NEWS - Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access (buh-by..

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Lusotec pulled this Usenet boner:
>> <quote>
>> However, like previous null pointer dereference issues in the Linux
>> kernel, the vulnerability can only be exploited if the kernel's
>> mmap_min_addr system variable is set to 0. mmap_min_addr describes the
>> lowest virtual address a process can use for mapping. If it is greater
>> than 0, exploits that involve a null-valued pointer to this address won't
>> work. </quote>
>> <http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-allows-
root-access-850016.html>
>>
>> I find it strange that Red Hat would set mmap_min_addr to 0 because of
>> Wine or DOSEMU. First, Wine works with a non zero mmap_min_addr, at least
>> in all systems I ever used Wine. Second, Red Hat is mostly used on
>> servers and Wine or DOSEMU have no place there.
>>
>> Can anyone check mmap_min_addr (cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr) on your
>> Red Hat and/or Debian systems?
>
> Debian squeeze 32-bit: 4096
> Debian squeeze 64-bit: 4096
> Fedora 11 64-bit: 65536

Thank you, Chris.

On all systems I manage: 1048576 (1MiB)
On Mandriva by default: 4096 (4KiB)

Regards.

Ezekiel wrote:

>
> "Peter K�hlmann" <peter-koehlmann DeleteThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a
>>>>>> NULL pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>> access a
>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>> statement
>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>
>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>
>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition.
>>>> Oh wait... he did that too.
>>
>> Well, it can't
>
> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the
> best music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.

It still does not composition. It simply *helps* composers, but it does
not do composition by itself. *No* music notation software does

This is true for basically all music notation software. It just is
different how easy it is to enter notes


--
Windows was created to keep stupid people away from UNIX."
-- Tom Christiansen

"Lusotec" <nomail DeleteThis @nomail.not> wrote in message
news:hcscgr$ivn$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Lusotec pulled this Usenet boner:
>>> <quote>
>>> However, like previous null pointer dereference issues in the Linux
>>> kernel, the vulnerability can only be exploited if the kernel's
>>> mmap_min_addr system variable is set to 0. mmap_min_addr describes the
>>> lowest virtual address a process can use for mapping. If it is greater
>>> than 0, exploits that involve a null-valued pointer to this address
>>> won't
>>> work. </quote>
>>> <http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-allows-
> root-access-850016.html>
>>>
>>> I find it strange that Red Hat would set mmap_min_addr to 0 because of
>>> Wine or DOSEMU. First, Wine works with a non zero mmap_min_addr, at
>>> least
>>> in all systems I ever used Wine. Second, Red Hat is mostly used on
>>> servers and Wine or DOSEMU have no place there.
>>>
>>> Can anyone check mmap_min_addr (cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr) on your
>>> Red Hat and/or Debian systems?
>>
>> Debian squeeze 32-bit: 4096
>> Debian squeeze 64-bit: 4096
>> Fedora 11 64-bit: 65536
>
> Thank you, Chris.
>
> On all systems I manage: 1048576 (1MiB)
> On Mandriva by default: 4096 (4KiB)

On two Ubuntu 8.04 installs it's 65536

but on Debian 5.0 it's:

zeke@debian:~$ cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr
0
zeke@debian:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Sat Oct 17 17:59:23 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

"PeterKöhlmann" <peter-koehlmann RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
news:hcsdp8$c2p$02$1@news.t-online.com...
> Ezekiel wrote:
>
>>
>> "Peter K�hlmann" <peter-koehlmann RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a
>>>>>>> NULL pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>> statement
>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition.
>>>>> Oh wait... he did that too.
>>>
>>> Well, it can't
>>
>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the
>> best music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>
> It still does not composition. It simply *helps* composers, but it does
> not do composition by itself. *No* music notation software does

Well DUH!!! Your defense is to now claim that all along you were arguing
about the application composing music all "by itself." The obvious point
that it's software that allows musicians to do composition never occurred to
you - you thought the music would just write itself? Do we also need to
point out that it has to be a "live" musician in order for the software to
work and that it can't magically compose music for Mozart?



> This is true for basically all music notation software.

Yeah - it's basically true that people have to use the software to compose
music. The software can't do it all "by itself."

Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann DeleteThis @t-online.de> writes:

> Ezekiel wrote:
>
>>
>> "Peter K�hlmann" <peter-koehlmann DeleteThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a
>>>>>>> NULL pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>> statement
>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition.
>>>>> Oh wait... he did that too.
>>>
>>> Well, it can't
>>
>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the
>> best music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>
> It still does not composition. It simply *helps* composers, but it does
> not do composition by itself. *No* music notation software does

Pathetic. Even by your standards.

>
> This is true for basically all music notation software. It just is
> different how easy it is to enter notes

You mean Music notation? You get more idiotic with every post. Even
Ahlstrom will get a giggle from this latest cock up by you.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:42:45 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:

> "PeterKöhlmann" <peter-koehlmann RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:hcsdp8$c2p$02$1@news.t-online.com...
>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Peter K�hlmann" <peter-koehlmann RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
>>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a
>>>>>>>> NULL pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition.
>>>>>> Oh wait... he did that too.
>>>>
>>>> Well, it can't
>>>
>>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the
>>> best music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>>
>> It still does not composition. It simply *helps* composers, but it does
>> not do composition by itself. *No* music notation software does
>
> Well DUH!!! Your defense is to now claim that all along you were arguing
> about the application composing music all "by itself." The obvious point
> that it's software that allows musicians to do composition never occurred to
> you - you thought the music would just write itself? Do we also need to
> point out that it has to be a "live" musician in order for the software to
> work and that it can't magically compose music for Mozart?
>
>
>
>> This is true for basically all music notation software.
>
> Yeah - it's basically true that people have to use the software to compose
> music. The software can't do it all "by itself."


Kohlmann is dancing like a drunk Luftwaffe pilot.
Between the nvidia thread, the null pointer thread and his idiotic Finale
cock up.

He has a serious problem admitting when he is wrong.

"John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5d1tc68sfqbn.15efrgnisy0hc$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:42:45 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "PeterKöhlmann" <peter-koehlmann.DeleteThis@t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:hcsdp8$c2p$02$1@news.t-online.com...
>>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Peter K�hlmann" <peter-koehlmann.DeleteThis@t-online.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a
>>>>>>>>> NULL pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition.
>>>>>>> Oh wait... he did that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it can't
>>>>
>>>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the
>>>> best music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>>>
>>> It still does not composition. It simply *helps* composers, but it does
>>> not do composition by itself. *No* music notation software does
>>
>> Well DUH!!! Your defense is to now claim that all along you were arguing
>> about the application composing music all "by itself." The obvious point
>> that it's software that allows musicians to do composition never occurred
>> to
>> you - you thought the music would just write itself? Do we also need to
>> point out that it has to be a "live" musician in order for the software
>> to
>> work and that it can't magically compose music for Mozart?
>>
>>
>>
>>> This is true for basically all music notation software.
>>
>> Yeah - it's basically true that people have to use the software to
>> compose
>> music. The software can't do it all "by itself."
>
>


> Kohlmann is dancing like a drunk Luftwaffe pilot.

That's a keeper!

Ezekiel wrote:
> "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann.TakeThisOut@t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a NULL
>>>>>> pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>> access a
>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>> statement
>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>
>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>> How can we help?
>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition. Oh
>>>> wait... he did that too.
>> Well, it can't
>
> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the best
> music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>
> Congrats Köhltard - most cretins have to work very hard to be half as
> stupid as you are.
>
> <quote>
> Finale 2010 Notation Software
> Winner of: Best Music Notation & Composition Software
>
> #1 - Finale 2010 Notation Software
> Why it's best:
> Finale 2010 is an ever-evolving music notation software. It gives uses the
> tools needed for music composition, arrangement, notation, and even the
> ability to print engraver-quality sheet music.
>
> #2 - Sibelius 6 Professional Notation Software
>
> #3 - NOTION 3.0 Composition Software
> </quote>
>
> http://www.bestcovery.com/best-music-notation-composition-software
>
>
>
>
Finale doesn't "do composition" any more than a quill, ink and paper does.

