what's with all the talk about "Kara" ?

Barry Freeman wrote:
>
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:57:42 -0400, RogerM
> <roger.mckay.TakeThisOut@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >How is that different from setting the loot when the mob spawns (which
> >is when the party enters the instance for the first time or on respawn)?
> >I agree that setting loot according to party composition is a better way
> >to do it, but I don't how the different timing matters.
>
> Because at spawn time, the mob (or the ai controlling the mob, really)
> doesn't know the composition of the party. The party makeup can and
> does change frequently, especially in raids and what entered the
> instance may not be the same as what battles the mob eventually.

Ah. Good point. For raids, yes, I can see the difference.

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:53:31 -0800 (PST), lcpltom <lcpltom.RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>The only issue I have with changing the loot generation to match the
>party composition is that you would start to see a decline in the
>available enchanting mats out there. If every item that drops is
>potentially something someone wants, then fewer items are going to be
>passed over. A good chunk of the gold I grinded for my 300 riding
>skill training came from dungeon DE's of mail items with no mail
>wearers in he group, or cloth healing items when we have a paladin
>healer in the group, etc.

That only applies until everyone who runs the instance or whatever,
has the required item. You might run an instance specifically to
gather stuff for DE purposes.. I know my Enchanter soloed SM Cath a
number of times for just that purpose.. Didn't care what dropped,
just wanted level 35-39 greens for mats.

chocolatemalt wrote:
>
> Must really depend on the realm. On mine, mages are in huge demand at
> level 70, especially for heroics. There are never enough.

It is pretty remarkable how the servers differ in certain areas.

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Lewis <gkreme DeleteThis @gmail.com> writes:
>But no one went to Naxx... I mean, it came out, most people weren't
>attuned, and TBC was coming out in what, a month?

More like 6. The people that Naxx was built for, the supremely bored high
end raiding guilds, did go, and did finish it.

>BTW, is it even possible for a lvl 70 got exalted with Argent Dawn now?
>None of the mobs in EPL/WPL give rep except for the 61 and 62 elites.

Of course it is! Just put on an insignia and turn in scourgestones, the
same way you did at 60 when you hit revered. *
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In article <13pukq5nd2iq5ee DeleteThis @news.supernews.com>,
pv+usenet@pobox.com (PV) wrote:

> >BTW, is it even possible for a lvl 70 got exalted with Argent Dawn now?
> >None of the mobs in EPL/WPL give rep except for the 61 and 62 elites.
>
> Of course it is! Just put on an insignia and turn in scourgestones, the
> same way you did at 60 when you hit revered. *

The best way to do this that I've seen is to solo Scholo. It's pretty
easy although the diseases and curses are a drag if you don't have a
cleansing method. Every single mob kill gives rep even at Revered.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:25:31 -0700, Lewis <gkreme RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <13pukq5nd2iq5ee RemoveThis @news.supernews.com>,
> pv+usenet@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
>
>> Lewis <gkreme RemoveThis @gmail.com> writes:
>> >But no one went to Naxx... I mean, it came out, most people weren't
>> >attuned, and TBC was coming out in what, a month?
>>
>> More like 6. The people that Naxx was built for, the supremely bored high
>> end raiding guilds, did go, and did finish it.
>>
>> >BTW, is it even possible for a lvl 70 got exalted with Argent Dawn now?
>> >None of the mobs in EPL/WPL give rep except for the 61 and 62 elites.
>>
>> Of course it is! Just put on an insignia and turn in scourgestones, the
>> same way you did at 60 when you hit revered. *
>
>I did that on my Tauren Shammy and no stones dropped off the lvl 60
>mobs. Maybe it was bugged?

Wear the trinket they give you, of course they don't drop if you don't do
that, but there's no trouble with drops if you do.
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Balgair - Human Rogue (lvl 70)
Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 70)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 60)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 60)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 53)
Cathach - Gnome Warrior (lvl 30)

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:31:37 -0700, chocolatemalt
<myothername.DeleteThis@dim.com.removethis> wrote:

>In article <6sutp31ssdj1a6i8qfdka50pd0famgpb30.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
> Barry Freeman <bazz.DeleteThis@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:00:35 -0400, RogerM
>> <roger.mckay.DeleteThis@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >Unfortunately, my main is a mage and good DPS/CC is not difficult to
>> >come by. I do have a couple of non-guildies who invite me for runs, but
>> >we are not on at the same time a great deal.
>>
>> Yep, I rarely get asked on runs with my Mage or Rogue. My Priest and
>> Paladin though get whisered very quickly .. sometimes as soon as I log
>> in..that means they're on people's friends lists.
>
>Must really depend on the realm. On mine, mages are in huge demand at
>level 70, especially for heroics. There are never enough.

Ahh, maybe it'll change then.. My mage is only at 64 currently..

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:43:20 -0800 (PST), gerryq <gerryq DeleteThis @indigo.ie>
wrote:

>On Jan 30, 9:15 am, Barry Freeman <b... DeleteThis @nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:31:37 -0700, chocolatemalt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <myothern... DeleteThis @dim.com.removethis> wrote:
>> >In article <6sutp31ssdj1a6i8qfdka50pd0famgp... DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
>> > Barry Freeman <b... DeleteThis @nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:00:35 -0400, RogerM
>> >> <roger.mc... DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Unfortunately, my main is a mage and good DPS/CC is not difficult to
>> >> >come by. I do have a couple of non-guildies who invite me for runs, but
>> >> >we are not on at the same time a great deal.
>>
>> >> Yep, I rarely get asked on runs with my Mage or Rogue.  My Priest and
>> >> Paladin though get whisered very quickly .. sometimes as soon as I log
>> >> in..that means they're on people's friends lists.
>>
>> >Must really depend on the realm.  On mine, mages are in huge demand at
>> >level 70, especially for heroics.  There are never enough.
>>
>> Ahh, maybe it'll change then.. My mage is only at 64 currently..- Hide quoted text -
>
>My mage never had any trouble even at L64. I'd say they are among the
>better classes for instance invites - not as good as tanks and
>healers, but still good. There's always something to sheep, and mages
>can do good DPS. And they are less common class choices than rogues
>and hunters, though more common than locks - so fewer mages are
>fighting for the same place.
>
>Of course, it helps to be a good mage. Sheep fast, in general, but
>after the pull. Take your time engaging in combat and don't pull
>aggro, while still coming out with good damage at the end of the day.
>Ice the mob that's running for the healer. Keep your sheep sheeped.
>Once you get a good name, you'lll start to get whispers from tanks
>you've grouped with. (It's true that some tanks fear mages owing to
>bad experiences with them...)
>
>- Gerry Quinn

All true and gratefully received... I suppose as the mage is a great
soloer, I don't spend much time if any in lfg.. just get on with
killing stuff.

I ought to though, if only to improve her gear.. she's quite low in
bonus spell damage and +spellhit.

Barry Freeman wrote:
>
> All true and gratefully received... I suppose as the mage is a great
> soloer, I don't spend much time if any in lfg.. just get on with
> killing stuff.
>
> I ought to though, if only to improve her gear.. she's quite low in
> bonus spell damage and +spellhit.

Concentrate on the spellhit. I once had four straight resists on a sheep
attempt in SL.

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Lewis <gkreme.RemoveThis@gmail.com> writes:
>I've stopped grouping with 'tanks' who refuse to run a threat meter.

Or anyone else who doesn't. *
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