[ANN] MT-NewsWatcher F3.5.3b3

In article <calvin-D4EF4D.17504711072008.DeleteThis@news.goldengate.net>,
Calvin <calvin.DeleteThis@microsoft.com> wrote:

> In article <060720081107177663%Kuypers@sri.ucl.ac.invalid>,
> "J.P. Kuypers" <Kuypers.DeleteThis@sri.ucl.ac.invalid> wrote:
>
> > The French.lproj folder, F3.5.3b3, for MT-NewsWatcher is now available
> > at <ftp://ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be/pub/News/MTNewsWatcher/>.
> >
> > And maybe soon on one of the mirrors :
> >
> > <ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/Mac/UCL/>
> > <ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be/pub/>
> >
> > MT-NewsWatcher is a Usenet news client for the Macintosh.
> > MT-NewsWatcher allows you to quickly and efficiently target the
> > articles you wish to read, with sophisticated yet easy to use
> > filtering, searching and sorting features. The program also makes
> > viewing and saving binaries from newsgroups easy, and works
> > transparently across multiple news servers.
>
> new US version too???

MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3b3 has been out for quite some time now.

(J.P. Kuypers seems to prefer to create and distribute French-only
MT-NewsWatcher resources himself, posting about them here, rather than
simply working with Simon to include French localization in the real
MT-NewsWatcher releases. Personally, I think it's causing unnecessary
confusion, and disconnect with the real MT-NewsWatcher project. I don't
quite understand the motivation - maybe J.P. thinks he'll get more
credit this way.)

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In article <michelle-18F129.20160911072008.TakeThisOut@news.east.cox.net>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle.TakeThisOut@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-865ABB.19124811072008.TakeThisOut@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger.TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > (J.P. Kuypers seems to prefer to create and distribute French-only
> > MT-NewsWatcher resources himself, posting about them here, rather
> > than simply working with Simon to include French localization in the
> > real MT-NewsWatcher releases. Personally, I think it's causing
> > unnecessary confusion, and disconnect with the real MT-NewsWatcher
> > project. I don't quite understand the motivation - maybe J.P. thinks
> > he'll get more credit this way.)
>
> He provides French versions of quite a number of products, not just MTNW.
>
> Maybe he has Simon's consent to do it for MTNW.

Consent or not, distributing a small localized piece of an application
bundle seems strange to me when he could simply give the localized piece
to the application author to include in the next update. Certainly there
are many users who wouldn't know what to do with the piece by itself.
And posting about it here is borderline spamming IMO. This is the kind
of thing sites like versiontracker and macupdate are for - these news
groups are visited by mostly English-speaking folks.

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In article <jollyroger-119899.05531912072008.RemoveThis@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger.RemoveThis@pobox.com> wrote:

> Consent or not, distributing a small localized piece of an application
> bundle seems strange to me when he could simply give the localized piece
> to the application author to include in the next update. Certainly there
> are many users who wouldn't know what to do with the piece by itself.
> And posting about it here is borderline spamming IMO. This is the kind
> of thing sites like versiontracker and macupdate are for - these news
> groups are visited by mostly English-speaking folks.

I'm waiting for a version in Gaelic-Serbo-Kanji(Big5).
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In article <jollyroger-119899.05531912072008 RemoveThis @news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger RemoveThis @pobox.com> wrote:

[...]

> these news
> groups are visited by mostly English-speaking folks.

Just because people speak english *here* doesn't mean they don't prefer
some other language in some other context.

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In article <user-11048C.15351012072008 RemoveThis @textnews.euro.net>,
Sander Tekelenburg <user RemoveThis @domain.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-119899.05531912072008 RemoveThis @news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger RemoveThis @pobox.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > these news
> > groups are visited by mostly English-speaking folks.
>
> Just because people speak english *here* doesn't mean they don't prefer
> some other language in some other context.

It's still borderline spamming IMO.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger.TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote:

> It's still borderline spamming IMO.

