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Dominique Michel

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Since: Oct 09, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:00 am
Post subject: [gentoo-dev] Livecd, python, pyopengl and broken gtk installer
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It seam at it is a big problem with the livecd.

From the forum:
QUOTE: The problem is you can't use the GTK installer due to this problem. It
crashes out and leaves you with no option but to wash, rinse, repeat, re-crash.

By saying they won't fix the bug the developers have decided to make the
graphical installer a waste of effort. In my case I went in and installed the
old fashoned way (never HAVE gotten that graphical POS to work), but for anyone
who is trying out Gentoo and hasn't done this a few hundred times before
they're out of luck.

Bad for them, bad for the community, bad for Gentoo, bad for Linux.

Do these guys work in Redmond now? ENDQUOTE

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-477582-start-25.html

From bugzilla:

QUOTE: And we still won't and can't fix it. All the livecd stuff is just a
snapshot of portage tree in a given moment. There's been one use flag, changed
meanwhile -> emerge --sync, re-emerge python and stop ranting here. ENDQUOTE

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147809

I have done a search on bugzilla, and it is other bug report where problems
with the livecd have been fixed, so I just don't understand why this one want
be fixed, and I am just too tired to argue on it. It say all time the same
thing, do a sync and re emerge python. With the livecd?...

So here is the problem: the livecd gtk installer is broken and it must be
fixed. But no one seam to be willing to do so. So, when I read such comments on
the forum, I think at it will be better to remove this livecd from the servers.
It is better to have no publicity as a bad publicity.

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Steev Klimaszewski

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Since: Oct 05, 2006
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:30 am
Post subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Livecd, python, pyopengl and broken gtk installer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dominique Michel wrote:
> It seam at it is a big problem with the livecd.
>
>>From the forum:
> QUOTE: The problem is you can't use the GTK installer due to this problem. It
> crashes out and leaves you with no option but to wash, rinse, repeat, re-crash.
>
> By saying they won't fix the bug the developers have decided to make the
> graphical installer a waste of effort. In my case I went in and installed the
> old fashoned way (never HAVE gotten that graphical POS to work), but for anyone
> who is trying out Gentoo and hasn't done this a few hundred times before
> they're out of luck.
>
> Bad for them, bad for the community, bad for Gentoo, bad for Linux.
>
> Do these guys work in Redmond now? ENDQUOTE
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-477582-start-25.html
>
>>From bugzilla:
>
> QUOTE: And we still won't and can't fix it. All the livecd stuff is just a
> snapshot of portage tree in a given moment. There's been one use flag, changed
> meanwhile -> emerge --sync, re-emerge python and stop ranting here. ENDQUOTE
>
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147809
>
> I have done a search on bugzilla, and it is other bug report where problems
> with the livecd have been fixed, so I just don't understand why this one want
> be fixed, and I am just too tired to argue on it. It say all time the same
> thing, do a sync and re emerge python. With the livecd?...
>
> So here is the problem: the livecd gtk installer is broken and it must be
> fixed. But no one seam to be willing to do so. So, when I read such comments on
> the forum, I think at it will be better to remove this livecd from the servers.
> It is better to have no publicity as a bad publicity.
>
The gtk installer is NOT broken. Have you tried to install without the
tk/tcl/tcltk use flag? Personally, I installed with the default flags
set, in fact, I told it networkless install and was up and running in
about 40 minutes (366MHz) - The installer works, but not every single
USE flag combination can be tested. You can *always* change a flag
after you have the system installed.
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