[gentoo-user] Thanks and bye for now

Nikos Chantziaras <realnc <at> arcor.de> writes:


> > set PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 in /etc/make.conf

> I'll just hay "ah, ah, ah" at that one OK, I'll also say that it
> doesn't work. Everything lags even with 19.


OK then 'renice' the game and other critical software to somewhere between
-1 and -5.....



There many other tricks to keep critical resources running smoothly,
depending on a variety of details.....


James

On 20:31 Sat 27 Dec , Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>>> Another reason I
>>>>> didn't put Gentoo on the server is because everyone would start
>>>>> spamming
>>>>> the forums about lag when I emerge -u world while they're getting frags
>>>>> in Counter-Strike
>>>> set PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 in /etc/make.conf
>>> I'll just hay "ah, ah, ah" at that one OK, I'll also say that it
>>> doesn't work. Everything lags even with 19.
>> Is that measurable?
>
> On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
> skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core E6600.RemoveThis@3.33Ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
>
Interesting, i have the niceness set to 19 and i dont feel a thing with
regular stuff that you mention; browser is responsive(i keep many tabs
open at a time) and other simple things are fine. I am on relatively lower
specs: AMD64 X2 2.09Ghz and 2gigs of ram. I hope you are not running some
kind of cpu-throttling program (aka cpufrequtils).

The point is you dont update gcc/glibc/kdelibs/heavyweights everyday. Thats
where the lag should happen(due to disk I/O and not due to todays processors).
As for the smaller packages the effect is negligible wrt the benefits gained.
It is disappointing that even today so much hype is created about compiling.
I mean when i am not emerging the cpu sits idle at (0-3)% , isnt it nice
that we use our multi-core beasts.Obviously for those that run on lower specs
options and workarounds are available.

>
> With all that being said, I prefer Gentoo of course. I've been through
> Debian, Ubuntu, Slackware, Mandriva/Mandrake, CentOS, Fedora and openSUSE
> on my desktop PC. I finally settled with Gentoo; it's beats all of 'em.
> But it needs more attention to keep it healthy and clean. So I don't use it
> for the servers. More free time for me that way
>

A properly configured server by its very nature shouldn't need much tinkering,
regardless what distro you run on it. The choice narrows down to basically the
admins knowhow and the organizations compelling needs. I don't understand why
Gentoo should not be easy to maintain as a server. A server has fewer software
hence fewer updates(ideally only security fixes-- GLSA?). Gentoo provides
magnificent tool eselect (Linux retards should be able to use it!!). So, Gentoo
as a server FTW !!

Regards,
Man Shankar <man.ee.gen(at)gmail.com>

Nikos Chantziaras <realnc <at> arcor.de> writes:


> > Then something is wrong with your box or it isn't powerful enough.

> It isn't.

> > Works perfectly in mine.

> Same here (at home.)



Nikos,

I had a problem with a dual (amd) machine once. I dropped

MAKEOPTS="-j3"
to "-j1"

for a while and the workstation was fine. After some months
I rebuild every thing and it was then fine. to use -j2.

I'd be curious to see how it affect your problem with
-j1 set?


James