Geez, JR, he's been providing this free service and announcing it here
for _YEARS_! You are literally the only person I've ever seen complain
about it. Lighten, up, dude! It's not as if he's announcing his
Viennese waltz video in his signature or anything like that.

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In article <1ijytw6.hzfyhs3loobmN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST.RemoveThis@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger.RemoveThis@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > It's still borderline spamming IMO.
>
> Geez, JR, he's been providing this free service and announcing it here
> for _YEARS_! You are literally the only person I've ever seen complain
> about it. Lighten, up, dude! It's not as if he's announcing his
> Viennese waltz video in his signature or anything like that.

I think if you look back you'll see the only reason I commented to begin
with was because Calvin replied (obviously confused by J.P.'s
announcement, BTW) apparently asking if there was a US version of
MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3b. I (hopefully) ended his confusion by explaining
J.P.'s post.

I'm not really sure how I might lighten up about it when I'm not all
that upset about it to begin with. In fact, I filter J.P.'s
announcements, so I mostly don't see them. This is an exception.

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger.TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote:

> I think if you look back you'll see the only reason I commented to begin
> with was because Calvin replied (obviously confused by J.P.'s
> announcement, BTW) apparently asking if there was a US version of
> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3b. I (hopefully) ended his confusion by explaining
> J.P.'s post.
>
> I'm not really sure how I might lighten up about it when I'm not all
> that upset about it to begin with.

Heck, you seemed pretty critical of J.P. to me. Under other
circumstances, I would have expected you to ask Calvin why he didn't
just look at Simon's site in the first place.

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In article <1ijz0fe.mwsscgczdisN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST.RemoveThis@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger.RemoveThis@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > I think if you look back you'll see the only reason I commented to begin
> > with was because Calvin replied (obviously confused by J.P.'s
> > announcement, BTW) apparently asking if there was a US version of
> > MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3b. I (hopefully) ended his confusion by explaining
> > J.P.'s post.
> >
> > I'm not really sure how I might lighten up about it when I'm not all
> > that upset about it to begin with.
>
> Heck, you seemed pretty critical of J.P. to me.

I think I'm more curious than critical; but I suppose I'm somewhat
critical as well. I mean I did have to go through the trouble of
filtering him out and all...

> Under other
> circumstances, I would have expected you to ask Calvin why he didn't
> just look at Simon's site in the first place.

Yes, Calvin - do that. : )

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger.RemoveThis@pobox.com> wrote:

> > Heck, you seemed pretty critical of J.P. to me.
>
> I think I'm more curious than critical; but I suppose I'm somewhat
> critical as well. I mean I did have to go through the trouble of
> filtering him out and all...

The thing is, I've been reading the c.s.m. groups for some 14 years now,
and for as long as I can remember he's been doing French localizations
of Mac communications programs and announcing them here, with [ANN] in
the subject line. He's part of the scenery for me. Time was when people
would joke that he was so fast in getting the French versions out, he
would sometimes do it before the English-language version was even
available. He does, BTW, also post these announcements to
fr.comp.sys.mac.annonces.

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In article <1ijz3pd.ewxj6g1gzz6sdN%mikePOST@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST RemoveThis @TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger RemoveThis @pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > Heck, you seemed pretty critical of J.P. to me.
> >
> > I think I'm more curious than critical; but I suppose I'm somewhat
> > critical as well. I mean I did have to go through the trouble of
> > filtering him out and all...
>
> The thing is, I've been reading the c.s.m. groups for some 14 years now,
> and for as long as I can remember he's been doing French localizations
> of Mac communications programs and announcing them here, with [ANN] in
> the subject line. He's part of the scenery for me. Time was when people
> would joke that he was so fast in getting the French versions out, he
> would sometimes do it before the English-language version was even
> available.

Heh... I see. I suppose I just hadn't noticed him until lately - for
whatever reason. Like I said, I've got them filtered now; so they won't
bother me.

> He does, BTW, also post these announcements to
> fr.comp.sys.mac.annonces.

That seems like a more appropriate place to me. Just my opinion - I'm
not starting a war over it or anything.

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