SATA

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:34:56 -0600, Richard Swanson wrote:

> OK OK
>
> What is the latest on SATA compatibility? It sounds like we're going to
> need a driver for every chipset out there like SCSI.
>
> It would be nice if the kernel would just work like it does with PATA.
>
> I just built a new computer with SATA drives and now I can't find a distro
> that will work. I have an ASUS A7V600 motherboard.
>
> Rich

VIA has SATA drivers for this chipset (VT 8237) on their website

Richard Swanson wrote:
>
> OK OK
>
> What is the latest on SATA compatibility?
> It sounds like we're going to need a driver
> for every chipset out there like SCSI.
>
> It would be nice if the kernel would just
> work like it does with PATA.

PATA requires a driver for every chipset, too. Most distro kernels
include them all, so things "just work". But if you've ever built your
own kernel you've seen the broad range of chipset-specific drivers that
are available. A quick look suggests there's at least a couple dozen
IDE chipset drivers.

John-Paul Stewart wrote:
> Richard Swanson wrote:
>
>>OK OK
>>
>>What is the latest on SATA compatibility?
>>It sounds like we're going to need a driver
>>for every chipset out there like SCSI.
>>
>>It would be nice if the kernel would just
>>work like it does with PATA.
>
>
> PATA requires a driver for every chipset, too. Most distro kernels
> include them all, so things "just work". But if you've ever built your
> own kernel you've seen the broad range of chipset-specific drivers that
> are available. A quick look suggests there's at least a couple dozen
> IDE chipset drivers.

PATA drives are supported "out of the box" so a new kernel is not
nessesary. If I can't install linux in the first place, how can I
rebuild a kernel?

Thanks
Richard

"Richard Swanson" <rich.RemoveThis@richandcheryl.com> wrote in message
news:j%9Cb.502$5Q6.333@okepread04...
> John-Paul Stewart wrote:
> > Richard Swanson wrote:
> >
> >>OK OK
> >>
> >>What is the latest on SATA compatibility?
> >>It sounds like we're going to need a driver
> >>for every chipset out there like SCSI.
> >>
> >>It would be nice if the kernel would just
> >>work like it does with PATA.
> >
> >
> > PATA requires a driver for every chipset, too. Most distro kernels
> > include them all, so things "just work". But if you've ever built your
> > own kernel you've seen the broad range of chipset-specific drivers that
> > are available. A quick look suggests there's at least a couple dozen
> > IDE chipset drivers.
>
> PATA drives are supported "out of the box" so a new kernel is not
> nessesary. If I can't install linux in the first place, how can I
> rebuild a kernel?
>
I hear you there. I have a Siig Ultra-ATA cn2487 and all my hard-drives are
invisible to Mandrake 8.2 during the install. This causes it to lock-up
when it gets to the partitioning step. I am so bummed.
--
matt -`;'- mbox1.RemoveThis@alltel.net

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:05:13 -0600, matt -`;'- wrote:

>
> "Richard Swanson" <rich DeleteThis @richandcheryl.com> wrote in message
> news:j%9Cb.502$5Q6.333@okepread04...
>> John-Paul Stewart wrote:
>> > Richard Swanson wrote:
>> >
>> >>OK OK
>> >>
>> >>What is the latest on SATA compatibility? It sounds like we're going
>> >>to need a driver for every chipset out there like SCSI.
>> >>
>> >>It would be nice if the kernel would just work like it does with PATA.
>> >
>> >
>> > PATA requires a driver for every chipset, too. Most distro kernels
>> > include them all, so things "just work". But if you've ever built
>> > your own kernel you've seen the broad range of chipset-specific
>> > drivers that are available. A quick look suggests there's at least a
>> > couple dozen IDE chipset drivers.
>>
>> PATA drives are supported "out of the box" so a new kernel is not
>> nessesary. If I can't install linux in the first place, how can I
>> rebuild a kernel?
>>
> I hear you there. I have a Siig Ultra-ATA cn2487 and all my hard-drives
> are invisible to Mandrake 8.2 during the install. This causes it to
> lock-up when it gets to the partitioning step. I am so bummed. --
> matt -`;'- mbox1 DeleteThis @alltel.net


Don't know if 8.2 has this capability but Mandrake 9.0, 9.1 ,9.2 will
allow you to load additional kernel modules to detect/support hardware
that the installer kernel doesn't support.

You hit "F1 additional options" right at the beginning of installation and
use either "expert" (type expert) mode or "updatemodules" and put a floopy
with the appropriate module into the drive.

"John-Paul Stewart" <jpstewart.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD89BB5.90A7C81C@sympatico.ca...
> Richard Swanson wrote:
> >
> > OK OK
> >
> > What is the latest on SATA compatibility?
> > It sounds like we're going to need a driver
> > for every chipset out there like SCSI.
> >
> > It would be nice if the kernel would just
> > work like it does with PATA.
>
> PATA requires a driver for every chipset, too. Most distro kernels
> include them all, so things "just work". But if you've ever built your
> own kernel you've seen the broad range of chipset-specific drivers that
> are available. A quick look suggests there's at least a couple dozen
> IDE chipset drivers.

No you have it wrong.

DMA 16 , UDMA33, 66, 100, 133 modes all require chipset specific support.
but all the IDE interfaces work in PIO mode without any requirement for
chipset specific stuff.

"Leon." wrote:
>
> "John-Paul Stewart" <jpstewart.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FD89BB5.90A7C81C@sympatico.ca...
> > Richard Swanson wrote:
> > >
> > > OK OK
> > >
> > > What is the latest on SATA compatibility?
> > > It sounds like we're going to need a driver
> > > for every chipset out there like SCSI.
> > >
> > > It would be nice if the kernel would just
> > > work like it does with PATA.
> >
> > PATA requires a driver for every chipset, too. Most distro kernels
> > include them all, so things "just work". But if you've ever built your
> > own kernel you've seen the broad range of chipset-specific drivers that
> > are available. A quick look suggests there's at least a couple dozen
> > IDE chipset drivers.
>
> No you have it wrong.
>
> DMA 16 , UDMA33, 66, 100, 133 modes all require chipset specific support.
> but all the IDE interfaces work in PIO mode without any requirement for
> chipset specific stuff.

But does *anybody* actually use PIO modes anymore? Considering the
performance hit you take with PIO, I doubt it. That's why most distro
makers compile in support for all the different IDE chipsets in their
stock kernels.

Richard Swanson <rich.DeleteThis@richandcheryl.com> wrote:
> OK OK
>
> What is the latest on SATA compatibility?

To the best of my ability, this is:
"Serial ATA" on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Hardware

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