{kjd-tier} "Epic" feats? (was: Pathfinder Psionics?)

tussock <scrub.TakeThisOut@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> Tetsubo wrote:
>
>> Are there plans for psionics being added to the Pathfinder system?
>
> Not that I've seen, but they're talking about doing more books
> already. What else is OGL, the divine ranks, epic levels, and modern?
> UA options I suppose, but they're mostly hot swappable anyway.

Now that you've mentioned other bits of the RSRD, I started thinking
about epic feats, divine abilities, and tiered advancement. With my
current thinking on what really high level means, and what I've been
doing with other rule changes in general, I think I might start mining
epic feats for normal high-level stuff. A lot of these don't really
look like they belong up there.

Combat Archery [Epic]
Prereq: Dodge, Mobility, Point Blank Shot
Benefit: You do not incur any attacks of opportunity for firing a bow
when threatened.
Normal: Without this feat, you incur an attack of opportunity from all
opponents who threaten you whenever you use a bow.

Really, how often does this come up? Is it really worth spending a feat
on at that level?

Damage Reduction [Epic]
Prereq: You gain DR 3/-. This does not stack with DR granted by magic
items or nonpermanent magical effects, but it does stack with any
damage reduction granted by permanent magical effects, class
features [such as the Bbn13 feature --kjd], or this feat itself.
Special: You can take this feat multiple times. Each time you take
this feat, your DR increases by 3.

Is this really an epic ability? Class features grant it, lots of ways
to get DR through magic, and I'm looking pretty seriously at the "Armor
as Damage Reduction" rules from UA. With tiered advancement, I'm
thinking of starting it at Heroic tier (level 5- with two or three
points per tier.

Colossal Wild Shape [Epic]
Diminutive Wild Shape [Epic]

Are they really? Does the ability to turn into a whale or a sparrow
*really* warrant an epic feat?

Dire Charge [Epic]
Prereq: Improved Initiative
Benefit: If you charge a foe during the first round of combat (or the
surprise round, if you are allowed to act in it), you can make a
full attack against the opponent charged.
Normal: Without this feat, you can only make a single attack as part
of a charge.

.... 3HD great cats (CR 2 -- leopards) get this (called 'pounce'). Need
I say more here?

Dragon Wild shape [Wild][Epic]

Okay. This one I can accept as Up There. Gaining all extraordinary and
supernatural abilities of a dragon is pretty good.

Energy Resistance [Epic]
Benefit: Choose a type of energy (acid, cold, electricity, fire,
sonic). You gain resistance 10 against that type of energy, or your
existing resistance to that type of energy is increased by 10. This
feat does not stack with energy resistance granted by magic items or
nonpermanent magical effects.
Special: You can take this feat multiple times. If the same type of
energy is chosen, the effects stack.

Given that I have ways to get better resistance earlier, and even
immunity, this is a little weak.

Epic Fortitude
Benefit: You get a +4 bonus on al Fortitude saving throws.

*Yawn*. Champion (13-16) ability, with Legendary giving +5.


I'm bored with this. I think I might go through and strike anything
that isn't already there and summarize *what's left* in my notes.
There's some good stuff, but I think epic will fit pretty well into my
Legendary tier.

Which may mean that I can crack open the divine salient abilities for
the people past 20th level. Legendary character are approaching the
power of demigods, after Legendary they might *be* demigods.

This suits me rather nicely, actually. I might need to widen the tiers
after Legendary, but then I might not -- qualitative differences between
the abilities at each tier might be enough.

Hmm. 'demigod', 'lesser god', 'intermediate god', 'greater god'.
That's only four tiers. It might be worth sliding 'Epic' tier back in
between Legendary and Demigod, to cover the transition.


Keith
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Keith Davies wrote:


>
>
> Thanks for reminding me of that. I've also broken out Mongoose' _Book
> of Classic Play: Immortals_, there's some good stuff in there.
>
>
> Keith

I've never heard of this before now. Is it any good? Is it still available?

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