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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:20 am
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A buddy (non Mac user like me) just got an AirBook notebook. We have
several questions but don't know where to go to get the answers.
He needs to run Microsoft Access db application what is the preferred
method of doing this on the AirBook?
He needs to expand the number of USB port what do you suggest.?
I noticed it took quite awhile to boot up what can we do to speed it up?
Any recommendations for books to learn how to use it and to learn Macs
in general?
Any recommendations to enhance the AirBook experience?
Should I post this question anyplace else?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:20 am
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See comments below. These are my opinions. YMMV!
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Brian Ehni
On 3/19/08 8:20 PM, in article HZiEj.7329$rR1.4788@trndny09, "Tom"
<yahoo.RemoveThis@earthlink.com> wrote:
> A buddy (non Mac user like me) just got an AirBook notebook. We have
> several questions but don't know where to go to get the answers.
>
> He needs to run Microsoft Access db application what is the preferred
> method of doing this on the AirBook?
Either run Boot Camp and reboot to Windows XP, or, as I prefer, install
Parallels, then Windows XP for MacOS to Windows OS drag and drop. Either
way, you will need Office as well; Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom, does
not offer Access as part of the Mac Office Suite. There's also FileMakerPro
- a DB program that is cross-platform!
> He needs to expand the number of USB port what do you suggest.?
The only way to expand the number of ports on that book is to use a USB hub,
which means you can't also use the USB optical drive (as it requires more
power than standard).
> I noticed it took quite awhile to boot up what can we do to speed it up?
Is it a standard hard drive or solid state? Off hand, I can't think of much
either way, but the SSD drive boots faster than the regular kind. The 80gb
standard drive is 4200rpm, which means it's the slowest speed hard drive out
there (the MacBook and MacBook Pro use 5400 or 7200 rpm drives).
> Any recommendations for books to learn how to use it and to learn Macs
> in general?
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514129/?CMP=ILC-MMh0me for starters.
David Pouge has plenty of good Mac Books on his site.
> Any recommendations to enhance the AirBook experience?
Unless you just have to have a MacBook Air (the proper name), return it and
get a MacBook. Faster processors, up to twice the RAM, up to 4 times the
hard drive, built-in optical drive, more than one USB port, a firewire port,
and wired ethernet! Sadly, it will cost you at least $300.00 less and be 2
pounds heavier, for the same footprint. See a comparison at:
<http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nn
mm=browse&mco=MTE3MzI&node=home/shop_mac/family/macbook>
Be sure to copy and paste the whole link if it doesn't all come across!
Perhaps I haven't made my self clear: the MacBook Air is a nice book for
travel and light use (email, word processing). For more serious work
(especially when running Windows and intensive Applications like Photoshop
or Access, you will want the MacBook, or MacBook Pro for the extra RAM they
can have and also the more powerful processors.
I wouldn't have a MacBook Air unless it was a gift. Even then, I'd Ebay it
and get a MacBook or MacBook Pro.
>
> Should I post this question anyplace else?
>
> Tom
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:20 am
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On 3/19/08 9:01 PM, in article C4072F9F.A565C%behni@comcast.net, "Brian Paul
Ehni" <behni.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> See comments below. These are my opinions. YMMV!
Oh, and I forgot to add that the MacBook has user-replaceable batteries! The
MacBook Air does not.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:31 am
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"Brian Paul Ehni" <behni RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>> He needs to run Microsoft Access db application what is the
>>> preferred
>> method of doing this on the AirBook?
>
> Either run Boot Camp and reboot to Windows XP, or, as I prefer, install
> Parallels, then Windows XP for MacOS to Windows OS drag and drop. Either
> way, you will need Office as well; Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom,
> does
> not offer Access as part of the Mac Office Suite. There's also
> FileMakerPro
> - a DB program that is cross-platform!
He doesn't need to manipulate the data just view it. Do you think
FileMakerPro is the way to go?
>
>> He needs to expand the number of USB port what do you suggest.?
