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rafe

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:52 pm
Post subject: Re: trying to add openSuse 10.3 to this OS/2 box [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Feb 18, 10:40 pm, tinker....TakeThisOut@no.net wrote:

> Bailing out before I get OS2 nostalgic all over!

hey, you can still buy eCS

I'm back up all over. stickthat's suggestion for Ranish reminded me
of Veit Kanngiesser's Vpart, which I used for a long time to boot Suse
9.0 on my other box. I installed it, which got my Suse bootable --
went in & reset the bootloader into /boot, CD-booted to OS/2 to fdisk /
mbr to clear out Vpart, and now I'm all good. thanks all.
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Steven Levine

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:19 pm
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In <d6e477d6-0ce8-4714-83b2-2e34626efa88 DeleteThis @s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, on
02/18/2008
at 04:11 PM, rafe <rayyfieldster DeleteThis @gmail.com> said:

Hi,

>thanks, Steven. pardon a couple more questions, I'm still a bit
>confused.

>since I'm not able to boot Suse at the moment, I guess I can do as you
>suggest by booting the CD and choosing repair installation? then add
>Grub to the MBR, then run Suse from the HD and using Yast again, install
>Grub to /boot?

Repair install may allow you to install GRUB to /boot.

Whatever you do you need to make sure that the MBR that is saved is the
one you want to restore want YAST to restore to the MBR. That said, it
may not matter since you can always use standard eCS/OS2 tools to write a
BM compatible MBR once you have GRUB in /boot.

>it's not much of a defense, perhaps, but one reason I let Suse have its
>way was because Boot Manager can't boot Linux where it is, so I need for
>it to take precedence over BM.

That's actually a pretty good reason to let GRUB boot BM. Since you have
chosen to use older OS/2 components, you have fewer options.

Steven

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Barnacle Bill the Sailor

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:12 am
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rafe wrote:
> On Feb 18, 10:40 pm, tinker....RemoveThis@no.net wrote:
>
>> Bailing out before I get OS2 nostalgic all over!
>
> hey, you can still buy eCS
>
> I'm back up all over. stickthat's suggestion for Ranish reminded me
> of Veit Kanngiesser's Vpart, which I used for a long time to boot Suse
> 9.0 on my other box. I installed it, which got my Suse bootable --
> went in & reset the bootloader into /boot, CD-booted to OS/2 to fdisk /
> mbr to clear out Vpart, and now I'm all good. thanks all.
>


I wished I had given OS2 warp a spin before it hit the dustbin! I guess
it's legacyware now.
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William L. Hartzell

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:27 pm
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Sir:

Barnacle Bill the Sailor wrote:
> rafe wrote:
>> On Feb 18, 10:40 pm, tinker... DeleteThis @no.net wrote:
>>
>>> Bailing out before I get OS2 nostalgic all over!
>> hey, you can still buy eCS
>>
>> I'm back up all over. stickthat's suggestion for Ranish reminded me
>> of Veit Kanngiesser's Vpart, which I used for a long time to boot Suse
>> 9.0 on my other box. I installed it, which got my Suse bootable --
>> went in & reset the bootloader into /boot, CD-booted to OS/2 to fdisk /
>> mbr to clear out Vpart, and now I'm all good. thanks all.
>>
>
>
> I wished I had given OS2 warp a spin before it hit the dustbin! I guess
> it's legacyware now.
You still can buy eCS, an OEM version of the last version of OS/2, plus
many fixes for newer hardware. Get envious of the Desktop that KDE will
never duplicate. Sigh, need to cross post to advocacy?
--
Bill
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Mentore Siesto

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:45 pm
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Archived from groups: comp>os>os2>setup>misc, others (more info?)

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:02:51 UTC, rafe <rayyfieldster.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Feb 17, 10:53 am, mentore.sie....DeleteThis@libero.it (Mentore Siesto) wrote:
>
> > First of all I used LVM from eCS 2 RC3 install program to create my
> > partition structure (circa 9 partitions/volumes), which includes one
> > volume for Windows XP (still don't have it, but just in case), two for
> > eCS (Italian and English versions), one for Solaris 10 (thanks Sun)
> > and another for a Linux flavor: choose OpenSuse, but seems it's not a
> > really itty-bitty good idea (seems to lack GCC: I tried to launch
> > "make" and received an error! Boh?)
>
> no LVM here. what confuses me also is that OS/2's and Linux's LVM are
> not the same -- in any case unless it's really necessary, I'd just as
> soon not start up with it.

Yes, there are differences between the two LVM (damn IBM, will they
ever make something right other than OS/2?). I suggest you to go the
LVM way, it's way better than using the old fdisk.

> just one question: does Suse recognize your HPFS partitions out of the
> box?

Yes it does. And oh, btw I found why I lack GCC: my Suse distro comes
from a Linux fan magazine, it's a desktop distro only. Bad news,
though: what use is a Un*ix without development tools? Sad

Mentore
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Richard Budd

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:22 pm
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William L. Hartzell wrote:
> Sir:
>
> rafe wrote:
>> On Feb 17, 10:53 am, mentore.sie... DeleteThis @libero.it (Mentore Siesto) wrote:
>>
>>> First of all I used LVM from eCS 2 RC3 install program to create my
>>> partition structure (circa 9 partitions/volumes), which includes one
>>> volume for Windows XP (still don't have it, but just in case), two for
>>> eCS (Italian and English versions), one for Solaris 10 (thanks Sun)
>>> and another for a Linux flavor: choose OpenSuse, but seems it's not a
>>> really itty-bitty good idea (seems to lack GCC: I tried to launch
>>> "make" and received an error! Boh?)
>> no LVM here. what confuses me also is that OS/2's and Linux's LVM are
>> not the same -- in any case unless it's really necessary, I'd just as
>> soon not start up with it.
>>
>> just one question: does Suse recognize your HPFS partitions out of the
>> box?
>>
>
> It, Suse 10.3, recognized only those volumes that were single partition
> below some magic limit, 1024 cylinders? Since I had only one HPFS
> partition that met that qualification, that was the only one available
> to be mounted (it recognized the partitions of multipartition volumes,
> but of course, not as volumes, which made them unreadable.). So, yes, I
> did nothing to get HPFS recognized. BTW, it will install if there are
> more than 15 partition existing. It offers to ignore the excess. You
> can chose to install the development package and get Gcc.

