KDE4.1 audio mess

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:11:20 +0100, Martin Baker wrote:

>> On startup the audio fails, no start up sound and an error message
>> saying the audio doesn't work and using default. Both my 64 bit laptop
>> and 32 bit desktop have the same problem. yet you go to hardware in
>> yast and 'play test sound' works fine. Just can't play startup sound
>> whatever that is. Haven't found where to configure that yet. Enable
>> desktop effects just turns my screen white and I have to restart KDE.
>>
>>
> try installing phonon-backend-xine (using yast) then reboot.
>
> worked for me.
>
> Martin

Why would you reboot? Is there a kernel change involved? Actually, I know
the answer to that but I'm just curious why someone would reboot after
installing a sound back end?

Dave

David W Studeman wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:11:20 +0100, Martin Baker wrote:
>
>>> On startup the audio fails, no start up sound and an error message
>>> saying the audio doesn't work and using default. Both my 64 bit laptop
>>> and 32 bit desktop have the same problem. yet you go to hardware in
>>> yast and 'play test sound' works fine. Just can't play startup sound
>>> whatever that is. Haven't found where to configure that yet. Enable
>>> desktop effects just turns my screen white and I have to restart KDE.
>>>
>>>
>> try installing phonon-backend-xine (using yast) then reboot.
>>
>> worked for me.
>>
>> Martin
>
> Why would you reboot? Is there a kernel change involved? Actually, I know
> the answer to that but I'm just curious why someone would reboot after
> installing a sound back end?

Probably because that "worked for him".

>Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> David W Studeman wrote:
>> Why would you reboot? Is there a kernel change involved? Actually, I know
>> the answer to that but I'm just curious why someone would reboot after
>> installing a sound back end?
>
> Probably because that "worked for him".

Very amusing, I'm sure, but after further testing I have found that it doesn't work completely.

I still get no sound from QT3 applications running under KDE4.1, for instance I don't get audio notifications of email messages, even though they are enabled in Mail and also in systemsettings.

Perhaps you could use your wit and superior knowledge to explain how to enable this.

Martin

David W Studeman wrote:
> Why would you reboot? Is there a kernel change involved? Actually, I know
> the answer to that but I'm just curious why someone would reboot after
> installing a sound back end?

I often do it because I am too lazy to look what command I need to run
to activate or deactivate whatever isn't or is running. Or sometimes just
for the fun of it.

Typing rc[tab][tab], looking for whatever it might be, doing the
rcwhatever restart, checking if all is well.

It is much easier to just to type `reboot` in xterm, which is open
anyways.
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Martin Baker wrote:
>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> David W Studeman wrote:
>>> Why would you reboot? Is there a kernel change involved? Actually, I know
>>> the answer to that but I'm just curious why someone would reboot after
>>> installing a sound back end?
>> Probably because that "worked for him".
>
> Very amusing, I'm sure, but after further testing I have found that it doesn't work completely.
>
> I still get no sound from QT3 applications running under KDE4.1, for instance I don't get audio notifications of email messages, even though they are enabled in Mail and also in systemsettings.
>
> Perhaps you could use your wit and superior knowledge to explain how to enable this.

My response was not supposed to be ironic or anything.

Anyway, the way I solved all my audio issues is not something I would
recommend others to do; it's quite a bit of work. I compiled my own
kernel with audio support (ALSA) completely disabled, installed Open
Sound System 4 (http://www.opensound.com), and I have set-up all
applications to use the OSS interface of /dev/dsp directly without any
arts/ESD/phonon/whatever stuff in-between.

That's my "wit and superior knowledge" at work here, I guess

On 2008-08-12, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc.DeleteThis@arcor.de> wrote:
> Martin Baker wrote:
>>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> David W Studeman wrote:
>>>> Why would you reboot? Is there a kernel change involved? Actually, I know
>>>> the answer to that but I'm just curious why someone would reboot after
>>>> installing a sound back end?
>>> Probably because that "worked for him".
>>
>> Very amusing, I'm sure, but after further testing I have found that it doesn't work completely.
>>
>> I still get no sound from QT3 applications running under KDE4.1, for instance I don't get audio notifications of email messages, even though they are enabled in Mail and also in systemsettings.
>>
>> Perhaps you could use your wit and superior knowledge to explain how to enable this.
>
> My response was not supposed to be ironic or anything.
>
> Anyway, the way I solved all my audio issues is not something I would
> recommend others to do; it's quite a bit of work. I compiled my own
> kernel with audio support (ALSA) completely disabled, installed Open
> Sound System 4 (http://www.opensound.com), and I have set-up all
> applications to use the OSS interface of /dev/dsp directly without any
> arts/ESD/phonon/whatever stuff in-between.
>
> That's my "wit and superior knowledge" at work here, I guess

Just for curiosity: Assume the sound works normally with normal setup,
what would be the gain if it's done the way you did?
Does one get more out of it that way?

Why I'm asking is that I'm going to put together a new machine and it's
going to have 7.1 sound integrated on the MOBO. (Igues they all do?)

I'm listening to Mp3 most of the time so I assume not much can be done,
or needs to be, I'm cool with that.

Just like to know

Vahis
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Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Martin Baker wrote:
>>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> David W Studeman wrote:
>>>> Why would you reboot? Is there a kernel change involved? Actually, I
>>>> know
>>>> the answer to that but I'm just curious why someone would reboot after
>>>> installing a sound back end?
>>> Probably because that "worked for him".
>>
>> Very amusing, I'm sure, but after further testing I have found that it
>> doesn't work completely.
>>
>> I still get no sound from QT3 applications running under KDE4.1, for
>> instance I don't get audio notifications of email messages, even
>> though they are enabled in Mail and also in systemsettings.
>>
>> Perhaps you could use your wit and superior knowledge to explain how
>> to enable this.
>
> My response was not supposed to be ironic or anything.
>
> Anyway, the way I solved all my audio issues is not something I would
> recommend others to do; it's quite a bit of work. I compiled my own
> kernel with audio support (ALSA) completely disabled, installed Open
> Sound System 4 (http://www.opensound.com), and I have set-up all
> applications to use the OSS interface of /dev/dsp directly without any
> arts/ESD/phonon/whatever stuff in-between.
>
> That's my "wit and superior knowledge" at work here, I guess

I resolved mine by going back to KDE 3.5.9. Much easier than your method.

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