[story] aya (working title) #3

On 2008-11-04, Red Dragon <agclurker.DeleteThis@lurkerson.net> wrote:
> emmel wrote:
>> On 2008-11-02, Red Dragon <agclurker.DeleteThis@lurkerson.net> wrote:
>>> Neo wrote:
>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>> On 2008-10-25, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2008-10-23, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2008-10-22, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Not really. It's very nice to spend a couple of extra minutes in a
>>>>>>>>> snug
>>>>>>>>> warm bed.
>>>>>>>> I just like it to wake up and realize there is nothing I need to do
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> day (except read AGC maybe).
>>>>>>> Isn't that kinda depressing?
>>>>>> I have my girlfriend coming home to look forward to. Or posts in AGC. Or
>>>>>> the Web 2.0 forums I read. I can even play a computer game! (Sid Meier's
>>>>>> new Colonization at the moment, but I lost two times so far. Badly).
>>>>> Well, at least that's something.
>>>> You'll get a girl, don't worry. You are smart after all. And sensitive.
>>>> And creative. And InSaNe.
>>>>
>>>> I bet there is a type of girl that would go for all that!
>>>>
>>> ::coughs::
>>>
>>> Oh, there are women out there like that, but the trick is to catch them
>>> when they don't have a boyfriend already.
>>
>> Yeah. Exactly my problem.
>
> I wish I could help, I really do...
>
> I know all too well that being shy makes things seem impossible. I only
> ended up around people that wanted to date me once I had gotten into a
> gamer group full of people I could make friends with and get to know,
> instead of sitting around in my house... On my computer...
>
> If you're interested in companionship, making friends certainly helps.
> Making friends usually starts with shared interests, such as with AGC.
>
> Sorry I appear to be the only female left in this particular little
> circle, but I'd certainly be interested if I were still looking.

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On 2008-11-03, Neo <what.TakeThisOut@thematrix.is> wrote:
> emmel wrote:
>> Thus Neo spoke:
>>
>>> emmel wrote:
>>>> On 2008-11-02, Neo <what.TakeThisOut@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>> You'll get a girl, don't worry. You are smart after all. And sensitive.
>>>>> And creative. And InSaNe.
>>>> As if that's gonna help...
>>>>
>>>>> I bet there is a type of girl that would go for all that!
>>>> I guess, but what are the chances of stumbling over that type of girl
>>>> (and not instantly messing things up)?
>>> Do it like I did. Let girls stumble over you! There is no point in being
>>> married to a girl that is as shy as you are. And believe me, there are
>>> girls that will date anyone that is new to them. If they stay with you
>>> afterwards or break your heart is another question. Also, some of these
>>> girls are cute like hell!
>>
>> That has worked out just terrific that far. (Not at all.)
>
> It took a couple of decades for me. Then again, the previous relation of
> my girlfriend took over a decade!
>
>>> One tip though. When a girl keeps looking at you, look back slightly
>>> longer than is comfortable to most people. This will hint her that you
>>> are interested in her. If you look away and turn you are rejecting her.
>>
>> Well, I could give it a shot.
>
> If it is that important to you. You'll be broken, depressed, hurt,
> angry, sarcastic when things don't work out. I know I was. But then
> there is The Smiths and Joy Division to listen to

Let's see... I'm not /quite/ broken, depressed at times, hurt now and
again, angry at the world in general and myself in particular and
definitely sarcastic. Too late, I'd say.
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emmel wrote:
> On 2008-11-03, Neo <what DeleteThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>> emmel wrote:
>>> Thus Neo spoke:
>>>
>>>> Boyfriend I don't mind. Children that are not mine is what puts me off.
>>> What's wrong with that, actually?
>> Lions (and cats I believe) kill the cubs of their competitors once they
>> take over the herd. It is the only logical thing to do.
>>
>> Why would I care for offspring that hasn't got any of my DNA?
>
> We are not lions (at last were weren't last time I checked). There's a
> lot more to children than just DNA, socialisation is just as important.
> Children aren't about spreading genes, they are about spreading ideas.

Tell that to a teenager!