>
> The only way to expand the number of ports on that book is to use a USB
> hub,
> which means you can't also use the USB optical drive (as it requires more
> power than standard).
Should he get a powered USB hub? Any recommendations?
>
>> I noticed it took quite awhile to boot up what can we do to speed it
>> up?
>
> Is it a standard hard drive or solid state? Off hand, I can't think of
> much
> either way, but the SSD drive boots faster than the regular kind. The 80gb
> standard drive is 4200rpm, which means it's the slowest speed hard drive
> out
> there (the MacBook and MacBook Pro use 5400 or 7200 rpm drives).
Yes, I checked that out slow CPU as well.
>
>> Any recommendations for books to learn how to use it and to learn
>> Macs
>> in general?
>
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514129/?CMP=ILC-MMh0me for starters.
> David Pouge has plenty of good Mac Books on his site.
>
>> Any recommendations to enhance the AirBook experience?
>
> Unless you just have to have a MacBook Air (the proper name), return it
> and
> get a MacBook. Faster processors, up to twice the RAM, up to 4 times the
> hard drive, built-in optical drive, more than one USB port, a firewire
> port,
> and wired ethernet! Sadly, it will cost you at least $300.00 less and be 2
> pounds heavier, for the same footprint. See a comparison at:
> <http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nn
> mm=browse&mco=MTE3MzI&node=home/shop_mac/family/macbook>
I agree and I advisded him not to buy the Air.
>
> Be sure to copy and paste the whole link if it doesn't all come across!
>
> Perhaps I haven't made my self clear: the MacBook Air is a nice book for
> travel and light use (email, word processing). For more serious work
> (especially when running Windows and intensive Applications like Photoshop
> or Access, you will want the MacBook, or MacBook Pro for the extra RAM
> they
> can have and also the more powerful processors.
I hear you and I'll try to convince him to take it back.
>
> I wouldn't have a MacBook Air unless it was a gift. Even then, I'd Ebay it
> and get a MacBook or MacBook Pro.
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:31 am
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On 3/19/08 9:31 PM, in article m0kEj.6877$i54.3456@trnddc05, "Tom"
<yahoo.TakeThisOut@earthlink.com> wrote:
>
> "Brian Paul Ehni" <behni.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:C4072F9F.A565C%behni@comcast.net...
>>>> He needs to run Microsoft Access db application what is the
>>>> preferred
>>> method of doing this on the AirBook?
>>
>> Either run Boot Camp and reboot to Windows XP, or, as I prefer, install
>> Parallels, then Windows XP for MacOS to Windows OS drag and drop. Either
>> way, you will need Office as well; Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom,
>> does
>> not offer Access as part of the Mac Office Suite. There's also
>> FileMakerPro
>> - a DB program that is cross-platform!
>
> He doesn't need to manipulate the data just view it. Do you think
> FileMakerPro is the way to go?
FileMakerPro may not be able to open Access databases...
>>
>>> He needs to expand the number of USB port what do you suggest.?
>>
>> The only way to expand the number of ports on that book is to use a USB
>> hub,
>> which means you can't also use the USB optical drive (as it requires more
>> power than standard).
>
> Should he get a powered USB hub? Any recommendations?
As I understand it, the Apple USB optical drive for the MacBook Air will not
work with any other USB due to the higher power requirements; a powered USB
hub will not help any.
>>
>>> I noticed it took quite awhile to boot up what can we do to speed it
>>> up?
>>
>> Is it a standard hard drive or solid state? Off hand, I can't think of
>> much
>> either way, but the SSD drive boots faster than the regular kind. The 80gb
>> standard drive is 4200rpm, which means it's the slowest speed hard drive
>> out
>> there (the MacBook and MacBook Pro use 5400 or 7200 rpm drives).
>
> Yes, I checked that out slow CPU as well.
>>
>>> Any recommendations for books to learn how to use it and to learn
>>> Macs
>>> in general?
>>
>> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596514129/?CMP=ILC-MMh0me for starters.
