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cmashieldscapting

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:57 am
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In trying to determine the best media data storage method, I've been
informed that DVD-R is one session and permanent while DVD+RW is
multi-session and to some extent reusable. As I understand it, you
burn something to DVD-R once and that's it--so if it doesn't fill up
the whole disk it's kind of a waste, and if you make a mistake burning
it you'd better find a creative decorative use for the disk as it's no
earthly use ever again for any kind of media storage. With DVD+RW you
can redo and add to things until you get them the way you like.

So I have a few questions.

1. Are there ANY advantages to DVD-R over DVD+RW?

2. Is the quality any better?

3. Are DVD+RW disks susceptible to accidents such as unintentionally
being erased, and DVD-R not?

And, lastly

4. If you complete a DVD+RW disk is there any way to make it permanent
(such as there is by locking a video or cassette tape)?

Thanks for any clarification as to reasons why for these different
methods of storage!

Cori
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:12 am
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cmashieldscapting.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> In trying to determine the best media data storage method, I've been
> informed that DVD-R is one session and permanent while DVD+RW is
> multi-session and to some extent reusable. As I understand it, you
> burn something to DVD-R once and that's it--so if it doesn't fill up
> the whole disk it's kind of a waste, and if you make a mistake burning
> it you'd better find a creative decorative use for the disk as it's no
> earthly use ever again for any kind of media storage. With DVD+RW you
> can redo and add to things until you get them the way you like.
>
> So I have a few questions.
>
> 1. Are there ANY advantages to DVD-R over DVD+RW?
>
> 2. Is the quality any better?
>
> 3. Are DVD+RW disks susceptible to accidents such as unintentionally
> being erased, and DVD-R not?
>
> And, lastly
>
> 4. If you complete a DVD+RW disk is there any way to make it
> permanent
> (such as there is by locking a video or cassette tape)?

Once I get a DVD+RW the way I want it - I copy it to DVD+R and that
becomes my "original" for future copying to other DVD+R (or DVD-R if the
person I'm giving it to has one of the few machines I've met that
doesn't like +R). I then re-use the +RW.

> Thanks for any clarification as to reasons why for these different
> methods of storage!
>
> Cori

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cmashieldscapting

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:36 pm
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From: "Cynthia G" <cynthiag31DONTR... RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:12:57 -0500

> Once I get a DVD+RW the way I want it  -  I copy it to DVD+R and that
becomes my "original" for future copying to other DVD+R (or DVD-R if
the
person I'm giving it to has one of the few machines I've met that
doesn't like +R).  I then re-use the +RW.

That's what I was going to do at first but then wondered whether the
contents would suffer any loss in quality. Thanks.

Cori
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cmashieldscapting

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:56 pm
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Well, I looked at the box containing my DVD burner and it has a
combination "+" and "-" symbol, so I'm going to go ahead and order the
DVD+RW disks as planned.

Cori
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:33 pm
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<cmashieldscapting.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135328232.302610.302320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> In trying to determine the best media data storage method, I've been
> informed that DVD-R is one session and permanent while DVD+RW is
> multi-session and to some extent reusable. As I understand it, you
> burn something to DVD-R once and that's it--so if it doesn't fill up
> the whole disk it's kind of a waste, and if you make a mistake burning
> it you'd better find a creative decorative use for the disk as it's no
> earthly use ever again for any kind of media storage. With DVD+RW you
> can redo and add to things until you get them the way you like.
>
> So I have a few questions.
>
> 1. Are there ANY advantages to DVD-R over DVD+RW?
>
> 2. Is the quality any better?
>
> 3. Are DVD+RW disks susceptible to accidents such as unintentionally
> being erased, and DVD-R not?
>
> And, lastly
>
> 4. If you complete a DVD+RW disk is there any way to make it permanent
> (such as there is by locking a video or cassette tape)?
>
> Thanks for any clarification as to reasons why for these different
> methods of storage!
>
> Cori
>

There is an article on CDFreaks about the advantage of +R over -R although I
doubt if everybody agrees. As far as RW of any type goes, I only use them
for moving a PC recorded TV program to my player upstairs for viewing and
deleting or for fooling around. Anything I really want to have minimum
problems with or higher data integrity such as for data backups, I use
non-RW. Just the way I see it.
billh
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Bob

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:43 pm
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On 23 Dec 2005 00:57:12 -0800, cmashieldscapting.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:

>In trying to determine the best media data storage method, I've been
>informed that DVD-R is one session and permanent while DVD+RW is
>multi-session and to some extent reusable.

You need to know that there are two standards for WORM(*) discs

DVD -R
DVD +R

and for RW(*) discs.

DVD -RW
DVD +RW

This is sometimes contracted to:

DVD -R/RW
DVD +R/RW

You use the kind of disc (-R or +R)that your unit is made to write to.
Some DVDRs write only to one or the other and some to both. Most will
read both.