John Fuhrer wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:42:45 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "PeterKöhlmann" <peter-koehlmann DeleteThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:hcsdp8$c2p$02$1@news.t-online.com...
>>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Peter K�hlmann" <peter-koehlmann DeleteThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a
>>>>>>>>> NULL pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition.
>>>>>>> Oh wait... he did that too.
>>>>> Well, it can't
>>>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the
>>>> best music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>>> It still does not composition. It simply *helps* composers, but it does
>>> not do composition by itself. *No* music notation software does
>> Well DUH!!! Your defense is to now claim that all along you were arguing
>> about the application composing music all "by itself." The obvious point
>> that it's software that allows musicians to do composition never occurred to
>> you - you thought the music would just write itself? Do we also need to
>> point out that it has to be a "live" musician in order for the software to
>> work and that it can't magically compose music for Mozart?
>>
>>
>>
>>> This is true for basically all music notation software.
>> Yeah - it's basically true that people have to use the software to compose
>> music. The software can't do it all "by itself."
>
>
> Kohlmann is dancing like a drunk Luftwaffe pilot.
> Between the nvidia thread, the null pointer thread and his idiotic Finale
> cock up.
>
> He has a serious problem admitting when he is wrong.

.... except that Finale doesn't "do composition" any more than quill,
ink and paper do.

"Rick" <nomail.RemoveThis@none.invalid> wrote in message
news:AaednRJP-ovKRGzXnZ2dnUVZ_gli4p2d@supernews.com...
> Ezekiel wrote:
>> "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann.RemoveThis@t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a
>>>>>>> NULL
>>>>>>> pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>> statement
>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition.
>>>>> Oh
>>>>> wait... he did that too.
>>> Well, it can't
>>
>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the
>> best music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>>
>> Congrats Köhltard - most cretins have to work very hard to be half as
>> stupid as you are.
>>
>> <quote>
>> Finale 2010 Notation Software
>> Winner of: Best Music Notation & Composition Software
>>
>> #1 - Finale 2010 Notation Software
>> Why it's best:
>> Finale 2010 is an ever-evolving music notation software. It gives uses
>> the tools needed for music composition, arrangement, notation, and even
>> the ability to print engraver-quality sheet music.
>>
>> #2 - Sibelius 6 Professional Notation Software
>>
>> #3 - NOTION 3.0 Composition Software
>> </quote>
>>
>> http://www.bestcovery.com/best-music-notation-composition-software
>>
>>
>>
>>

> Finale doesn't "do composition" any more than a quill, ink and paper does.

No need to keep proving that you're an idiot Rick. Nobody ever claimed that
Finale does composition all by itself. Any more than photography software
won't take photos all by itself. This doesn't change the *fact* that Finale
is music composition software that can be used by a human to compose music.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:50:22 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:

> "Rick" <nomail.TakeThisOut@none.invalid> wrote in message
> news:AaednRJP-ovKRGzXnZ2dnUVZ_gli4p2d@supernews.com...
>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann.TakeThisOut@t-online.de> wrote in message
>>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a
>>>>>>>> NULL
>>>>>>>> pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition.
>>>>>> Oh
>>>>>> wait... he did that too.
>>>> Well, it can't
>>>
>>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the
>>> best music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>>>
>>> Congrats Köhltard - most cretins have to work very hard to be half as
>>> stupid as you are.
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Finale 2010 Notation Software
>>> Winner of: Best Music Notation & Composition Software
>>>
>>> #1 - Finale 2010 Notation Software
>>> Why it's best:
>>> Finale 2010 is an ever-evolving music notation software. It gives uses
>>> the tools needed for music composition, arrangement, notation, and even
>>> the ability to print engraver-quality sheet music.
>>>
>>> #2 - Sibelius 6 Professional Notation Software
>>>
>>> #3 - NOTION 3.0 Composition Software
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> http://www.bestcovery.com/best-music-notation-composition-software
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>> Finale doesn't "do composition" any more than a quill, ink and paper does.
>
> No need to keep proving that you're an idiot Rick. Nobody ever claimed that
> Finale does composition all by itself. Any more than photography software
> won't take photos all by itself. This doesn't change the *fact* that Finale
> is music composition software that can be used by a human to compose music.

Poor Rick.

He is looking as foolish as Kohlmann, Willy Poaster and Terry Porter.