On the loin thing, I would just be mean and intolerant to children from
a previous relation. No-one gets better of that.

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On 2008-11-04, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
> emmel wrote:
>> On 2008-11-03, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>> emmel wrote:
>>>> Thus Neo spoke:
>>>>
>>>>> Boyfriend I don't mind. Children that are not mine is what puts me off.
>>>> What's wrong with that, actually?
>>> Lions (and cats I believe) kill the cubs of their competitors once they
>>> take over the herd. It is the only logical thing to do.
>>>
>>> Why would I care for offspring that hasn't got any of my DNA?
>>
>> We are not lions (at last were weren't last time I checked). There's a
>> lot more to children than just DNA, socialisation is just as important.
>> Children aren't about spreading genes, they are about spreading ideas.
>
> Tell that to a teenager!

Why? Is are there any around?

> On the loin thing, I would just be mean and intolerant to children from
> a previous relation. No-one gets better of that.

Well, I guess you know yourself best.
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Red Dragon wrote:
> emmel wrote:
>> On 2008-11-02, Red Dragon <agclurker.TakeThisOut@lurkerson.net> wrote:
>>> Neo wrote:
>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>> On 2008-10-25, Neo <what.TakeThisOut@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2008-10-23, Neo <what.TakeThisOut@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2008-10-22, Neo <what.TakeThisOut@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Not really. It's very nice to spend a couple of extra minutes
>>>>>>>>> in a snug
>>>>>>>>> warm bed.
>>>>>>>> I just like it to wake up and realize there is nothing I need to
>>>>>>>> do that
>>>>>>>> day (except read AGC maybe).
>>>>>>> Isn't that kinda depressing?
>>>>>> I have my girlfriend coming home to look forward to. Or posts in
>>>>>> AGC. Or
>>>>>> the Web 2.0 forums I read. I can even play a computer game! (Sid
>>>>>> Meier's
>>>>>> new Colonization at the moment, but I lost two times so far. Badly).
>>>>> Well, at least that's something.
>>>> You'll get a girl, don't worry. You are smart after all. And sensitive.
>>>> And creative. And InSaNe.
>>>>
>>>> I bet there is a type of girl that would go for all that!
>>>>
>>> ::coughs::
>>>
>>> Oh, there are women out there like that, but the trick is to catch them
>>> when they don't have a boyfriend already.
>>
>> Yeah. Exactly my problem.
>
> I wish I could help, I really do...
>
> I know all too well that being shy makes things seem impossible. I only
> ended up around people that wanted to date me once I had gotten into a
> gamer group full of people I could make friends with and get to know,
> instead of sitting around in my house... On my computer...

I know of a guy that fell in love in an online game, and got dumped in
that very same game by that same girl. Then she started dating someone
else in the guild that they shared. I can't imagine how hard that was
for him!

> If you're interested in companionship, making friends certainly helps.
> Making friends usually starts with shared interests, such as with AGC.

My girlfriend collects Mattel dolls. We don't have that much in common
when it comes to hobbies. Maybe for the best, we would fight over who
could have a new doll we just found on eBay!

> Sorry I appear to be the only female left in this particular little
> circle, but I'd certainly be interested if I were still looking.

You would travel to Germany to see someone you met on the internet?

I know I nearly travelled to Finland to meet someone, but that someone
turned out to be of a gender I have no interest in forming a romantic
relationship with.

My point really is that for a girl it is okay to meet guys in virtual
life. Because they are a very desired minority of players. But for a guy
it can be pain and misery. Add to that that guys tend to want multiple
partners while a girl can turn out tied up to an infant for 4 or 5 years
as a result from a relation. They are a minority /and/ they are less
likely to accept a relation from just anyone.

As you can see, I spend a lot of time thinking on this.

Neo
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On 2008-11-04, Neo <what.TakeThisOut@thematrix.is> wrote:
> Red Dragon wrote:
>> emmel wrote:
>>> On 2008-11-02, Red Dragon <agclurker.TakeThisOut@lurkerson.net> wrote:
>> I know all too well that being shy makes things seem impossible. I only
>> ended up around people that wanted to date me once I had gotten into a
>> gamer group full of people I could make friends with and get to know,
>> instead of sitting around in my house... On my computer...
>
> I know of a guy that fell in love in an online game, and got dumped in
> that very same game by that same girl. Then she started dating someone
> else in the guild that they shared. I can't imagine how hard that was
> for him!

