Java development on OS X; XCode vs The World.

toby <toby.RemoveThis@telegraphics.com.au> wrote:

> pmp wrote:
> > I'm doing some Java development on my OS X machines (Pismo/400/320MB,
> > Quicksilver/733/1.2GB, both running 10.3.9). XCode ont he Pismo is dog
> > slow but on the QS is relatively better.
> >
> > Are there any other alternatives to Java? Does CodeWarrior do it? Has
> > anybody had experience with other IDEs such as Eclipse?
>
> Plenty. Eclipse is terrific: try it.

What machine are you running it on? On my Pismo/400 (320 MB RAM,
10.2. it was dog slow. I'm sure that is because of my hardware
though.

>
> --T
>
> >
> > I'd like to avoid using the Make/vi combo if I can via Terminal.app.
> >
> > Tks.

In article <1h1kbt3.1l52ofaw8c4n5N%patrick@tendim.cjb.net>,
patrick DeleteThis @tendim.cjb.net (pmp) wrote:

> toby <toby DeleteThis @telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
>
> > pmp wrote:
> > > I'm doing some Java development on my OS X machines (Pismo/400/320MB,
> > > Quicksilver/733/1.2GB, both running 10.3.9). XCode ont he Pismo is dog
> > > slow but on the QS is relatively better.
> > >
> > > Are there any other alternatives to Java? Does CodeWarrior do it? Has
> > > anybody had experience with other IDEs such as Eclipse?
> >
> > Plenty. Eclipse is terrific: try it.
>
> What machine are you running it on? On my Pismo/400 (320 MB RAM,
> 10.2. it was dog slow. I'm sure that is because of my hardware
> though.

I would bet that RAM was the biggest problem with that hardware. Your
OS was two versions back, and two and a half years is a long time for an
OS. (Especially since they have been revising the JDK fairly steadily.)
That said, low RAM for OS X is a killer, and Eclipse is a RAM hog.

Most of the IDEs, though, are RAM hogs. I put a gigabyte on dev
machines to make Eclipse and IDEA happy.

Scott

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With Eclipse - you can certainly bet it's a memory issue... I was on
a Al PowerBook G4/1.5/512MB running 10.3.9... last week I added
another GB to take it up to 1.5GB total... and Eclipse flies
compared to with only 512.

Like the above poster points out Eclipse is a hog... Even on my
Windoze dev box, a GB doesn't hack it with Eclipse... think I'll
need to get another gig for it as well... Nowadays, I wouldn't work
with Java on a system with anything less than 1.5GB if not 2GB... The
IDE's are fat (and for some silly reason all written in Java) and the
JDK, J2EE appservers, and other misc libraries required to do
anything usefull keep getting exponentially bigger with every
release.

> I would bet that RAM was the biggest problem with that hardware. Your

> OS was two versions back, and two and a half years is a long time
> for an

> OS. (Especially since they have been revising the JDK fairly
> steadily.)

> That said, low RAM for OS X is a killer, and Eclipse is a RAM hog.

> Most of the IDEs, though, are RAM hogs. I put a gigabyte on dev

> machines to make Eclipse and IDEA happy.


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nsomnac wrote:
> With Eclipse - you can certainly bet it's a memory issue... I was on
> a Al PowerBook G4/1.5/512MB running 10.3.9... last week I added
> another GB to take it up to 1.5GB total... and Eclipse flies
> compared to with only 512.

No problems with Eclipse on this 1GB PowerBook. Linux C/C++ devs run it
ok in 512MB (Gentoo 2.6, JDK 1.4.2).

>
> Like the above poster points out Eclipse is a hog... Even on my
> Windoze dev box, a GB doesn't hack it with Eclipse... think I'll
> need to get another gig for it as well... Nowadays, I wouldn't work
> with Java on a system with anything less than 1.5GB if not 2GB... The
> IDE's are fat (and for some silly reason all written in Java) and the
> JDK, J2EE appservers, and other misc libraries required to do
> anything usefull keep getting exponentially bigger with every
> release.
>
> > I would bet that RAM was the biggest problem with that hardware. Your
>
> > OS was two versions back, and two and a half years is a long time
> > for an
>
> > OS. (Especially since they have been revising the JDK fairly
> > steadily.)
>
> > That said, low RAM for OS X is a killer, and Eclipse is a RAM hog.
>
> > Most of the IDEs, though, are RAM hogs. I put a gigabyte on dev
>
> > machines to make Eclipse and IDEA happy.
>
>
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>>>>> Piet van Oostrum <piet.TakeThisOut@cs.uu.nl> (PvO) wrote:

>PvO> How do you configure XCode to use Java 5? I have already installed it, but
>PvO> Java 1.4 is still the default.

I already found it:
http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/Java/Java50RN/index.html
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