Rick <nomail DeleteThis @none.invalid> writes:

> Ezekiel wrote:
>> "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann DeleteThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a NULL
>>>>>>> pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>> statement
>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition. Oh
>>>>> wait... he did that too.
>>> Well, it can't
>>
>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the best
>> music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>>
>> Congrats Köhltard - most cretins have to work very hard to be half as
>> stupid as you are.
>>
>> <quote>
>> Finale 2010 Notation Software
>> Winner of: Best Music Notation & Composition Software
>>
>> #1 - Finale 2010 Notation Software
>> Why it's best:
>> Finale 2010 is an ever-evolving music notation software. It gives uses the
>> tools needed for music composition, arrangement, notation, and even the
>> ability to print engraver-quality sheet music.
>>
>> #2 - Sibelius 6 Professional Notation Software
>>
>> #3 - NOTION 3.0 Composition Software
>> </quote>
>>
>> http://www.bestcovery.com/best-music-notation-composition-software
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Finale doesn't "do composition" any more than a quill, ink and paper does.
>

Rick. Shut up. You really don't need to dig Koehlmann out of this. It IS
Music Composition SW.

Tell me do you expect the OO word processor to "process the words" on
its own too?

Do grow up.

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:47:13 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> Rick <nomail RemoveThis @none.invalid> writes:
>
>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote in message
>>> news:hcs9j3$hdv$03$1@news.t-online.com...
>>>> John Fuhrer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:54:55 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:rn8qjdtr4m75$.k2apbnabme3d$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:57:23 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Kohltard insisted that it's perfectly legal to dereference a NULL
>>>>>>>> pointer so this can't be a real bug, can it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>> 4 November 2009, 13:54
>>>>>>>> Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A null pointer dereference in the Linux kernel can be exploited to
>>>>>>>> access a
>>>>>>>> system at root privilege level. The hole is reportedly contained in
>>>>>>>> pipe.c
>>>>>>>> and can occur in certain circumstances when using the
>>>>>>>> pipe_read_open(), pipe_write_open() or pipe_rdwr_open() functions
>>>>>>>> while releasing a mutex (mutual exclusion) too early - which
>>>>>>>> constitutes a classic race condition.
>>>>>>>> So far, the flaw has only been fixed in release candidate 6 of the
>>>>>>>> forthcoming version 2.6.32.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hole-in-the-Linux-kernel-
>>>> allows-root-access-850016.html
>>>>>>> Kohlmann got his a$$ seriously kicked in COLA yesterday.
>>>>>>> Between the nvidia "just works" with Ubuntu 9.10 and his idiotic
>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>> about server Linux vs desktop Linux, it's been a bad day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So now he gets rope-a-doped again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Poor Peter.
>>>>>>> How can we help?
>>>>>> Next he'll be telling people that Finale can't do music composition. Oh
>>>>>> wait... he did that too.
>>>> Well, it can't
>>>
>>> Don't let little things like the FACT that Finale won 1st place as the best
>>> music composition software get in way of your idiotic ramblings.
>>>
>>> Congrats Köhltard - most cretins have to work very hard to be half as
>>> stupid as you are.
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Finale 2010 Notation Software
>>> Winner of: Best Music Notation & Composition Software
>>>
>>> #1 - Finale 2010 Notation Software
>>> Why it's best:
>>> Finale 2010 is an ever-evolving music notation software. It gives uses the
>>> tools needed for music composition, arrangement, notation, and even the
>>> ability to print engraver-quality sheet music.
>>>
>>> #2 - Sibelius 6 Professional Notation Software
>>>
>>> #3 - NOTION 3.0 Composition Software
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> http://www.bestcovery.com/best-music-notation-composition-software
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Finale doesn't "do composition" any more than a quill, ink and paper does.
>>
>
> Rick. Shut up. You really don't need to dig Koehlmann out of this. It IS
> Music Composition SW.
>
> Tell me do you expect the OO word processor to "process the words" on
> its own too?
>
> Do grow up.

Between him and Willy Poser playing semantic games in the Nvidia
discussion, it's getting rather pathetic around here.

They are just looking like idiots the more they bob and weave.

Whatever small amount of Linux advocacy that was once in COLA has
disintegrated to just about nothing.