That's just crazy.

>> If you're interested in companionship, making friends certainly helps.
>> Making friends usually starts with shared interests, such as with AGC.
>
> My girlfriend collects Mattel dolls. We don't have that much in common
> when it comes to hobbies. Maybe for the best, we would fight over who
> could have a new doll we just found on eBay!

When you say so.

>> Sorry I appear to be the only female left in this particular little
>> circle, but I'd certainly be interested if I were still looking.
>
> You would travel to Germany to see someone you met on the internet?
>
> I know I nearly travelled to Finland to meet someone, but that someone
> turned out to be of a gender I have no interest in forming a romantic
> relationship with.
>
> My point really is that for a girl it is okay to meet guys in virtual
> life. Because they are a very desired minority of players. But for a guy
> it can be pain and misery. Add to that that guys tend to want multiple
> partners

Speak for yourself...

> while a girl can turn out tied up to an infant for 4 or 5 years

Five or four years? Make that two decades, minimum.

> as a result from a relation. They are a minority /and/ they are less
> likely to accept a relation from just anyone.
>
> As you can see, I spend a lot of time thinking on this.
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Neo wrote:
> Red Dragon wrote:
>> emmel wrote:
>>> On 2008-11-02, Red Dragon <agclurker DeleteThis @lurkerson.net> wrote:
>>>> Neo wrote:
>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>> On 2008-10-25, Neo <what DeleteThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2008-10-23, Neo <what DeleteThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2008-10-22, Neo <what DeleteThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Not really. It's very nice to spend a couple of extra minutes
>>>>>>>>>> in a snug
>>>>>>>>>> warm bed.
>>>>>>>>> I just like it to wake up and realize there is nothing I need
>>>>>>>>> to do that
>>>>>>>>> day (except read AGC maybe).
>>>>>>>> Isn't that kinda depressing?
>>>>>>> I have my girlfriend coming home to look forward to. Or posts in
>>>>>>> AGC. Or
>>>>>>> the Web 2.0 forums I read. I can even play a computer game! (Sid
>>>>>>> Meier's
>>>>>>> new Colonization at the moment, but I lost two times so far. Badly).
>>>>>> Well, at least that's something.
>>>>> You'll get a girl, don't worry. You are smart after all. And
>>>>> sensitive.
>>>>> And creative. And InSaNe.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bet there is a type of girl that would go for all that!
>>>>>
>>>> ::coughs::
>>>>
>>>> Oh, there are women out there like that, but the trick is to catch them
>>>> when they don't have a boyfriend already.
>>>
>>> Yeah. Exactly my problem.
>>
>> I wish I could help, I really do...
>>
>> I know all too well that being shy makes things seem impossible. I only
>> ended up around people that wanted to date me once I had gotten into a
>> gamer group full of people I could make friends with and get to know,
>> instead of sitting around in my house... On my computer...
>
> I know of a guy that fell in love in an online game, and got dumped in
> that very same game by that same girl. Then she started dating someone
> else in the guild that they shared. I can't imagine how hard that was
> for him!
>

I've always thought that in-person interaction must come at some point
before throwing yourself too completely into such an attachment. That
said, it's hard to stay level-headed.

>> If you're interested in companionship, making friends certainly helps.
>> Making friends usually starts with shared interests, such as with AGC.
>
> My girlfriend collects Mattel dolls. We don't have that much in common
> when it comes to hobbies. Maybe for the best, we would fight over who
> could have a new doll we just found on eBay!
>
>> Sorry I appear to be the only female left in this particular little
>> circle, but I'd certainly be interested if I were still looking.
>
> You would travel to Germany to see someone you met on the internet?

I have traveled to Germany, and I'll probably go again at some point.

But I was thinking of it as if AGC were a group that met in-person. I'm
too shy to meet people one-on-one at first. But it is all about that
in-person interaction with me.

