThis @pobox.com> wrote:

> I just grabbed a six pack of Guinness Extra Stout. It's yummy! I
> expected it to be stronger than the Sam Adams I had the other day; but
> it pulls it off *without* an increase in bitterness, which is a good
> thing IMO. Less or better hops, perhaps? All in all, not bad. : )

You went all these years without having had a Guinness? Wow!

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In article <1is9d1l.4pu9bn50coexN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST.RemoveThis@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger.RemoveThis@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > I just grabbed a six pack of Guinness Extra Stout. It's yummy! I
> > expected it to be stronger than the Sam Adams I had the other day; but
> > it pulls it off *without* an increase in bitterness, which is a good
> > thing IMO. Less or better hops, perhaps? All in all, not bad. : )
>
> You went all these years without having had a Guinness? Wow!

Yep. Like I said, I stopped drinking beer when I was around 24 years old
in favor of mixed drinks, and haven't touched one since a week or so
ago. Before that, I mostly drank Budweiser. I'm not really all that
ashamed. I doubt I would have appreciated what makes a good beer good
back then anyway. : )

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In article <2008121815310275249-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx DeleteThis @yyy.zzz> wrote:

> Not for anything in particular but your general habit of unflagging
> aid, with or without an occasional snarl, for damn near everybody all
> year long.
>
> Kudos!

I too would like to thank Jolly Roger and everyone here and at
comp.sys.mac.system who helped me develop and implement my first
comprehensive backup strategy.

I will try to be more careful with apostrophes!

Meerkat1

In article <2008122009010116807-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx DeleteThis @yyy.zzz> wrote:

> I'm carping about the damn
> temperature. "People here like their beer as cold as they can get it,"
> I'm told by the waitress.

On the issue of temperature, I can tell you that Australians
traditionally have liked their beer real cold. I recall a short film
(sort of promotional for BP Australia) in which an Englishman is given a
lift in a cattle road train in central Australia. The truckie stops at a
roadside cafe/pub and the Englishman remarks on how cold the beer is.
The truckie replied that "Here we drink the stuff, not clean our teeth
with it!"

Truth is, the better the beer, the less cold you need to have it. A warm
Fosters *does* taste like horse piss (Wes accurately noted the smell
connection). But a well made richly malted beer can be enjoyed at less
than freezing point.

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In article <doraymeRidThis-5B0BE9.08303821122008.DeleteThis@albasani.net>,
dorayme <doraymeRidThis.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> On the issue of temperature, I can tell you that Australians
> traditionally have liked their beer real cold. I recall a short film
> (sort of promotional for BP Australia) in which an Englishman is given a
> lift in a cattle road train in central Australia. The truckie stops at a
> roadside cafe/pub and the Englishman remarks on how cold the beer is.
> The truckie replied that "Here we drink the stuff, not clean our teeth
> with it!"
>
> Truth is, the better the beer, the less cold you need to have it. A warm
> Fosters *does* taste like horse piss (Wes accurately noted the smell
> connection). But a well made richly malted beer can be enjoyed at less
> than freezing point.

When traveling overseas, a 99.99% accurate rule of the road is that a
bar run by an Aussie will have the coldest beer in town. Very valuable
knowledge in the tropics.

--Fred