Opera 8.0 Final

On Sat, 14 May 2005 14:02:21 -0400, Robt. W. Fletcher Jr <me DeleteThis @wa.us> wrote:

> Ib Højme <ib DeleteThis @hojme.dk> writes:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I think I found a rendering bug in Opera 8.o Final on this site
>> http://dantax-radio.dk The menus are layered below the picture. Can
>> anyone confirm this ?
>
> Yes. The picture is really Flash. Firefox does the same symptoms if
> flash is enabled.
>
> Since I don't run Opera with Flash enabled -- the menus appear fine.
>

Actually works in Opera for Windows. Guess that means Firefox in Linux has
the same problems with plugins Opera does.

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On Sat, 14 May 2005 19:09:19 +0200, Ib Højme <ib.DeleteThis@hojme.dk> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I think I found a rendering bug in Opera 8.o Final on this site
> http://dantax-radio.dk
> The menus are layered below the picture. Can anyone confirm this ?
>
> Opera 8.0 Final, build 1095, opera-8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt.i386-en
> Slackware Linux 10.1 i868 2.4.29
> Qt 3.3.2
> Java 1.5.0_01

This works fine in WinOpera 8.0. Does the Flash plugin for Linux support
wmode="transparent"?

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"Rijk van Geijtenbeek" <rijk RemoveThis @opera.com> writes:

> This works fine in WinOpera 8.0. Does the Flash plugin for Linux
> support wmode="transparent"?

Don't know. The best way to make Flash transparent on GNU/Linux is to
disable the plugin.

Note: galeon and firefox both exhibit the same reported problem -- but
firefox has a nice FlashBlock extension, which blocks the Flash and
allows the menus to be displayed.

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On Sun, 15 May 2005 02:56:04 +0200, Robt. W. Fletcher Jr <me.DeleteThis@wa.us> wrote:

> "Rijk van Geijtenbeek" <rijk.DeleteThis@opera.com> writes:
>
>> This works fine in WinOpera 8.0. Does the Flash plugin for Linux
>> support wmode="transparent"?
>
> Don't know. The best way to make Flash transparent on GNU/Linux is to
> disable the plugin.
>
> Note: galeon and firefox both exhibit the same reported problem -- but
> firefox has a nice FlashBlock extension, which blocks the Flash and
> allows the menus to be displayed.

Given that Flash accounts for 98% of the plugins I encounter in real
surfing, F12 would work fine that purpose here

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"Rijk van Geijtenbeek" <rijk.RemoveThis@opera.com> writes:

> Given that Flash accounts for 98% of the plugins I encounter in real
> surfing, F12 would work fine that purpose here

Things might work differently on WinDoz vs GNU/linux.

a. F12 (disabling plugins) does not stop CPU usage on pages that are
already displaying flash.

b. That said, it appears Eirik has made some changes (either he forgot
to add them to the Changelogs or I missed them) to Opera.

c. If the page that has flash is NOT in focus the CPU usage is clearly
reduced.

d. www.macromedia.com page open, my.opera.com/forums in focus, plugins
disabled, but flash still running/working. operamotifwrapper
.eq. ~9-10% of my CPU.

e. with www.macromedia.com page in forcus, the CPU usage of
operamotifwrapper goes to ~18-19%.

f. if I iconify Opera, with macromedia focused or unfocused, CPU is
~9-10%

Previous (don't know when it changed) versions of Opera would destroy
the CPU irrespectively of whether the page was in focus or not or
whether Opera was iconified or not.

9-10% CPU usage on a 400MHz CPU is just peanuts to you guys have 2.+
GHz CPUs

Interesting issue: Even with the FlashBlock extension, Firefox
downloads the Flash -- Opera doesn't (if flash or plugins are
disabled). Plus to Opera. Firefox has a nice graphic which tells you
that it's Flash -- Opera not so nice. Plus to Firefox. Firefox 'seems'
to use less CPU cycles if the page isn't in focus or if Firefox is
iconified. Plus to Firefox.

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-rwf

Hi all,

Thanks for your answers - the issues has to do with flash as your answers
suggest.
So disabling plug-ins makes it possible to see the menus.
Guess I'll run with the flash plug-in disabled in the future


Best regards

Ib

On Sat, 14 May 2005 19:09:19 +0200, Ib Højme <ib.TakeThisOut@hojme.dk> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I think I found a rendering bug in Opera 8.o Final on this site
> http://dantax-radio.dk
> The menus are layered below the picture. Can anyone confirm this ?
>
> Opera 8.0 Final, build 1095, opera-8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt.i386-en
> Slackware Linux 10.1 i868 2.4.29
> Qt 3.3.2
> Java 1.5.0_01
>
>
> Best
>
> Ib