>
> I know I nearly travelled to Finland to meet someone, but that someone
> turned out to be of a gender I have no interest in forming a romantic
> relationship with.
>
> My point really is that for a girl it is okay to meet guys in virtual
> life. Because they are a very desired minority of players. But for a guy
> it can be pain and misery. Add to that that guys tend to want multiple
> partners while a girl can turn out tied up to an infant for 4 or 5 years
> as a result from a relation. They are a minority /and/ they are less
> likely to accept a relation from just anyone.
>
> As you can see, I spend a lot of time thinking on this.

Yeah, I think you need to knock that off.

You seem to be laden with stale ideas, since every person is quite
unique, regardless of gender.

>
> Neo

emmel wrote:
> On 2008-11-03, Neo <what RemoveThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>> emmel wrote:
>>> Thus Neo spoke:
>>>
>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>> On 2008-11-02, Neo <what RemoveThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>> You'll get a girl, don't worry. You are smart after all. And sensitive.
>>>>>> And creative. And InSaNe.
>>>>> As if that's gonna help...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I bet there is a type of girl that would go for all that!
>>>>> I guess, but what are the chances of stumbling over that type of girl
>>>>> (and not instantly messing things up)?
>>>> Do it like I did. Let girls stumble over you! There is no point in being
>>>> married to a girl that is as shy as you are. And believe me, there are
>>>> girls that will date anyone that is new to them. If they stay with you
>>>> afterwards or break your heart is another question. Also, some of these
>>>> girls are cute like hell!
>>> That has worked out just terrific that far. (Not at all.)
>> It took a couple of decades for me. Then again, the previous relation of
>> my girlfriend took over a decade!
>>
>>>> One tip though. When a girl keeps looking at you, look back slightly
>>>> longer than is comfortable to most people. This will hint her that you
>>>> are interested in her. If you look away and turn you are rejecting her.
>>> Well, I could give it a shot.
>> If it is that important to you. You'll be broken, depressed, hurt,
>> angry, sarcastic when things don't work out. I know I was. But then
>> there is The Smiths and Joy Division to listen to
>
> Let's see... I'm not /quite/ broken, depressed at times, hurt now and
> again, angry at the world in general and myself in particular and
> definitely sarcastic. Too late, I'd say.

Sounds like when I was young. Perfectly normal for a youngster!

You won't like a broken heart though. I know I didn't. Took me years to
recover.

I wish I could be less monogamous and more a kind of serial dater. That
said, I have a girlfriend now and hope it will last until we both die of
old age!

Neo
--
Everything that has a beginning has an end.

On 2008-11-04, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
> emmel wrote:
>> On 2008-11-03, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>> emmel wrote:
>>>> Thus Neo spoke:
>>>>
>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>> On 2008-11-02, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>> You'll get a girl, don't worry. You are smart after all. And sensitive.
>>>>>>> And creative. And InSaNe.
>>>>>> As if that's gonna help...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bet there is a type of girl that would go for all that!
>>>>>> I guess, but what are the chances of stumbling over that type of girl
>>>>>> (and not instantly messing things up)?
>>>>> Do it like I did. Let girls stumble over you! There is no point in being
>>>>> married to a girl that is as shy as you are. And believe me, there are
>>>>> girls that will date anyone that is new to them. If they stay with you
>>>>> afterwards or break your heart is another question. Also, some of these
>>>>> girls are cute like hell!
>>>> That has worked out just terrific that far. (Not at all.)
>>> It took a couple of decades for me. Then again, the previous relation of
>>> my girlfriend took over a decade!
>>>
>>>>> One tip though. When a girl keeps looking at you, look back slightly
>>>>> longer than is comfortable to most people. This will hint her that you
>>>>> are interested in her. If you look away and turn you are rejecting her.
>>>> Well, I could give it a shot.
>>> If it is that important to you. You'll be broken, depressed, hurt,
>>> angry, sarcastic when things don't work out. I know I was. But then
>>> there is The Smiths and Joy Division to listen to
>>
>> Let's see... I'm not /quite/ broken, depressed at times, hurt now and
>> again, angry at the world in general and myself in particular and
>> definitely sarcastic. Too late, I'd say.
>
> Sounds like when I was young. Perfectly normal for a youngster!

