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Since: Mar 25, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:41 am
Post subject: .login and .cshrc questions
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Hi,
I have two questions:
1. How do I differ in what I put in my .login and .cshrc files?
AFAIK .login is called when I login to my system once and .cshrc is
called each time I open a new shell window. Right? Do you have any
examples?
2. I need a deamon to be started at login. But before starting it I
need to provide my password to it. How can I accomplish this so I will
not forget? Today I have to start the deamon each time I reboot ( easy
to forget).
br,
//mike |
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Since: Jul 23, 2009
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:25 am
Post subject: Re: .login and .cshrc questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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mike wrote:
> How do I differ in what I put in my .login and .cshrc files?
> AFAIK .login is called when I login to my system once and .cshrc is
> called each time I open a new shell window. Right? Do you have any
> examples?
Essentially, .cshrc is for things you will need in ALL open shells,
windows (Terminal/konsole etc). Normally all of your aliases and
environment setting go in there.
The .login file is ONLY for things you want in a login shell
(like notification of quota, special settings) and is often (almost)
empty. You don't have to duplicate (UNlike bash) anything which is
already in the .cshrc as a C-shell first sources .cshrc and then,
only when it IS a login shell, does the .login (and when it exits,
the .logout) script.
Starting specific daemons for the user session thus is a task for .login.
This is my .login
alias bye 'clear;logout'
if ( $OSTYPE == linux ) then
alias x 'startx >>& ~/.startx.log'
biff n
if ( -x /usr/games/fortune ) /usr/games/fortune
else
if ( -x /usr/local/tabin/fortune ) fortune
endif
(which contains left-overs from the time I used the same home dir for
Linux _and_ for HP-UX unix, that's why the if is there).
Our installation had fortune cookies DISabled, but I like them,
so at login I try to run that program.
And the alias "bye" uses logout, which is a command only supported
by a login shell.
My .cshrc file - on the other hand - is very long and complicated -
I'm not going to show that here.
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Eef Hartman, Delft University of Technology, dept. SSC/ICT |
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Since: Mar 29, 2005
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:25 pm
Post subject: Re: .login and .cshrc questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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mike <mikaelpetterson RemoveThis @hotmail.com> writes:
>Hi,
>I have two questions:
>1. How do I differ in what I put in my .login and .cshrc files?
>AFAIK .login is called when I login to my system once and .cshrc is
>called each time I open a new shell window. Right? Do you have any
>examples?
>2. I need a deamon to be started at login. But before starting it I
>need to provide my password to it. How can I accomplish this so I will
>not forget? Today I have to start the deamon each time I reboot ( easy
>to forget).
You already provided your password to log in. Why provide it again to
run the daemon?
>br,
>//mike |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:25 pm
Post subject: Re: .login and .cshrc questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman.DeleteThis@tudelft.nl> writes:
>mike wrote:
>> How do I differ in what I put in my .login and .cshrc files?
>> AFAIK .login is called when I login to my system once and .cshrc is
>> called each time I open a new shell window. Right? Do you have any
>> examples?
>Essentially, .cshrc is for things you will need in ALL open shells,
>windows (Terminal/konsole etc). Normally all of your aliases and
>environment setting go in there.
>The .login file is ONLY for things you want in a login shell
>(like notification of quota, special settings) and is often (almost)
>empty. You don't have to duplicate (UNlike bash) anything which is
source .bashrc
in the .bash_profile
Was that so hard.
And that allows you to decide if .bashrc is run first, last or inbetween.
>already in the .cshrc as a C-shell first sources .cshrc and then,
>only when it IS a login shell, does the .login (and when it exits,
>the .logout) script.
>Starting specific daemons for the user session thus is a task for .login.
>This is my .login
>alias bye 'clear;logout'
>if ( $OSTYPE == linux ) then
> alias x 'startx >>& ~/.startx.log'
> biff n
> if ( -x /usr/games/fortune ) /usr/games/fortune
>else
> if ( -x /usr/local/tabin/fortune ) fortune
>endif
>(which contains left-overs from the time I used the same home dir for
>Linux _and_ for HP-UX unix, that's why the if is there).
>Our installation had fortune cookies DISabled, but I like them,
>so at login I try to run that program.
>And the alias "bye" uses logout, which is a command only supported
>by a login shell.
>My .cshrc file - on the other hand - is very long and complicated -
>I'm not going to show that here.
>--
>Eef Hartman, Delft University of Technology, dept. SSC/ICT |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:25 am
Post subject: Re: .login and .cshrc questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Unruh wrote:
> source .bashrc
> in the .bash_profile
> Was that so hard.
> And that allows you to decide if .bashrc is run first, last or inbetween.
Actually, in openSUSE, /etc/profile already does this for you:
if test "$is" = "bash" -a -z "$_HOMEBASHRC" ; then
# loop detection
readonly _HOMEBASHRC=true
test -r $HOME/.bashrc && . $HOME/.bashrc
fi
(the variable _HOMEBASHRC is to prevent it being run twice),
so - in openSUSE - you don't have to include the above "source" command
in your own profile.
I was talking generic bash, not all users will know about this openSUSE
modification to make bash behave like csh
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Eef Hartman, Delft University of Technology, dept. SSC/ICT |
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