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Norbert Preining

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:10 am
Post subject: TeXlive for Debian - version 2005.09.15-1 online
Archived from groups: linux>debian>maint>tetex (more info?)

Dear friends!

Current Version: 2005.09.15-1

A new generation of Debian packages of TeX live are available on the tug
server, as usual
http://www.tug.org/texlive/debian.html
and get it at
deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ pool/
deb-src http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ pool/

The binary packages are build in a pbuilder/sid environment (Neil, here
it really worked, I don't understand what happened at you pbuilder!).
So the binary packages are only working for sid, but I hope to make
packages for sarge and etch soon.

As usual, the log files of the creation process are in
http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/log/
The file lintian.log shows that the errors/warnings are getting less.
THe two errors now present are rubbish, lintian is stupid on this.

Other thing:
cm-super (now again distributed half sized)
deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ cm-super/
deb-src http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ cm-super/
texinfo working with tetex 3.0 and texlive:
deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ texinfo/
deb-src http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ texinfo/


Changes since last version
version 2005.09.15-1 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:14:10 +0200

15.09.2005 NP
* New source version, including up to perforce change #8062
* fixed format generation problem
* make descriptions lines not longer than 80 chars

14.09.2005 NP
* add -e to the /bin/sh shebang for error checking in the control scripts
* test for existence of various programs before trying to execute them
this is for the case when a package is removed but not purged, but
the tex-common package is removed, too.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Herzliche Grüße
Best wishes

Norbert

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:00 pm
Post subject: Re: [tex-live] TeXlive for Debian - version 2005.09.15-1 online [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi,

OK, I just installed, so the complaining can start Smile

On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:05:54AM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
> So the binary packages are only working for sid, but I hope to make
> packages for sarge and etch soon.

It would be really cool to get the packages into Debian
(experimental or unstable), so that we can start to use the BTS
instead of informal mails to track problems. We could also
start to file bugs against other packages, e.g. if a package
depends on tetex, but should depend on tetex|texlive. Without
officially Debianised packages, this is not possible. We have
only 471 days until etch release, a revelation told me.

> As usual, the log files of the creation process are in
> http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/log/
> The file lintian.log shows that the errors/warnings are getting less.
> THe two errors now present are rubbish, lintian is stupid on this.

As I have still installation problems (e.g. tex-common has to be
installed before texlive-*, missing Pre-Depends?, some packages
installed cleanly only on second try), I recommend to try out
piuparts, additionally to both lintian and linda. piuparts
should find this kind of problems.

Other remarks:

1. When compiling LaTeX files, I get some alarming messages:

/usr/bin/mktexpk: line 141: gsftopk: command not found

and:

/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexupd: /var/cache/fonts/ls-R unwritable.

and:

kpathsea: Running mktexmf nullfont
! I can't find file `nullfont'.
....
grep: nullfont.log: No such file or directory

Help!

2. texlive contains - of course - a lot of stuff that is already
in Debian, not only tetex, but things like jadetex etc. Such
duplication is inevitable, but should be reduced as much as
possible. Having source twice in Debian means, that bugs need
to be fixed two times. Worse, if there is a security bug, our
already hard working security teams have to create multiple
fixes for the same problem. So: At least if there is no or only
a small difference between the present Debian package and a
texlive package, the latter (or the former) should be abolished.

So much for complaining, now a big THANKS for your effort!

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:20 pm
Post subject: Re: [tex-live] TeXlive for Debian - version 2005.09.15-1 online [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Wolfgang! Hi all!

On Fre, 16 Sep 2005, W. Borgert wrote:
> OK, I just installed, so the complaining can start Smile

You are welcome, btw, we could also start using the BTS on alioth, I
just got pkg-texlive approved:
https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-texlive/
So you are welcome to use it Wink

> It would be really cool to get the packages into Debian
> (experimental or unstable), so that we can start to use the BTS

A mentor Neil is already working on reviewing the packages.
Interestingly there was a problem in his pbuilder/sid and he couldn't
build the packages (binaries), while in my pbuilder/sid it did work.
But we are working on it.

> depends on tetex, but should depend on tetex|texlive. Without

This is a good reason, we are doing what we can.

> As I have still installation problems (e.g. tex-common has to be
> installed before texlive-*, missing Pre-Depends?, some packages

Strange, very strange.

I purged *ALL* texlive and tex-common packages, and then removed all the
left overs (there are still some), then I called
apt-get install texlive-latexrecommended texlive-fontsrecommended
and everything installed cleanly in my sid-chroot.

> installed cleanly only on second try), I recommend to try out
> piuparts, additionally to both lintian and linda. piuparts
> should find this kind of problems.

I will check out piuparts, too.

> /usr/bin/mktexpk: line 141: gsftopk: command not found

Hmm, will look into it.

> /usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexupd: /var/cache/fonts/ls-R unwritable.

I know about this, I have to check what is the best option.
But as the ls-R and /var/cache/fonts directories are now created by
tex-common in fact it is a problem of tex-common where we have to make
the change. It was in tetex the debconf question.

> kpathsea: Running mktexmf nullfont
> ! I can't find file `nullfont'.
> ...
> grep: nullfont.log: No such file or directory

Humpf. No idea. Could you please provide a list of what you installed
and a test case?

> 2. texlive contains - of course - a lot of stuff that is already
> in Debian, not only tetex, but things like jadetex etc. Such
> duplication is inevitable, but should be reduced as much as
> possible. Having source twice in Debian means, that bugs need

My policy is to leave out only those things which are already packaged
for Debian and provide a more complete installation. Example: cm-super
in TeXlive is (was) not fully complete, thus the cm-super package.
Otherwise I will have to check on the other packages being compatible
and uptodate.

> fixes for the same problem. So: At least if there is no or only
> a small difference between the present Debian package and a
> texlive package, the latter (or the former) should be abolished.

The problem is that the former normally only forms a part of a larger
texlive package.

Best wishes

Norbert

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