Only I'm not exactly young anymore.

> You won't like a broken heart though. I know I didn't. Took me years to
> recover.
>
> I wish I could be less monogamous and more a kind of serial dater. That
> said, I have a girlfriend now and hope it will last until we both die of
> old age!

Good luck.
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emmel wrote:
> On 2008-11-04, Red Dragon <agclurker.DeleteThis@lurkerson.net> wrote:
>> emmel wrote:
>>> On 2008-11-02, Red Dragon <agclurker.DeleteThis@lurkerson.net> wrote:
>>>> Neo wrote:
>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>> On 2008-10-25, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2008-10-23, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2008-10-22, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Not really. It's very nice to spend a couple of extra minutes in a
>>>>>>>>>> snug
>>>>>>>>>> warm bed.
>>>>>>>>> I just like it to wake up and realize there is nothing I need to do
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> day (except read AGC maybe).
>>>>>>>> Isn't that kinda depressing?
>>>>>>> I have my girlfriend coming home to look forward to. Or posts in AGC. Or
>>>>>>> the Web 2.0 forums I read. I can even play a computer game! (Sid Meier's
>>>>>>> new Colonization at the moment, but I lost two times so far. Badly).
>>>>>> Well, at least that's something.
>>>>> You'll get a girl, don't worry. You are smart after all. And sensitive.
>>>>> And creative. And InSaNe.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bet there is a type of girl that would go for all that!
>>>>>
>>>> ::coughs::
>>>>
>>>> Oh, there are women out there like that, but the trick is to catch them
>>>> when they don't have a boyfriend already.
>>> Yeah. Exactly my problem.
>> I wish I could help, I really do...
>>
>> I know all too well that being shy makes things seem impossible. I only
>> ended up around people that wanted to date me once I had gotten into a
>> gamer group full of people I could make friends with and get to know,
>> instead of sitting around in my house... On my computer...
>>
>> If you're interested in companionship, making friends certainly helps.
>> Making friends usually starts with shared interests, such as with AGC.
>>
>> Sorry I appear to be the only female left in this particular little
>> circle, but I'd certainly be interested if I were still looking.
>
> Story of my life.

Well, at least women are attracted to you then... Unless you have reason
to believe we are be untruthful?

emmel wrote:
> On 2008-11-04, Neo <what.DeleteThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
<snip>
>> My point really is that for a girl it is okay to meet guys in virtual
>> life. Because they are a very desired minority of players. But for a guy
>> it can be pain and misery. Add to that that guys tend to want multiple
>> partners
>
> Speak for yourself...
>
>> while a girl can turn out tied up to an infant for 4 or 5 years
>
> Five or four years? Make that two decades, minimum.

There was some research. And that is the time a women needs (including
pregnancy) to raise a child. Biologically that is.

That is why relations tend to fail after four years. Women instinct.

Neo
--
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Neo wrote:
> emmel wrote:
>> On 2008-11-04, Neo <what.RemoveThis@thematrix.is> wrote:
> <snip>
>>> My point really is that for a girl it is okay to meet guys in virtual
>>> life. Because they are a very desired minority of players. But for a guy
>>> it can be pain and misery. Add to that that guys tend to want multiple
>>> partners
>>
>> Speak for yourself...
>>
>>> while a girl can turn out tied up to an infant for 4 or 5 years
>>
>> Five or four years? Make that two decades, minimum.
>
> There was some research. And that is the time a women needs (including
> pregnancy) to raise a child. Biologically that is.
>
> That is why relations tend to fail after four years. Women instinct.
>
> Neo

Maybe relationships fail because the guy keeps unconsciously insulting
the woman.

I've heard about this 2-5 year rule... It refers to how long simple
infatuation can last, and that's for both members of a couple. It's been
speculated that this is about as long as a mating pair needs to stay
together for the survival of offspring.

