[News] Microsoft OOXML: Fail

In article <s7dka5-hcb.ln1.RemoveThis@ellandroad.demon.co.uk>,
Mark Kent <mark.kent.RemoveThis@demon.co.uk> wrote:

> You have spun well for your paymasters, however, nobody, anywhere, is
> remotely convinced that you are acting for anything other than the
> interests of Microsoft in your efforts to corrupt ISO, to push a
> standard through on fast-track which is clearly not only widely
> unsupported but so immature as to be next to worthless.
>
> We *know* that Microsoft could easily implement ODF it it wanted.
> We *know* that Microsoft will "innovate" beyond OOXML anyway.
> We *know* that OOXML in its present form is utterly incomplete and
> unusable.
>
>
> >
> >> Good. Now push off.
> >
> > Strange ... )
> >
>
> Not really, you are here pushing the agenda of Microsoft. Just like
> you've been doing in ISO.
>
> --
> | Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk
.... |
> | My (new) blog: http://www.thereisnomagic.org |

According to your blog, you work at BT. Googling for "BT Microsoft"
shows that BT and Microsoft are quite friendly, and have been so for
quite a while. Some things they've done together:

LAS VEGAS ‹ Jan. 6, 2008 ‹ Microsoft Corp. and telecommunications
leader BT announced they are bringing together the next-generation
TV service BT Vision with Microsoft¹s Xbox 360 games and
entertainment system. All BT broadband customers will have the
unique opportunity to receive the best in high-definition gaming,
television and movies through an Xbox 360 console, in a powerful,
all-in-one entertainment experience. BT Vision, which is powered by
the Microsoft Mediaroom Internet Protocol TV (IPTV) platform, plans
to make this first-of-its-kind device and service offering available
to customers in the middle of 2008. The announcement was made during
the keynote address by Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates and Microsoft
President Robbie Bach of the Entertainment & Devices Division at
2008 International CES on Jan. 6.

<http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/15398/BT-and-Microsoft-Announce-Partnershi
p-to-Deliver-IPTV/>

BT and Microsoft said they would collaborate in European markets,
starting with the UK, to build a wide range of broadband
applications. The alliance would help Microsoft establish a European
foothold with a key distribution partners for some of its major
initiatives, notably its .NET platform, MSN and the upcoming online
Xbox gaming environment.

<http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/1496651>

REDMOND, Wash., and LONDON ‹ June 28, 2005 ‹ Microsoft Corp. and BT
today announced BT¹s intention to use the Microsoft® TV Internet
Protocol Television (IPTV) Edition software platform to deliver TV
over broadband in the United Kingdom. The announcement further
strengthens Microsoft¹s continued commitment to working with the
world¹s leading network operators to bring next-generation
television services to consumers.

<http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jun05/06-28BTSelectionPR.m
spx>

LONDON and REDMOND, Wash., July 12, 2004 ‹ ‹ BT and Microsoft Corp.
today announced a global strategic alliance to deliver a
next-generation, integrated real-time communication and
collaboration solution to BT and Microsoft customers worldwide,
starting with immediate availability in the United Kingdom and
United States. The combined solution joins BT's audio conferencing
services and Microsoft® Office Live Meeting to help businesses more
effectively and efficiently communicate and collaborate with their
globally dispersed customers, partners and employees.

<http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/jul04/07-12btmicrosoftpart
nershippr.mspx>

So, Microsoft partner Mark Kent, why are you so hard on Jesper for
working at a company that has done things with Microosft?

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--Tim Smith

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:21:38 -0700, Jim Richardson wrote:

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> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:27:24 +0000,
> Mark Kent <mark.kent.DeleteThis@demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Jesper Lund Stocholm <jls2008.DeleteThis@lundstocholm.invalid> espoused:
>>> William Poaster <wp.DeleteThis@leafnode.amd64.eu> wrote in
>>> news:qo7ia5-c6b.ln1@leafnode.archimedes.eu:
>>>
>>>> Jesper Lund Stocholm wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, you mean like Micro$oft did with their "Get the Facts"
>>>> campaign...yeah, that was factually correct, wasn't it.
>>>> And like Micro$oft's ads, that were pulled by the UK Advertising
>>>> Standards Authority:
>>>> http://www.cxolinux.com/linux/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=1393&cat_id=12
>>>> 02 And also by the South African Advertising Standards Authority:
>>>> http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/business/2003/0303201315.asp?S=Software
>>>> &A=SFT&O=FPMS
>>>
>>> So you are saying that the information I have provided is false?
>>
>> You have spun well for your paymasters, however, nobody, anywhere, is
>> remotely convinced that you are acting for anything other than the
>> interests of Microsoft in your efforts to corrupt ISO, to push a
>> standard through on fast-track which is clearly not only widely
>> unsupported but so immature as to be next to worthless.
>>
>
> Mark, Jesper Lund Stocholm has been reasonable and polite. Perhaps you
> could try responding in kind.

Yes he has.
The problem is Jesper is a gentleman and he offers facts.
Mark and Roy are rabid zealots and all they offer is insults and far out
statements backed with phrases like " a reliable source told me" etc.


>
>> We *know* that Microsoft could easily implement ODF it it wanted.
>> We *know* that Microsoft will "innovate" beyond OOXML anyway.
>> We *know* that OOXML in its present form is utterly incomplete and
>> unusable.
>>
>>
>
> I don't trust MS, plain and simple. I don't think most of the people
> there are evil in the normal sense. But the company sure acts that way.
> Madness of crowds to a certain aspect.

I don't trust Microsoft either, but that doesn't mean I see paranoia in
everything they do.


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