>> David Pouge has plenty of good Mac Books on his site.
>>
>>> Any recommendations to enhance the AirBook experience?
>>
>> Unless you just have to have a MacBook Air (the proper name), return it
>> and
>> get a MacBook. Faster processors, up to twice the RAM, up to 4 times the
>> hard drive, built-in optical drive, more than one USB port, a firewire
>> port,
>> and wired ethernet! Sadly, it will cost you at least $300.00 less and be 2
>> pounds heavier, for the same footprint. See a comparison at:
>> <http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nn
>> mm=browse&mco=MTE3MzI&node=home/shop_mac/family/macbook>
>
> I agree and I advisded him not to buy the Air.
Good going!
>>
>> Be sure to copy and paste the whole link if it doesn't all come across!
>>
>> Perhaps I haven't made my self clear: the MacBook Air is a nice book for
>> travel and light use (email, word processing). For more serious work
>> (especially when running Windows and intensive Applications like Photoshop
>> or Access, you will want the MacBook, or MacBook Pro for the extra RAM
>> they
>> can have and also the more powerful processors.
>
> I hear you and I'll try to convince him to take it back.
Ditto!
>>
>> I wouldn't have a MacBook Air unless it was a gift. Even then, I'd Ebay it
>> and get a MacBook or MacBook Pro.
>>
> Thanks again,
>
> Tom
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:36 am
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"Brian Paul Ehni" <behni.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C4073123.A56DF%behni@comcast.net...
> On 3/19/08 9:01 PM, in article C4072F9F.A565C%behni@comcast.net, "Brian
> Paul
> Ehni" <behni.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> See comments below. These are my opinions. YMMV!
>
>
> Oh, and I forgot to add that the MacBook has user-replaceable batteries!
> The
> MacBook Air does not.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:03 am
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"Brian Paul Ehni" <behni RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On 3/19/08 9:31 PM, in article m0kEj.6877$i54.3456@trnddc05, "Tom"
>>
>> He doesn't need to manipulate the data just view it. Do you think
>> FileMakerPro is the way to go?
>
> FileMakerPro may not be able to open Access databases...
>
I'll check in the Access newsgroup.
>>>
>>>> He needs to expand the number of USB port what do you suggest.?
>>>
>>> The only way to expand the number of ports on that book is to use a USB
>>> hub,
>>> which means you can't also use the USB optical drive (as it requires
>>> more
>>> power than standard).
>>
>> Should he get a powered USB hub? Any recommendations?
>
> As I understand it, the Apple USB optical drive for the MacBook Air will
> not
> work with any other USB due to the higher power requirements; a powered
> USB
> hub will not help any.
The optical drive aside is there any reason to buy a powered USB hub?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:48 pm
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On 3/19/08 10:03 PM, in article zukEj.6881$i54.3543@trnddc05, "Tom"
<yahoo RemoveThis @earthlink.com> wrote:
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> "Brian Paul Ehni" <behni RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:C4073CF1.A56F3%behni@comcast.net...
>> On 3/19/08 9:31 PM, in article m0kEj.6877$i54.3456@trnddc05, "Tom"
>>>
>>> He doesn't need to manipulate the data just view it. Do you think
>>> FileMakerPro is the way to go?
>>
>> FileMakerPro may not be able to open Access databases...
>>
>
> I'll check in the Access newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>> He needs to expand the number of USB port what do you suggest.?
>>>>
>>>> The only way to expand the number of ports on that book is to use a USB
>>>> hub,
>>>> which means you can't also use the USB optical drive (as it requires
>>>> more
>>>> power than standard).
>>>
>>> Should he get a powered USB hub? Any recommendations?
>>
>> As I understand it, the Apple USB optical drive for the MacBook Air will
>> not
>> work with any other USB due to the higher power requirements; a powered
>> USB
>> hub will not help any.
>
> The optical drive aside is there any reason to buy a powered USB hub?
>>
> Tom
>
>
Only for USB devices that consume power (hard drives, some thumb drives,
etc.)