Red Dragon wrote:
> Neo wrote:
>> Red Dragon wrote:
>>> emmel wrote:
>>>> On 2008-11-02, Red Dragon <agclurker RemoveThis @lurkerson.net> wrote:
>>>>> Neo wrote:
>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2008-10-25, Neo <what RemoveThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2008-10-23, Neo <what RemoveThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2008-10-22, Neo <what RemoveThis @thematrix.is> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> emmel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. It's very nice to spend a couple of extra minutes
>>>>>>>>>>> in a snug
>>>>>>>>>>> warm bed.
>>>>>>>>>> I just like it to wake up and realize there is nothing I need
>>>>>>>>>> to do that
>>>>>>>>>> day (except read AGC maybe).
>>>>>>>>> Isn't that kinda depressing?
>>>>>>>> I have my girlfriend coming home to look forward to. Or posts in
>>>>>>>> AGC. Or
>>>>>>>> the Web 2.0 forums I read. I can even play a computer game! (Sid
>>>>>>>> Meier's
>>>>>>>> new Colonization at the moment, but I lost two times so far.
>>>>>>>> Badly).
>>>>>>> Well, at least that's something.
>>>>>> You'll get a girl, don't worry. You are smart after all. And
>>>>>> sensitive.
>>>>>> And creative. And InSaNe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bet there is a type of girl that would go for all that!
>>>>>>
>>>>> ::coughs::
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, there are women out there like that, but the trick is to catch
>>>>> them
>>>>> when they don't have a boyfriend already.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah. Exactly my problem.
>>>
>>> I wish I could help, I really do...
>>>
>>> I know all too well that being shy makes things seem impossible. I only
>>> ended up around people that wanted to date me once I had gotten into a
>>> gamer group full of people I could make friends with and get to know,
>>> instead of sitting around in my house... On my computer...
>>
>> I know of a guy that fell in love in an online game, and got dumped in
>> that very same game by that same girl. Then she started dating someone
>> else in the guild that they shared. I can't imagine how hard that was
>> for him!
>>
>
> I've always thought that in-person interaction must come at some point
> before throwing yourself too completely into such an attachment. That
> said, it's hard to stay level-headed.

I know they had photographs of each other. And one of them was married,
which kind of complicates things.

>>> If you're interested in companionship, making friends certainly helps.
>>> Making friends usually starts with shared interests, such as with AGC.
>>
>> My girlfriend collects Mattel dolls. We don't have that much in common
>> when it comes to hobbies. Maybe for the best, we would fight over who
>> could have a new doll we just found on eBay!
>>
>>> Sorry I appear to be the only female left in this particular little
>>> circle, but I'd certainly be interested if I were still looking.
>>
>> You would travel to Germany to see someone you met on the internet?
>
> I have traveled to Germany, and I'll probably go again at some point.
>
> But I was thinking of it as if AGC were a group that met in-person. I'm
> too shy to meet people one-on-one at first. But it is all about that
> in-person interaction with me.

Maybe you should go visit emmel! Not to start a relationship with him of
course. But as a fan of his stories maybe. He could read you some of
them over a cup of tea and chocolate. As a friend so to speak.

>> I know I nearly travelled to Finland to meet someone, but that someone
>> turned out to be of a gender I have no interest in forming a romantic
>> relationship with.
>>
>> My point really is that for a girl it is okay to meet guys in virtual
>> life. Because they are a very desired minority of players. But for a guy
>> it can be pain and misery. Add to that that guys tend to want multiple
>> partners while a girl can turn out tied up to an infant for 4 or 5 years
>> as a result from a relation. They are a minority /and/ they are less
>> likely to accept a relation from just anyone.
>>
>> As you can see, I spend a lot of time thinking on this.
>
> Yeah, I think you need to knock that off.
>
> You seem to be laden with stale ideas, since every person is quite
> unique, regardless of gender.

I don't want someone that is unique. "I want the one I cannot have" as
Morrissey put it on one of his albums.

He continues: "And it is driving me mad".

Stale for you maybe, but still very real for me. And I feel sorry for my
girlfriend because of it. If you get the one you want, it is all very
easy for you. But love doesn't always work that way.

Neo
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Everything that has a beginning has an end.