Furthermore, with most computer DVD burners there is one kind (either
-R or +R) that performs better than the other. You have to experiment
to find out.

In any case, the quality of the disc is critical. The recommendation
given by the experts at CDFreaks is to go with Taiyo Yuden for regular
discs and Verbatim for RW discs.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=146146

Check out:

supermediastore.com
meritline.com
rima.com

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(*)WORM = Write Once Read Many
(*) RW = Re-Writable

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:22 pm
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Well, I ordered a couple of DVD+RW disks because this is what I want to
do:

1. Burn one movie (series of clips) from iMovie onto DVD.

2. Redo it if it comes out wrong the first time without the disk being
toast after one try.

3. Possibly add another movie (series of clips from a different file)
onto the same DVD, after the first one.

4. Maybe even put more short movies onto the same disk after these two
if I have more later. Is this possible, yes or no? Thanks.

Cori
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:53 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:09 am
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From: JimK <1al....TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:16:53 GMT

I've never seen a video DVD writer program that does multi-session
DVD video, even though a standalone DVD Recorder does it all the time.

As usual, the more I ask, the more possible things to go wrong I learn.
At worst, I could have paid extra for DVD+RW disks that say they hold
over two hours' worth of material, and then find the machine I bought
won't record more than one session so the potential amount of material
on the DVD is moot. At the very worst, maybe the darn thing won't even
play in my player! I already put five days of blood, toil, sweat, and
tears into those titles and am VERY proud of them! I'll be very upset
if I either can't use them at all, or have to set up the video camera
in front of the computer and record a blurry copy that way as there's
no way to transfer it! But I won't completely give way to despair
until I have a chance to examine the DVD burner and the manual--perhaps
all is not lost. Happy Holidays or whatever it is we're calling the
Season's Events now.

Cori
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:00 am
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JimK wrote:
>
> I've had good luck using InfoDisc DVD+RW. Don't know of any media
> testing software for the Mac, I use Disc Quality test using Nero
> CDSpeed
> http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nerocdspeed2908mf.jpg



http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=DVD_Media_Inspector

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:52 am
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Bob <spam DeleteThis @uce.gov> wrote:

> On 23 Dec 2005 00:57:12 -0800, cmashieldscapting DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >In trying to determine the best media data storage method, I've been
> >informed that DVD-R is one session and permanent while DVD+RW is
> >multi-session and to some extent reusable.
>
> You need to know that there are two standards for WORM(*) discs
>
> DVD -R
> DVD +R
>
> and for RW(*) discs.
>
> DVD -RW
> DVD +RW
>
> This is sometimes contracted to:
>
> DVD -R/RW
> DVD +R/RW
>
> You use the kind of disc (-R or +R)that your unit is made to write to.
> Some DVDRs write only to one or the other and some to both. Most will
> read both.
>
> Furthermore, with most computer DVD burners there is one kind (either
> -R or +R) that performs better than the other. You have to experiment
> to find out.

What is the situation with videos on a DVD player? I have noticed that
DVD recorders specify which media they will accept. But for DVD players,
the ones whose specifications I have seen mention only DVD -R?RW and say
nothing about the + formats.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:50 am
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On 23 Dec 2005 18:22:31 -0800, cmashieldscapting.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:

>Well, I ordered a couple of DVD+RW disks because this is what I want to
>do:

>1. Burn one movie (series of clips) from iMovie onto DVD.

>2. Redo it if it comes out wrong the first time without the disk being
>toast after one try.

You write to hard disk and test from there. No need to burn a DVD.

>3. Possibly add another movie (series of clips from a different file)
>onto the same DVD, after the first one.

>4. Maybe even put more short movies onto the same disk after these two
>if I have more later. Is this possible, yes or no? Thanks.

You can add to WORM discs with the right software.

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The opposite of a great truth is another truth."
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:51 am
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:16:53 GMT, JimK <1alpha.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've never seen a video DVD writer program that does multi-session
>DVD video, even though a standalone DVD Recorder does it all the time.

Nero will do multi-session.


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:52 am
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 07:52:22 +0000, danspam.DeleteThis@f2s.com (Daniel Cohen)
wrote:

>But for DVD players,
>the ones whose specifications I have seen mention only DVD -R?RW and say
>nothing about the + formats.

Which ones?


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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:56 am
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On 23 Dec 2005 12:56:28 -0800, cmashieldscapting RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:

>Well, I looked at the box containing my DVD burner and it has a
>combination "+" and "-" symbol, so I'm going to go ahead and order the
>DVD+RW disks as planned.

I recommend you do a full erase (*) the first time and then let your
DVDR "format" the discs. Sometimes the manufacturer will put something
on the new RW that confuses the DVDR. If after a lot of use a disc
acts up, do the full erase again.

---

(*) Use Nero, DVD Decrypter or CD-DVD Speed. The latter two are free.


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