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:49 pm
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"Tom" <yahoo.TakeThisOut@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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> "Brian Paul Ehni" <behni.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:C4072F9F.A565C%behni@comcast.net...
>>>> He needs to run Microsoft Access db application what is the
>>>> preferred
>>> method of doing this on the AirBook?
>>
>> Either run Boot Camp and reboot to Windows XP, or, as I prefer, install
>> Parallels, then Windows XP for MacOS to Windows OS drag and drop. Either
>> way, you will need Office as well; Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom,
>> does
>> not offer Access as part of the Mac Office Suite. There's also
>> FileMakerPro
>> - a DB program that is cross-platform!
Tell me more about Parallels please.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:49 pm
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On 3/22/08 6:49 PM, in article hWgFj.643$Qv5.543@trnddc03, "Tom"
<yahoo RemoveThis @earthlink.com> wrote:
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> "Tom" <yahoo RemoveThis @earthlink.com> wrote in message
> news:m0kEj.6877$i54.3456@trnddc05...
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>> "Brian Paul Ehni" <behni RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:C4072F9F.A565C%behni@comcast.net...
>>>>> He needs to run Microsoft Access db application what is the
>>>>> preferred
>>>> method of doing this on the AirBook?
>>>
>>> Either run Boot Camp and reboot to Windows XP, or, as I prefer, install
>>> Parallels, then Windows XP for MacOS to Windows OS drag and drop. Either
>>> way, you will need Office as well; Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom,
>>> does
>>> not offer Access as part of the Mac Office Suite. There's also
>>> FileMakerPro
>>> - a DB program that is cross-platform!
>
> Tell me more about Parallels please.
>
> Tom
>
>
It's a third-party program for running Windows or other non-Apple OS as if
it were an application. If you are familiar at all with the Microsoft
"Virtual PC" (formerly Connectix), it's the same thing, except Parallels is
much faster than Parallels ever was, because it doesn't have to emulate the
Intel processor architecture; you're already running on it. It's great for
those apps for which there is just no Mac analogue.
http://www.parallels.com/
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:31 am
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"Brian Paul Ehni" <behni RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On 3/22/08 6:49 PM, in article hWgFj.643$Qv5.543@trnddc03, "Tom"
> <yahoo RemoveThis @earthlink.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Tom" <yahoo RemoveThis @earthlink.com> wrote in message
>> news:m0kEj.6877$i54.3456@trnddc05...
>>>
>>> "Brian Paul Ehni" <behni RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:C4072F9F.A565C%behni@comcast.net...
>>>>>> He needs to run Microsoft Access db application what is the
>>>>>> preferred
>>>>> method of doing this on the AirBook?
>>>>
>>>> Either run Boot Camp and reboot to Windows XP, or, as I prefer, install
>>>> Parallels, then Windows XP for MacOS to Windows OS drag and drop.
>>>> Either
>>>> way, you will need Office as well; Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom,
>>>> does
>>>> not offer Access as part of the Mac Office Suite. There's also
>>>> FileMakerPro
>>>> - a DB program that is cross-platform!
>>
>> Tell me more about Parallels please.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
> It's a third-party program for running Windows or other non-Apple OS as if
> it were an application. If you are familiar at all with the Microsoft
> "Virtual PC" (formerly Connectix), it's the same thing, except Parallels
> is
> much faster than Parallels ever was, because it doesn't have to emulate
> the
> Intel processor architecture; you're already running on it. It's great for
> those apps for which there is just no Mac analogue.
>
> http://www.parallels.com/
>
I'm not familar w/ vitur\aul pc onlt remote desktop. It runs with the MAc
OS so no rebnoot is needed?
I'm check out the link.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm
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In article <uakFj.1465$vD1.769@trndny09>,
"Tom" <yahoo.DeleteThis@earthlink.com> wrote:
> "Brian Paul Ehni" <behni.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:C40B2909.A5E62%behni@comcast.net...
