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erniemac

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Since: Jun 16, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:12 pm
Post subject: Data transfer over internet
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While waiting foe Software Updates to download, I used Activity Monitor
to calculate downloading.
With iPod update-

Total Update-41.8 MB
Average Downloading-36.4 KB/second

Using Activity Monitor-

Averaged over 5 seconds-
IN 38 to 39 packets/second
54 to 55 KB/sec
OUT about 20 packets per second
1,28 to 1.29 KB/sec

Averaged over 1/2 seconf-
Interesting pattern with small gaps every 6 packets ?

As this is a DUPLEX transfer, data is 100% accurate- has to be.
This would be from a local mirror using broabband telephone connection
to a local exchange some 1 kilometer away.

Later, I will log a QT download from APPLE to compare a SIMPLEX
transfer.

I remember a story I heard many years ago when doing R&D-

At a monistary, a group of monks were trying to find out how many teeth
a donkey had. After much deliberation, no consensus was reached.
Suddenly, a new monk suggested that they go out and COUNT the number of
teeth in a REAL donkey. He was IMMEDIATELY expelled !

Seems somewhat familiar happens in GROUPS ?

Ernie Lee
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erniemac

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Data transfer over internet [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Tom Stiller wrote:
> In article <1151619158.707183.225760 DeleteThis @y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
> erniemac DeleteThis @comcen.com.au wrote:
>
> > While waiting foe Software Updates to download, I used Activity Monitor
> > to calculate downloading.
> > With iPod update-
> >
> > Total Update-41.8 MB
> > Average Downloading-36.4 KB/second
> >
> > Using Activity Monitor-
> >
> > Averaged over 5 seconds-
> > IN 38 to 39 packets/second
> > 54 to 55 KB/sec
> > OUT about 20 packets per second
> > 1,28 to 1.29 KB/sec
> >
> > Averaged over 1/2 seconf-
> > Interesting pattern with small gaps every 6 packets ?
> >
> > As this is a DUPLEX transfer, data is 100% accurate- has to be.
> > This would be from a local mirror using broabband telephone connection
> > to a local exchange some 1 kilometer away.
> >
> > Later, I will log a QT download from APPLE to compare a SIMPLEX
> > transfer.
> >
> [story snipped]
>
> I don't think I understand the point of this post. When computing data
> transfer, are you counting total bits transferred or net data
> transferred?
>
> When you emphasize *duplex* vs. *simplex* are you distinguishing between
> full and half duplex or do you really mean a true one-way transmission?
> If the latter, where do you get a one-way transfer from an Apple
> download server?
>
> --
> Tom Stiller
>
> PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3

In ye olden days, SIMPLEX was one way transmission with no check of
accurracy using checksums.

DUPLEX checked accuracy of data using checksums. If a packet failed a
checksum, then a request was sent back to the sender to retransmit that
packet ! This process repeated until accuracy was obtained or
"transmiission failed" signal was sent.

Any further advances on this very old method for data transmission ?

I might go back and read your ASCI2 code !
Ernie Lee
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G.T.

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Since: Oct 25, 2005
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Data transfer over internet [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<erniemac.DeleteThis@comcen.com.au> wrote in message
news:1151622529.615500.184230@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Tom Stiller wrote:
> > In article <1151619158.707183.225760.DeleteThis@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
> > erniemac.DeleteThis@comcen.com.au wrote:
> >
> > > While waiting foe Software Updates to download, I used Activity
Monitor
> > > to calculate downloading.
> > > With iPod update-
> > >
> > > Total Update-41.8 MB
> > > Average Downloading-36.4 KB/second
> > >
> > > Using Activity Monitor-
> > >
> > > Averaged over 5 seconds-
> > > IN 38 to 39 packets/second
> > > 54 to 55 KB/sec
> > > OUT about 20 packets per second
> > > 1,28 to 1.29 KB/sec
> > >
> > > Averaged over 1/2 seconf-
> > > Interesting pattern with small gaps every 6 packets ?
> > >
> > > As this is a DUPLEX transfer, data is 100% accurate- has to be.
> > > This would be from a local mirror using broabband telephone connection
> > > to a local exchange some 1 kilometer away.
> > >
> > > Later, I will log a QT download from APPLE to compare a SIMPLEX
> > > transfer.
> > >
> > [story snipped]
> >
> > I don't think I understand the point of this post. When computing data
> > transfer, are you counting total bits transferred or net data
> > transferred?
> >
> > When you emphasize *duplex* vs. *simplex* are you distinguishing between
> > full and half duplex or do you really mean a true one-way transmission?
> > If the latter, where do you get a one-way transfer from an Apple
> > download server?
> >
> > --
> > Tom Stiller
> >
> > PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3
>
> In ye olden days, SIMPLEX was one way transmission with no check of
> accurracy using checksums.
>
> DUPLEX checked accuracy of data using checksums. If a packet failed a
> checksum, then a request was sent back to the sender to retransmit that
> packet ! This process repeated until accuracy was obtained or
> "transmiission failed" signal was sent.
>
> Any further advances on this very old method for data transmission ?
>
> I might go back and read your ASCI2 code !

Keep it coming Bernie Mac, you're funnier than the USA's Bernie Mac.