How does SUSE or for that matter, any other 'UX do with rather large JFS volumes
made under OS/2? I set them up as the 4096 block size that's recommended, just
haven't had the time to try any LINUX distro's yet.
TTFN!
-Rich
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William L. Hartzell

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:22 pm
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Sir:

Richard Budd wrote:
> William L. Hartzell wrote:
>> Sir:
>>
>> rafe wrote:
>>> On Feb 17, 10:53 am, mentore.sie....RemoveThis@libero.it (Mentore Siesto) wrote:
>>>
>>>> First of all I used LVM from eCS 2 RC3 install program to create my
>>>> partition structure (circa 9 partitions/volumes), which includes one
>>>> volume for Windows XP (still don't have it, but just in case), two for
>>>> eCS (Italian and English versions), one for Solaris 10 (thanks Sun)
>>>> and another for a Linux flavor: choose OpenSuse, but seems it's not a
>>>> really itty-bitty good idea (seems to lack GCC: I tried to launch
>>>> "make" and received an error! Boh?)
>>> no LVM here. what confuses me also is that OS/2's and Linux's LVM are
>>> not the same -- in any case unless it's really necessary, I'd just as
>>> soon not start up with it.
>>>
>>> just one question: does Suse recognize your HPFS partitions out of the
>>> box?
>>>
>>
>> It, Suse 10.3, recognized only those volumes that were single partition
>> below some magic limit, 1024 cylinders? Since I had only one HPFS
>> partition that met that qualification, that was the only one available
>> to be mounted (it recognized the partitions of multipartition volumes,
>> but of course, not as volumes, which made them unreadable.). So, yes, I
>> did nothing to get HPFS recognized. BTW, it will install if there are
>> more than 15 partition existing. It offers to ignore the excess. You
>> can chose to install the development package and get Gcc.
>
> How does SUSE or for that matter, any other 'UX do with rather large JFS
> volumes made under OS/2? I set them up as the 4096 block size that's
> recommended, just haven't had the time to try any LINUX distro's yet.
> TTFN!
> -Rich
As long as the volume is a single partition, it is as Dave says. Suse
seems to not understand LVM version 1 multi-partition volumes (or I
failed to do something that's required).
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Dave Yeo

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:10 am
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On 03/04/08 12:22 pm, Richard Budd wrote:
[...]
> How does SUSE or for that matter, any other 'UX do with rather large JFS
> volumes made under OS/2? I set them up as the 4096 block size that's
> recommended, just haven't had the time to try any LINUX distro's yet.
> TTFN!
> -Rich

With Ubuntu I had to set permissions (using chmod) on the JFS volume
before I could access it as a normal user.
Dave
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Richard Budd

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:19 pm
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William L. Hartzell wrote:
> Sir:
>
> Richard Budd wrote:
>> William L. Hartzell wrote:
>>> Sir:
>>>
>>> rafe wrote:
>>>> On Feb 17, 10:53 am, mentore.sie... RemoveThis @libero.it (Mentore Siesto) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> First of all I used LVM from eCS 2 RC3 install program to create my
>>>>> partition structure (circa 9 partitions/volumes), which includes one
>>>>> volume for Windows XP (still don't have it, but just in case), two for
>>>>> eCS (Italian and English versions), one for Solaris 10 (thanks Sun)
>>>>> and another for a Linux flavor: choose OpenSuse, but seems it's not a
>>>>> really itty-bitty good idea (seems to lack GCC: I tried to launch
>>>>> "make" and received an error! Boh?)
>>>> no LVM here. what confuses me also is that OS/2's and Linux's LVM are
>>>> not the same -- in any case unless it's really necessary, I'd just as
>>>> soon not start up with it.
>>>>
>>>> just one question: does Suse recognize your HPFS partitions out of the
>>>> box?
>>>>
>>> It, Suse 10.3, recognized only those volumes that were single partition
>>> below some magic limit, 1024 cylinders? Since I had only one HPFS
>>> partition that met that qualification, that was the only one available
>>> to be mounted (it recognized the partitions of multipartition volumes,
>>> but of course, not as volumes, which made them unreadable.). So, yes, I
>>> did nothing to get HPFS recognized. BTW, it will install if there are
>>> more than 15 partition existing. It offers to ignore the excess. You
>>> can chose to install the development package and get Gcc.
>> How does SUSE or for that matter, any other 'UX do with rather large JFS
>> volumes made under OS/2? I set them up as the 4096 block size that's
>> recommended, just haven't had the time to try any LINUX distro's yet.
>> TTFN!
>> -Rich
> As long as the volume is a single partition, it is as Dave says. Suse
> seems to not understand LVM version 1 multi-partition volumes (or I
> failed to do something that's required).

Sounds like I'm all set then as both are single partitions on 1 big drive. Now
to just get the time to play...
Cheers!
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