> > On 3/22/08 6:49 PM, in article hWgFj.643$Qv5.543@trnddc03, "Tom"
> > <yahoo.DeleteThis@earthlink.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Tom" <yahoo.DeleteThis@earthlink.com> wrote in message
> >> news:m0kEj.6877$i54.3456@trnddc05...
> >>>
> >>> "Brian Paul Ehni" <behni.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:C4072F9F.A565C%behni@comcast.net...
> >>>>>> He needs to run Microsoft Access db application what is the
> >>>>>> preferred
> >>>>> method of doing this on the AirBook?
> >>>>
> >>>> Either run Boot Camp and reboot to Windows XP, or, as I prefer, install
> >>>> Parallels, then Windows XP for MacOS to Windows OS drag and drop.
> >>>> Either
> >>>> way, you will need Office as well; Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom,
> >>>> does
> >>>> not offer Access as part of the Mac Office Suite. There's also
> >>>> FileMakerPro
> >>>> - a DB program that is cross-platform!
> >>
> >> Tell me more about Parallels please.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> > It's a third-party program for running Windows or other non-Apple OS as if
> > it were an application. If you are familiar at all with the Microsoft
> > "Virtual PC" (formerly Connectix), it's the same thing, except Parallels
> > is
> > much faster than Parallels ever was, because it doesn't have to emulate
> > the
> > Intel processor architecture; you're already running on it. It's great for
> > those apps for which there is just no Mac analogue.
> >
> > http://www.parallels.com/
> >
> I'm not familar w/ vitur\aul pc onlt remote desktop. It runs with the MAc
> OS so no rebnoot is needed?
> I'm check out the link.
> Thanks
>
> Tom
Yes Parallels, as well as VMware Fusion, do not require a reboot
in order to use Windows (or Linux). You do need to provide your
own copy of Windows.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:07 pm
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On 3/23/08 1:07 PM, in article
nospam.News.Bob-E22077.14071123032008.TakeThisOut@news.verizon.net, "Bob Harris"
<nospam.News.Bob.TakeThisOut@remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:
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> Yes Parallels, as well as VMware Fusion, do not require a reboot
> in order to use Windows (or Linux). You do need to provide your
> own copy of Windows.
>
> Bob Harris
Same for Boot Camp, too.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:07 am
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In article <C40C3315.A6044%behni@comcast.net>,
Brian Paul Ehni <behni.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/23/08 1:07 PM, in article
> nospam.News.Bob-E22077.14071123032008.RemoveThis@news.verizon.net, "Bob Harris"
> <nospam.News.Bob.RemoveThis@remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:
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> >
> > Yes Parallels, as well as VMware Fusion, do not require a reboot
> > in order to use Windows (or Linux). You do need to provide your
> > own copy of Windows.
> >
> > Bob Harris
>
> Same for Boot Camp, too.
Sorry, but how do you not reboot to use Windows installed via Boot
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:07 am
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On 3/23/08 9:07 PM, in article
nospam.News.Bob-6F43E5.22075723032008.DeleteThis@news.verizon.net, "Bob Harris"
<nospam.News.Bob.DeleteThis@remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:
> In article <C40C3315.A6044%behni@comcast.net>,
> Brian Paul Ehni <behni.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/23/08 1:07 PM, in article
>> nospam.News.Bob-E22077.14071123032008.DeleteThis@news.verizon.net, "Bob Harris"
>> <nospam.News.Bob.DeleteThis@remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Yes Parallels, as well as VMware Fusion, do not require a reboot
>>> in order to use Windows (or Linux). You do need to provide your
>>> own copy of Windows.
>>>
>>> Bob Harris
>>
>> Same for Boot Camp, too.
>
> Sorry, but how do you not reboot to use Windows installed via Boot
> Camp?
>
> Bob Harris
My comment was that you will need a copy of Windows for Boot Camp, too.
Of course you have to reboot to change OS' if you're using Boot Camp; that's
why Parallels and Fusion are the preferred method.
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