Greg
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Dave Balderstone

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Since: May 31, 2006
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Data transfer over internet [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <1151619158.707183.225760.TakeThisOut@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
<erniemac.TakeThisOut@comcen.com.au> wrote:

> While waiting foe Software Updates to download, I used Activity Monitor
> to calculate downloading.
> With iPod update-
>
> Total Update-41.8 MB
> Average Downloading-36.4 KB/second
>
> Using Activity Monitor-
>
> Averaged over 5 seconds-
> IN 38 to 39 packets/second
> 54 to 55 KB/sec
> OUT about 20 packets per second
> 1,28 to 1.29 KB/sec
>
> Averaged over 1/2 seconf-
> Interesting pattern with small gaps every 6 packets ?
>
> As this is a DUPLEX transfer, data is 100% accurate- has to be.
> This would be from a local mirror using broabband telephone connection
> to a local exchange some 1 kilometer away.
>
> Later, I will log a QT download from APPLE to compare a SIMPLEX
> transfer.
>
> I remember a story I heard many years ago when doing R&D-
>
> At a monistary, a group of monks were trying to find out how many teeth
> a donkey had. After much deliberation, no consensus was reached.
> Suddenly, a new monk suggested that they go out and COUNT the number of
> teeth in a REAL donkey. He was IMMEDIATELY expelled !
>
> Seems somewhat familiar happens in GROUPS ?
>
> Ernie Lee

Atta boy, Ernie! I was WORRIED that you might somehow POST a
COMPREHENSIBLE message, but YOU didn't LET me down!

Go COUNT those teeth, lad!
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erniemac

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Since: Jun 16, 2006
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:57 pm
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Just looked at Bon Jovi promo-
http://islandrecords.com/bonjovi/quicktime_promo.las

Couple of times went without STOP-STARTS, but last time very jerky-
line congestion?

I guess QT using H.240 Codec with little or no buffer. Even with non
interupted run, frame rate was too slow for good viewing. I would not
like to watch any more than a few minutes of this type of Video.

I assume DUPLEX as video stalled when data stream interupted .

Ernie Lee
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Tom Stiller

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Since: Jun 19, 2005
Posts: 372



(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Data transfer over internet [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <1151619158.707183.225760 RemoveThis @y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
erniemac RemoveThis @comcen.com.au wrote:

> While waiting foe Software Updates to download, I used Activity Monitor
> to calculate downloading.
> With iPod update-
>
> Total Update-41.8 MB
> Average Downloading-36.4 KB/second
>
> Using Activity Monitor-
>
> Averaged over 5 seconds-
> IN 38 to 39 packets/second
> 54 to 55 KB/sec
> OUT about 20 packets per second
> 1,28 to 1.29 KB/sec
>
> Averaged over 1/2 seconf-
> Interesting pattern with small gaps every 6 packets ?
>
> As this is a DUPLEX transfer, data is 100% accurate- has to be.
> This would be from a local mirror using broabband telephone connection
> to a local exchange some 1 kilometer away.
>
> Later, I will log a QT download from APPLE to compare a SIMPLEX
> transfer.
>
[story snipped]

I don't think I understand the point of this post. When computing data
transfer, are you counting total bits transferred or net data
transferred?

When you emphasize *duplex* vs. *simplex* are you distinguishing between
full and half duplex or do you really mean a true one-way transmission?
If the latter, where do you get a one-way transfer from an Apple
download server?

--
Tom Stiller

PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3
7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
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Davoud

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Since: Jul 19, 2005
Posts: 228



(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:58 pm
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<erniemac.DeleteThis@comcen.com.au> wrote:

> Later, I will log a QT download from APPLE to compare a SIMPLEX
> transfer.

Please don't wait too long. People all over the world have seen your
post and are anxious to see what is in that log.

Davoud

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usenet *at* davidillig dawt com
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erniemac

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:26 pm
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>
> You may be interested in installing "MenuMeters"
> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17713
>
> Much easier to monitor your network traffic.
>
> Bob Harris

Thanks I will give it a try .

Ernie Lee
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Bob Harris

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:06 am
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In article
<1151619158.707183.225760 DeleteThis @y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
erniemac DeleteThis @comcen.com.au wrote:

> While waiting foe Software Updates to download, I used Activity Monitor
> to calculate downloading.
> With iPod update-
>
> Total Update-41.8 MB
> Average Downloading-36.4 KB/second
>
> Using Activity Monitor-
>
> Averaged over 5 seconds-
> IN 38 to 39 packets/second
> 54 to 55 KB/sec
> OUT about 20 packets per second
> 1,28 to 1.29 KB/sec
>
> Averaged over 1/2 seconf-
> Interesting pattern with small gaps every 6 packets ?
>
> As this is a DUPLEX transfer, data is 100% accurate- has to be.
> This would be from a local mirror using broabband telephone connection
> to a local exchange some 1 kilometer away.
>
> Later, I will log a QT download from APPLE to compare a SIMPLEX
> transfer.
>
> I remember a story I heard many years ago when doing R&D-
>
> At a monistary, a group of monks were trying to find out how many teeth
> a donkey had. After much deliberation, no consensus was reached.
> Suddenly, a new monk suggested that they go out and COUNT the number of
> teeth in a REAL donkey. He was IMMEDIATELY expelled !
>
> Seems somewhat familiar happens in GROUPS ?
>
> Ernie Lee

You may be interested in installing "MenuMeters"
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17713

Much easier to monitor your network traffic.

Bob Harris
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